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Post by singupgas on Nov 22, 2016 22:35:12 GMT
This season was all about seeing it out and staying up i believe. All the players from last year were promised contracts publicly if we were promoted, that was honoured, clearly we are hit and miss and some of players are struggling at this level.
One thing i would like DC to do is though is pick what is our strongest 11 on player ability and see how it goes... He is far too loyal to some players and rotation is all about keeping players happy, but not necessarily going to give us any consistency.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:38:08 GMT
Without it sounding silly (considering we were talking of the playoffs less than a month ago), if we don't stop shipping pathetic goals we will find ourselves at the wrong end of the table very quickly. We were conceding goals but still winning, though now the goals seem to have dried up yet we are still conceding. I think Lockyer needs to be dropped as he is really struggling, however with JCS going off injured, I can't see how it would work. Here's hoping a return to winning ways on Saturday. I hate this bloody losing thing! Forgot what it felt like!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:41:49 GMT
Without it sounding silly (considering we were talking of the playoffs less than a month ago), if we don't stop shipping pathetic goals we will find ourselves at the wrong end of the table very quickly. We were conceding goals but still winning, though now the goals seem to have dried up yet we are still conceding. I think Lockyer needs to be dropped as he is really struggling, however with JCS going off injured, I can't see how it would work. Here's hoping a return to winning ways on Saturday. I hate this bloody losing thing! Forgot what it felt like! This is what the last few seasons have done, created extremes. We're either going up or we're plum relegation candidates. Probably not got the quality/consistency to break the top 6 at the moment, but definitely not relegation candidates either. Just going through a bad spell, still fancy us as a top half/top 10 side
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 22, 2016 22:44:04 GMT
Because you asked me if I was joking when I said tinkering has never been succesful. I thought you may have some examples. DC didn't really tinker in The Conference because we didn't have the squad to do it. Last season in League 2 our good form coincided when DC stopped tinkering, our early season form when DC was making lots of changes was poor, we had a similar result to tonights when we got battered at home by Newport, after that DC started playing a settled side week in, week out. So I would argue that DC hasn't been succesful tinkering, his and our success has came when he hasn't. Well, you're just defining tinkering as what happens when we lose, really, aren't you? DC got loads of stick for the changes we made in the run-in last season when we didn't win (Stevenage anyone?). It just seemed like we made fewer changes coz we went on a good run and when we win no one mentions it. I agree he makes more changes now, than he did, probably as you say, coz of squad sizes, but he has always liked to change things around and he was making changes when we were winning in this league (but no one complains then for some reason), and similar changes now we've lost a few. It's not exactly evidence that it doesn't work. It seems to me to be evidence it works about the same. Apart from the fact people have been complaining all season, winning and losing, about the tinkering. Just go back and read about it. The only difference is people were complaining and saying fair enough he keeps getting the results.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 22, 2016 22:44:58 GMT
has anyone got any pictures of tombstones and coffins ??
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Post by Blackbeard on Nov 22, 2016 22:48:03 GMT
This was never going to be a cakewalk and to reach 5th by mid Nov flattered to deceive
Look around the squad we have and tell me if we really have the depth of quality to antagonise Scunthorpe and Sheffield?
We will have spells like this and this isn't a league we can relax in
Chesterfield won away tonight, you can bet they will relish us heading there on sat with this form
Get behind the team and let's show them we have the character to support them
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Post by yategas78 on Nov 22, 2016 22:48:45 GMT
Hopefully we got enough about us to stay up!
