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Post by markczgas on Dec 30, 2016 14:00:16 GMT
Hello Gasheads,
so we have reached the half-way mark in the season - 23 games and 33 points.
If we replicate that in the next 23 then we will get 66 points - so likely to miss out on the play-offs.
How do you think things will go for us till the end of the season ?
In my view, I think we'll struggle to get over 60 without replacements - a must for me is a keeper and a CB to make us harder to score against.
If we really go for it (a play-off place) - then we need a better finisher to partner Taylor and an experienced RB. Gaffney and Leadbitter are making good progress but they are not consistent enough yet to play every game for us.
What do you think ? How many points will we get ?
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Post by baggins on Dec 30, 2016 14:10:19 GMT
Hello Gasheads, so we have reached the half-way mark in the season - 23 games and 33 points. If we replicate that in the next 23 then we will get 66 points - so likely to miss out on the play-offs. How do you think things will go for us till the end of the season ? In my view, I think we'll struggle to get over 60 without replacements - a must for me is a keeper and a CB to make us harder to score against. If we really go for it (a play-off place) - then we need a better finisher to partner Taylor and an experienced RB. Gaffney and Leadbitter are making good progress but they are not consistent enough yet to play every game for us. What do you think ? How many points will we get ? Not sure on points, but I think we'll give the playoffs a damned good run for its money.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 30, 2016 14:17:27 GMT
"I think we'll struggle to get over 60 without replacements" It seems fairly clear DC intends bringing in replacements it'll be interesting to see if they are an improvement on what we already have or not.
If Mansel is not considered up to the job then I feel a partner for Lines is the biggest gap to fill plus a replacement for Roos assuming he returns to Derby in January, but it's odd that he kept present Dons keeper out of the side last season!
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Post by curlywurly on Dec 30, 2016 14:20:43 GMT
By comparison, we had 37 points at this stage last season and 41 points after 23 games in the Conference season. So only a little behind our progress in what were two impressive seasons.
I agree with Baggins that we will have a good shot at the play offs.
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Post by socrates on Dec 30, 2016 14:49:47 GMT
I think that if we use 4-4-2 as our base formation then we will finish top half maybe even as high as 5-th. If we play the diamond or 3-5-2 a lot we'll finish mid table - bottom half but I'm confident we'll stay up.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 30, 2016 14:56:56 GMT
I think that if we use 4-4-2 as our base formation then we will finish top half maybe even as high as 5-th. If we play the diamond or 3-5-2 a lot we'll finish mid table - bottom half but I'm confident we'll stay up. ok - fair point - and probably many will agree with you. Do you think we can get 5th with that formation and no additions ?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 30, 2016 15:06:28 GMT
I think we will surprise people.
The first half of this season we have not played that well TBH and i think with a small improvement in the team come Jan i would hope we could climb into the promised land of the playoffs
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 15:15:52 GMT
I think we will pick up another 23 wins, seeing us finish on 102 points.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Dec 30, 2016 15:20:38 GMT
Based on our expenditure DC have done a remarkable job. So the mid term assessment is very very good. The question now is : Will Wael give DC a budget to push for a top 6 place . We hear our budget is in the bottom 8. We hear DC wants to push for a top 6 place. What does this mean ? How much do teams like Bradford Peterboro Millwall spend ?. What about the lack of progress on the UWE ? Will this mean 'maintaining' rather than 'progressing' . If Wael spent big in the next 30 days would we have the structure to back this up ?. What if the impossible happened and we sneaked into the championship. I know we keep saying it but the 'transfer window' will reveal a little of the intentions of our club. It may not answer our questions fully but will give a big indication to any progress on and off the field in the next 6 months..
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 30, 2016 15:25:03 GMT
what ever happens let it not happen on the last day of the season again my poor ticker cant stand too many more last day eruptions
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 30, 2016 15:26:44 GMT
Based on our expenditure DC have done a remarkable job. So the mid term assessment is very very good. The question now is : Will Wael give DC a budget to push for a top 6 place . We hear our budget is in the bottom 8. We hear DC wants to push for a top 6 place. What does this mean ? How much do teams like Bradford Peterboro Millwall spend ?. What about the lack of progress on the UWE ? Will this mean 'maintaining' rather than 'progressing' . If Wael spent big in the next 30 days would we have the structure to back this up ?. What if the impossible happened and we sneaked into the championship. I know we keep saying it but the 'transfer window' will reveal a little of the intentions of our club. It may not answer our questions fully but will give a big indication to any progress on and off the field in the next 6 months.. With the projected costs of the new academy in excess of £1m startup it will indeed be interesting to see if any money is pumped into the team.
