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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 18, 2014 7:59:23 GMT
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Leadbitter-----Lockyer------McChrystal----Brown
Gosling-------Mansell-------Monkhouse-----Martin
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 18, 2014 8:04:27 GMT
Isn't Lockyer out for 2-4 weeks, or was that incorrect info? Anyway why drop Parkes why McM seems to be poor lately?
Apart from that the team picks itself unless DC finally brings in another striker.
Apart from Clarke & Trotman we might as well forgot naming subs!
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 18, 2014 8:12:50 GMT
If Lockyer is out for a few games, as rumoured on here:
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_______Trotman_McChrystal_Parkes
Leadbitter________________________Brown
_____________Mansell__Clarke_____________
__________________Gosling________________
_______________Taylor___Brunt____________
I know it seems like a waste not using Martin having waited for him for so long, but I just think we should be solid and try to stop conceding 2 goals a game.
Martin could even play LWB over Brown? He said in his signing interview that he's played LB a few times in his career, and he would probably offer more in an attacking sense than Brown from that position?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 18, 2014 8:22:38 GMT
Forgot about Trotman. Would probably play him then. WeAreTheGas I would possibly play your team but go more attacking with Monkhouse instead of Clarke in the middle.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 18, 2014 8:42:52 GMT
Isn't Lockyer out for 2-4 weeks, or was that incorrect info? Anyway why drop Parkes why McM seems to be poor lately? Apart from that the team picks itself unless DC finally brings in another striker. Apart from Clarke & Trotman we might as well forgot naming subs! Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Parkes was shocking Saturday too. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 18, 2014 8:45:55 GMT
Isn't Lockyer out for 2-4 weeks, or was that incorrect info? Anyway why drop Parkes why McM seems to be poor lately? Apart from that the team picks itself unless DC finally brings in another striker. Apart from Clarke & Trotman we might as well forgot naming subs! Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Parkes was shocking Saturday too. Exactly and McChrystal is captain after all which sways towards me picking him. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 18, 2014 8:46:24 GMT
---------------------Mildenhall----------------- Leadbitter-----Lockyer------McChrystal----Brown Gosling-------Mansell-------Monkhouse-----Martin --------------Taylor-----------Brunt------------- We looked so poor with 442 on Saturday, I'd much rather revert to the system vs Grimsby. Also I think Leadbitter is a far better wing back than full back. |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 18, 2014 8:56:08 GMT
If Lockyer is out for a few games, as rumoured on here: ________________Mildenhall________________ _______Trotman_McChrystal_Parkes Leadbitter________________________Brown _____________Mansell__Clarke_____________ __________________Gosling________________ _______________Taylor___Brunt____________ I know it seems like a waste not using Martin having waited for him for so long, but I just think we should be solid and try to stop conceding 2 goals a game. Martin could even play LWB over Brown? He said in his signing interview that he's played LB a few times in his career, and he would probably offer more in an attacking sense than Brown from that position? Exactly this with your second option of Martin over Brown for the wing back position. Brown is a good LB at this level but doesn't provide the wide attacking qualities that a wing back needs to. Martin has more pace too to counter any counter attacks as although we have been awful, I expect Telford to come to come to The Mem and set up not to be beaten and try to hit us on the counter. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 18, 2014 8:59:16 GMT
If Lockyer is out for a few games, as rumoured on here: ________________Mildenhall________________ _______Trotman_McChrystal_Parkes Leadbitter________________________Brown _____________Mansell__Clarke_____________ __________________Gosling________________ _______________Taylor___Brunt____________ I know it seems like a waste not using Martin having waited for him for so long, but I just think we should be solid and try to stop conceding 2 goals a game. Martin could even play LWB over Brown? He said in his signing interview that he's played LB a few times in his career, and he would probably offer more in an attacking sense than Brown from that position? Exactly this with your second option of Martin over Brown for the wing back position. Brown is a good LB at this level but doesn't provide the wide attacking qualities that a wing back needs to. Martin has more pace too to counter any counter attacks as although we have been awful, I expect Telford to come to come to The Mem and set up not to be beaten and try to hit us on the counter. Yeah maybe but how about Monkhouse instead of Clarke? Clakre isn't good enough for me. I know it would be attacking but I would rather see us go for it and lose than play crap again and draw or lose by the odd goal. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 18, 2014 9:34:31 GMT
I would use the same system used against Grimsby. A clean sheet should be the aim and anything after that is a bonus. We have been terrible so far and suddenly expecting us to turn it around and thump someone is unrealistic. We desperately need something to build on because this is relegation form currently. But for a glaring miss by Grimsby's John-Lewis we would have 0 points.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 18, 2014 9:59:57 GMT
IMO got to play the BEST players and get them organised and playing together. Brunt,McCrystal and Clarke are not good enough at the present time and I think over the longer period 4-4-2 is the way forward so Clarke needs to get the players organised within that formation. Lockyer is a big loss because he is the only centre back with any pace. McCrystal being captain is not a reason for keeping him in the side as he is not looking like a Captain on the pitch rather like a fish out of water.
Clarke must spend his time getting the team to move about the pitch as an organised unit and to ensure NO opponent picks up the ball in acres of space. Opponents are being allowed to drop off players and then being left unmarked with time on the ball and in that situation even poor players like most of Altringhams can and did cause damage.
For me the team saturday assuming Lockyer is not available would be.