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Post by markczgas on Nov 22, 2016 22:48:58 GMT
IMO Roos has a lot to answer for. I gave him the benefit of the doubt after those few blunders at the start of the season but now I think he's just not good enough. Their keeper tonight made some great saves and I can't recall Roos making a single one - 7 shots 5 goals says it all! The first goal he seemed to stick his hands out but then pull them away as if it was going out for a corner, the third goal he saved the header but somehow the ball still ended up in the net, and his kicking was appalling. Yet again we've found ourselves in the position where he's undroppable because we have no back up. Granted our defence isn't quite good enough (due to the constant changes) so Roos can't take all the blame but gifting goals regularly is going to have a huge impact on us at the end of the season. they had only 5 shots on target - all goals. They certainly put them away but were not the best team at The Mem this season - everything broke for them - deflected goals, Taylor missing great chances and Salty going off injured - a slightly freak result - I'm sure many would say at HT a 1 -1 score was a fair reflection and not 0 - 2. Good luck to them, let's see if we can grind out a result on Saturday - even a draw would be good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:51:49 GMT
James Clarke has been missed in the three. Roos is average. Too many players played badly tonight. That number 7 for CAFC was impressive!
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Post by mjhgas on Nov 22, 2016 22:52:33 GMT
Poor tonight, but I'm going to blame the front four! They had an abysmal first half and set the tone!
Got to start playing a settled team.
What a night to take three Charlton fans to the game!
Won't be sitting in the new tent stand again!
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Post by gregsy on Nov 22, 2016 22:53:12 GMT
Even Chesterfield won tonight so they will be up for it on Saturday I can see us well in the bottom half by Christmas but having said that didn't really didn't expect anything else we were always gonna struggle in this League Wouldn't want you in the trenches with me. yeah, like every dude on here aspires to hang around in a trench with ggmi....
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Post by axegas on Nov 22, 2016 22:54:13 GMT
Without it sounding silly (considering we were talking of the playoffs less than a month ago), if we don't stop shipping pathetic goals we will find ourselves at the wrong end of the table very quickly. We were conceding goals but still winning, though now the goals seem to have dried up yet we are still conceding. I think Lockyer needs to be dropped as he is really struggling, however with JCS going off injured, I can't see how it would work. Here's hoping a return to winning ways on Saturday. I hate this bloody losing thing! Forgot what it felt like! With James Clarke injured as well as JCS, we don't have much choice in playing Lockyer. Wasn't there tonight but Lockyers performance at the weekend was brilliant. What is key now is that we come back with a really solid performance against Chesterfield, if we don't then it is time to get worried. Sadly with results going against us and playoffs looking less likely, attendances will fall unless we turn it around. Not panicking just yet though. KTF
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:56:59 GMT
Without it sounding silly (considering we were talking of the playoffs less than a month ago), if we don't stop shipping pathetic goals we will find ourselves at the wrong end of the table very quickly. We were conceding goals but still winning, though now the goals seem to have dried up yet we are still conceding. I think Lockyer needs to be dropped as he is really struggling, however with JCS going off injured, I can't see how it would work. Here's hoping a return to winning ways on Saturday. I hate this bloody losing thing! Forgot what it felt like! This is what the last few seasons have done, created extremes. We're either going up or we're plum relegation candidates. Probably not got the quality/consistency to break the top 6 at the moment, but definitely not relegation candidates either. Just going through a bad spell, still fancy us as a top half/top 10 side I'm not saying we are relegation candidates. We've been shipping goals all season and as soon as our goals dry up we get smashed twice. Obviously, that can easily see us at the wrong end of the table if it were to continue.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 22, 2016 22:59:02 GMT
Everyone needs to calm down a little, we gifted them the first 2 goals imo did roos make a save first half? There keeper made 3-4 class saves first half. My questions are, why doesn't lines run at the defence more? When he does it causes the other team to panic and reorganise. Why does Harrison get subbed on instead of Easter? Personal opinion I know but Easter has been there and done it where else Harrison is a conference/league 2 player at best. Gaffers was the best player on that pitch tonight who gave 100% till the end. These games happen now onto the next utg Gaffney showed his worth tonight, played for the shirt even after being taken down for the penalty and carrying an injury. He seems to be getting better and better and I'm sure the goals will start coming for him soon - if it wasn't for their keeper fouling him he'd have got one tonight. Did not understand Sinclair being subbed off - I'm not a fan but he was winning me around tonight with some fantastic tackles. Sinclair and Gaffers were the only players in my book who deserved any form of applause tonight, and Clarke-Salter given the circumstances. Was furious with Harrison wasting that chance but all a bit futile anyway, stuff like that shows why he is a waste of a substitution and position on the bench. Not good enough! Why are we not giving Luke James a go? The others I despair - I don't feel any of them are bad players who played tonight (Harrison aside) but there is something that is really not working. I don't like our lump it on a long ball style, they're good footballers on the deck and too short to lump it to. Colkett seems to be on a bad patch - perhaps owing to his inexperience.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 22, 2016 22:59:11 GMT
This was never going to be a cakewalk and to reach 5th by mid Nov flattered to deceive Look around the squad we have and tell me if we really have the depth of quality to antagonise Scunthorpe and Sheffield? We will have spells like this and this isn't a league we can relax in Chesterfield won away tonight, you can bet they will relish us heading there on sat with this form Get behind the team and let's show them we have the character to support them We started very well and people got carried away, lose track of the number of people who have said we've got a better bench than nearly any other club in the division. So certainly a lot of people believed we had the quality. I'm happy with mid table without any flirtation with relegation always thought we have got off to a flyer.
