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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 20, 2017 19:35:41 GMT
Nope, Harrison is ranked 33 for effectiveness. James is 32 In this case its about who has negatively impacted the team the most. James played a lot less minutes and games than Harrison so had less of a (negative) impact. Also, these aren't 'proper' stats anyway as they're all based off of opinions. Yeah I get that, but I was still suprised to see James above Ellis.
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Post by rambo on May 20, 2017 23:31:15 GMT
Excellent work as always.
With regards to the effectiveness score, I think it's worth noting that attacking players will struggle to do well here compared to defensive players. Look at bodin for example.
If an attacker scores highly, chances are we scored goals. Goals = good result = higher team average. So effectiveness won't be that high.
Defeats or low scoring games will more likely see low team averages but defenders can shine.
I imagine Harrison will have scored a 9/10 when he bagged 4 goals... but I would guess the team did too!
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Post by beaver132 on May 21, 2017 9:34:51 GMT
In this case its about who has negatively impacted the team the most. James played a lot less minutes and games than Harrison so had less of a (negative) impact. Also, these aren't 'proper' stats anyway as they're all based off of opinions. Yeah I get that, but I was still suprised to see James above Ellis. It's all about perception... and a shining example of why clubs employ performance analysts. If it was left to human observation and perception, we'd often miss those that contribute more, or have a positive impact.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on May 21, 2017 9:40:30 GMT
That's Bob Harris. Ellis is above LJ. Nope, Harrison is ranked 33 for effectiveness. James is 32 I'll see the optician tomorrow.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 21, 2017 10:23:07 GMT
Some real oddities when you look back on those scores, as how did Boateng & Roos get such high averages when the perception looking back is they are both poor loan signings, plus Monty seems unlucky to be released with Moore v. lucky he signed a two year contract last summer.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2017 20:23:26 GMT
Some real oddities when you look back on those scores, as how did Boateng & Roos get such high averages when the perception looking back is they are both poor loan signings, plus Monty seems unlucky to be released with Moore v. lucky he signed a two year contract last summer. Think it shows how perception and reality are never the same..... If I remember rightly both Roos and Boateng started their loans brightly with strong scores but then towards the end of their time with us (and probably why it was the end of their time with us) they had some shockers and it's the last few games they played with us that we remember and shapes our perception of their loans overall.... Similar to Bodin who started poorly but after Taylor's departure (and maybe a little before) really found his feet, got his full fitness and shone (and reminded us what a fantastic player he is).....
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on May 22, 2017 15:57:22 GMT
Some real oddities when you look back on those scores, as how did Boateng & Roos get such high averages when the perception looking back is they are both poor loan signings, plus Monty seems unlucky to be released with Moore v. lucky he signed a two year contract last summer. Roos scored very positively in his first few games and it's only really the Peterborough match where his rating started to take a hit. He was poor at home to Charlton and away to Chesterfield (but most players were) before he was dropped before the horror shows at Shrewsbury and Charlton. Boateng had both good games and bad games but the good outweighed the bad. He was also lucky that in he tended to be subbed early in his bad games (Walsall H, MK Dons H, Shrewsbury A). The fact he never completed a 90 minutes for Rovers definitely plays on people's overall perceptions of him, yet won't be reflected on a game-by-game analysis. Montano probably benefited from an interesting stat that I'll expand on in another post at some point. Taking minutes played in a win or draw into account, then we averaged more points per game with Montano than any other player, 2.04. This was partly because of DC's preference to rotate Montano and Moore home and away. 72% of Montano's game time came at the Mem, compared to 40% of Moore's. Only Leadbitter (64% at home) had a more extreme proportion.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on May 22, 2017 16:02:10 GMT
Excellent work as always. With regards to the effectiveness score, I think it's worth noting that attacking players will struggle to do well here compared to defensive players. Look at bodin for example. If an attacker scores highly, chances are we scored goals. Goals = good result = higher team average. So effectiveness won't be that high. Defeats or low scoring games will more likely see low team averages but defenders can shine. I imagine Harrison will have scored a 9/10 when he bagged 4 goals... but I would guess the team did too! Spot on. Even before he left Taylor was never near the top of the season averages at any point in his two and a half years. There is almost a barrier where a striker can't score more than a 6 if they haven't scored. Harrison scored 9.6 against Northampton, but somehow Puddy (who from what I remember did nothing) got a 6.6 that day and Taylor (because he didn't score) a 6.5.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on May 22, 2017 16:32:40 GMT
Following on from the player ratings, here are the average poster ratings for this season. For reference, the average rating was 6.36, compared to 6.52 in 15/16 and 6.19 in 14/15. In the Overrate column is the player who the poster rated most positively compared to the average. Essentially, it is who the player valued more than the general consensus did. In the Underrate column is the reverse, so the player the poster was harsher to than most people. This is all a bit of fun and not to be taken too seriously but it's interesting to look at everyone's opinions. It turns out I was a Luke James apologist. *Players are only included if they played more than 500 minutes.
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Post by markczgas on May 22, 2017 16:38:11 GMT
It's not fun. I'm hurt by that, so I won't be making 22 player ratings next season
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Post by markczgas on May 22, 2017 16:40:57 GMT
So Biggsy has got Blue-tinted specs on all the time and Ipgas is the most pessimistic ( make a note boys)
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on May 22, 2017 16:47:47 GMT
It's not fun. I'm hurt by that, so I won't be making 22 player ratings next season I agree, there's nothing funny about you rating Taylor so highly. I'm sure I can replace your ratings with tbone's for next season- he'll give me the unbiased view.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 18:08:50 GMT
Well at least I was the only poster to underate the Snake. Told you all he was sh**e and where did he end up?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 22, 2017 18:38:33 GMT
I stand by my not rating James.
Useless fecker
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 22, 2017 19:54:04 GMT
Fair play, I love these stats. Cracking work!
Not surprised by me overrating James and underrating Clarke-Salter. James was never that bad but didn't have many great games either but he was regularly getting decent scores from me. Clarke-Salter had at least 3 games where he was shocking and I scored him really low.
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Post by biggsy on May 23, 2017 15:06:13 GMT
So Biggsy has got Blue-tinted specs on all the time and Ipgas is the most pessimistic ( make a note boys) Yep,that sums me up, generous and optimistic, always see the the best in people, I'm just amazing!!
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