Mildenhall
Leadbitter Trotman Parkes Brown
Gosling Mansell (Capt) Monkhouse Martin
Taylor White (or new striker)
The defence needs to move up and MARK opponents rather than stand like statues waiting for their opponent to run at them. WE need to compact the game thereby giving our midfield four a chance to get on the ball.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 18, 2014 10:52:30 GMT
If he plays 442 again then I absolutely despair.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 10:59:08 GMT
i just want dc to use one formation and keep mostly the same team for several games,,,, at the moment the chopping and changing of formations and players is causing confusion.
i wouldnt play brunt myself
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 18, 2014 11:11:06 GMT
If he plays 442 again then I absolutely despair. Trained all pre season with 532, used it one game and did ok, dropped it and now we're in the sh**. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 18, 2014 11:33:13 GMT
If he plays 442 again then I absolutely despair. Trained all pre season with 532, used it one game and did ok, dropped it and now we're in the sh*t. I don't like us playing 4-4-2 at all - mainly because I don't rate two of our CM's highly enough to think they'd make a competent pairing. We need 3 CM's playing to make us competitive in there, IMO. I also think it suits the CB's we have at the club (particularly McChrystal & Parkes) playing in a 3 as opposed to a 2. The main problem I see with us playing 5-3-2 (as well as creativity) is that most teams will come to the Mem, put 5 in midfield and 1 upfront, and 2 of our CB's will be unoccupied for large parts of the game. I have no doubt that we'd keep more clean sheets playing in this way, but it could be a bit of a waste when we could go with 2 CB's and have another player higher up the pitch looking to hurt the opposition? I think the key is to make sure the wingbacks pretty much play as wingers as part of the midfield when we face this sort of opposition, and don't spend too much time in the fullback positions. _____________Mildenhall________ ____Lockyer__McChrytsal__Parkes Leadbitter__Mansell__Sinclair__Brown/Martin _______________Gosling ____________Taylor__Brunt |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 18, 2014 11:35:30 GMT
Trained all pre season with 532, used it one game and did ok, dropped it and now we're in the sh*t. I don't like us playing 4-4-2 at all - mainly because I don't rate two of our CM's highly enough to think they'd make a competent pairing. We need 3 CM's playing to make us competitive in there, IMO. I also think it suits the CB's we have at the club (particularly McChrystal & Parkes) playing in a 3 as opposed to a 2. The main problem I see with us playing 5-3-2 (as well as creativity) is that most teams will come to the Mem, put 5 in midfield and 1 upfront, and 2 of our CB's will be unoccupied for large parts of the game. I have no doubt that we'd keep more clean sheets playing in this way, but it could be a bit of a waste when we could go with 2 CB's and have another player higher up the pitch looking to hurt the opposition? I think the key is to make sure the wingbacks pretty much play as wingers as part of the midfield when we face this sort of opposition, and don't spend too much time in the fullback positions. _____________Mildenhall________ ____Lockyer__McChrytsal__Parkes Leadbitter__Mansell__Sinclair__Brown/Martin _______________Gosling ____________Taylor__Brunt Sinclair suspended and Lockyer probably out injured. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 18, 2014 11:36:20 GMT
Trained all pre season with 532, used it one game and did ok, dropped it and now we're in the sh*t. I don't like us playing 4-4-2 at all - mainly because I don't rate two of our CM's highly enough to think they'd make a competent pairing. We need 3 CM's playing to make us competitive in there, IMO. I also think it suits the CB's we have at the club (particularly McChrystal & Parkes) playing in a 3 as opposed to a 2. The main problem I see with us playing 5-3-2 (as well as creativity) is that most teams will come to the Mem, put 5 in midfield and 1 upfront, and 2 of our CB's will be unoccupied for large parts of the game. I have no doubt that we'd keep more clean sheets playing in this way, but it could be a bit of a waste when we could go with 2 CB's and have another player higher up the pitch looking to hurt the opposition? I think the key is to make sure the wingbacks pretty much play as wingers as part of the midfield when we face this sort of opposition, and don't spend too much time in the fullback positions. _____________Mildenhall________ ____Lockyer__McChrytsal__Parkes Leadbitter__Mansell__Sinclair__Brown/Martin _______________Gosling ____________Taylor__Brunt We had the same conversation last season regarding our dislikes for 442. It was clear on Saturday that we had no midfield and it meant that the two CBs were constantly under pressure and on the back foot. |
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Post by Centenary Gas on Aug 18, 2014 11:38:39 GMT
Is it possible McCrystal will ever do anything but hoof it long?
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 18, 2014 11:38:42 GMT
I don't like us playing 4-4-2 at all - mainly because I don't rate two of our CM's highly enough to think they'd make a competent pairing. We need 3 CM's playing to make us competitive in there, IMO. I also think it suits the CB's we have at the club (particularly McChrystal & Parkes) playing in a 3 as opposed to a 2. The main problem I see with us playing 5-3-2 (as well as creativity) is that most teams will come to the Mem, put 5 in midfield and 1 upfront, and 2 of our CB's will be unoccupied for large parts of the game. I have no doubt that we'd keep more clean sheets playing in this way, but it could be a bit of a waste when we could go with 2 CB's and have another player higher up the pitch looking to hurt the opposition? I think the key is to make sure the wingbacks pretty much play as wingers as part of the midfield when we face this sort of opposition, and don't spend too much time in the fullback positions. _____________Mildenhall________ ____Lockyer__McChrytsal__Parkes Leadbitter__Mansell__Sinclair__Brown/Martin _______________Gosling ____________Taylor__Brunt Sinclair suspended and Lockyer probably out injured. Apologies, wasn't very clear. That isn't my suggested team for Saturday, but for future games against opposition that will 'sit in' against us. |
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 18, 2014 11:40:10 GMT
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Leadbitter-----Parkes------McChrystal----Brown
------------------Mansell-------Clarke-------------------
Gosling-----------------Taylor-------------------Martin
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