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Post by lmgas on Nov 22, 2016 23:06:10 GMT
DC isn't over loyal, mansell and mccrystal haven't had a look in.
Roos is not good enough.
2 results largely affected by having to play a large chunk with 10 men.
Boys have generally been excellent this year.
Yes we need to be more clinical in front of goal, but we've still scored a good number.
Yes, we also need to sure up the defence, but I think getting a solid keeper would make the world of difference.
We shouldn't be moaning so much, always disappointing to be on the wrong end of such a scoreline, but get some perspective on the giant strides we have made, and most importantly, can continue to make now we have the backing of Wael.
Utg
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Post by Blackbeard on Nov 22, 2016 23:12:16 GMT
I'm bored with Harrison coming on, bored of Harrison jumping like a kangaroo and skying the ball into orbit, bored of Harrisons poor touches, bored of Harrisons dismal work rate and bored with the idea he's a L1 quality striker
Bored bored bored
He contributed last season but I'm sorry this season , he's either not got it, lost it, never gonna have it or doesn't want to use it
Whichever it is he should not be on the bench and we should be making more of Bodin and maybe James who hasn't had any sort of decent game time to show what he can do as an alternative to Gaffney, who for me, worked his balls off tonight (like is usual) but will tire being a big guy prepared to get the ugly stuff done to make Taylor look shiny
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 22, 2016 23:13:55 GMT
This was never going to be a cakewalk and to reach 5th by mid Nov flattered to deceive Look around the squad we have and tell me if we really have the depth of quality to antagonise Scunthorpe and Sheffield? We will have spells like this and this isn't a league we can relax in Chesterfield won away tonight, you can bet they will relish us heading there on sat with this form Get behind the team and let's show them we have the character to support them I doubt we had a better squad than Pompey last season but sometimes the sum of the parts is better than the parts itself.
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Post by LJG on Nov 22, 2016 23:22:29 GMT
Jeeezus criest! Talking about dropping Lockyer is just outright batshit. Our best player in two very poor games and a prospect with quality clearly above our current level.
Low point for me was Byron Moore with the ball at his feet looking at the forwards and raising his hands in a shrug. Brought back bad memories of Carl Regan.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 22, 2016 23:24:12 GMT
I'm bored with Harrison coming on, bored of Harrison jumping like a kangaroo and skying the ball into orbit, bored of Harrisons poor touches, bored of Harrisons dismal work rate and bored with the idea he's a L1 quality striker Bored bored bored He contributed last season but I'm sorry this season , he's either not got it, lost it, never gonna have it or doesn't want to use it Whichever it is he should not be on the bench and we should be making more of Bodin and maybe James who hasn't had any sort of decent game time to show what he can do as an alternative to Gaffney, who for me, worked his balls off tonight (like is usual) but will tire being a big guy prepared to get the ugly stuff done to make Taylor look shiny Don't forget flopping around on the deck like a suffocating fish after he's tripped over his own feet looking for a free kick or penalty which will never come. On loan at Hartlepool last season seemed about right, why is he back in the team at a higher level?
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