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Post by socrates on Dec 30, 2016 15:51:43 GMT
I think that if we use 4-4-2 as our base formation then we will finish top half maybe even as high as 5-th. If we play the diamond or 3-5-2 a lot we'll finish mid table - bottom half but I'm confident we'll stay up. ok - fair point - and probably many will agree with you. Do you think we can get 5th with that formation and no additions ? No I think we need to bring an experienced keeper of league 1 standard in we need another holding midfielder to rotate or replace Olly Clarke and we could do with another winger to challenge Monty and Bodin. If we do all those and play 4-4-2 the majority of games I think we'll finish top 6.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 15:51:58 GMT
Based on our expenditure DC have done a remarkable job. So the mid term assessment is very very good. The question now is : Will Wael give DC a budget to push for a top 6 place . We hear our budget is in the bottom 8. We hear DC wants to push for a top 6 place. What does this mean ? How much do teams like Bradford Peterboro Millwall spend ?. What about the lack of progress on the UWE ? Will this mean 'maintaining' rather than 'progressing' . If Wael spent big in the next 30 days would we have the structure to back this up ?. What if the impossible happened and we sneaked into the championship. I know we keep saying it but the 'transfer window' will reveal a little of the intentions of our club. It may not answer our questions fully but will give a big indication to any progress on and off the field in the next 6 months.. With the projected costs of the new academy in excess of £1m startup it will indeed be interesting to see if any money is pumped into the team.
The last time we took our eye off the playing side of things we ended up in the conference. Hopefully there will more of a balance now. I'm not too fussed about promotion anyway. As long we aren't relegated then that will do until the stadium is sorted out one way or another. That in itself shame as promotion is there for the taking this season and there aren't many stand out performers in L1. As we are, we would get pumped every week in the championship so as long as we are playing decent entertaining stuff then ill be happy.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 30, 2016 16:10:17 GMT
ok - fair point - and probably many will agree with you. Do you think we can get 5th with that formation and no additions ? No I think we need to bring an experienced keeper of league 1 standard in we need another holding midfielder to rotate or replace Olly Clarke and we could do with another winger to challenge Monty and Bodin. If we do all those and play 4-4-2 the majority of games I think we'll finish top 6. What about Sinclair to rotate with Olly ?
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Post by markczgas on Dec 30, 2016 16:12:46 GMT
With the projected costs of the new academy in excess of £1m startup it will indeed be interesting to see if any money is pumped into the team.
The last time we took our eye off the playing side of things we ended up in the conference. Hopefully there will more of a balance now. I'm not too fussed about promotion anyway. As long we aren't relegated then that will do until the stadium is sorted out one way or another. That in itself shame as promotion is there for the taking this season and there aren't many stand out performers in L1. As we are, we would get pumped every week in the championship so as long as we are playing decent entertaining stuff then ill be happy.
A bit surprised at that comment with Scunny, Sheff U and Bolton getting so many points. Only 2 go up in the autos too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 16:17:52 GMT
I don't want is to get in the playoffs. Every year it's relegation or promotion drama. This time I'll settle for a solid LG1 position with some strong recruitment between now and next August. the single most important thing imo is the stadium situation. looking up the leagues is pointless with our current infrastructure.
So, 55-65 points and some stadium progression for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 16:35:25 GMT
The last time we took our eye off the playing side of things we ended up in the conference. Hopefully there will more of a balance now. I'm not too fussed about promotion anyway. As long we aren't relegated then that will do until the stadium is sorted out one way or another. That in itself shame as promotion is there for the taking this season and there aren't many stand out performers in L1. As we are, we would get pumped every week in the championship so as long as we are playing decent entertaining stuff then ill be happy.
A bit surprised at that comment with Scunny, Sheff U and Bolton getting so many points. Only 2 go up in the autos too.
TBH im just going by what ive seen this season in person and on TV. Scunthorpe looked good in the first game but wasn't impressed that much by Sheffield Utd or Bolton even though we lost both. Charlton looked a lot better without their best player, and played us off the park but are down in 12th. I just think anyone who wants to have a good go at promotion and backs their manager in Jan will have a good chance. The top sides seem to be breaking free currently but that is down to the lack of quality generally around this league.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 30, 2016 16:57:56 GMT
I get your point, Sheff U were v. lucky to win at Coventry recently and they looked pretty average against us on Boxing Day but the top 3 do seem to have pulled away, plus DC seems to be content with aiming for a top 6 spot rather than top 3 this season. As far as another poster saying Sincs can alternate with OC I've always said Lines & Sincs just don't play well together, in fact Sincs seems to struggle to form a good partnership with any of our CM's.
Wael's tweeted he's going tomorrow and was there on Boxing Day so it is clearly still v. committed to Rovers, it will be interesting to see how he does back DC this January.
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Post by socrates on Dec 30, 2016 17:01:17 GMT
No I think we need to bring an experienced keeper of league 1 standard in we need another holding midfielder to rotate or replace Olly Clarke and we could do with another winger to challenge Monty and Bodin. If we do all those and play 4-4-2 the majority of games I think we'll finish top 6. What about Sinclair to rotate with Olly ? No I like Sinclair but what we had in our last two promotion seasons was Mansel who would just fit in front of the back four and hold things together while Lines, Brown , leads etc made their forward runs. Maybe Sinclair could be trained to do it but I think the only two we have who have done it well are Clarke and Mansel. Sinclair plays better in a three man central midfield but the rest of our team don't. Sinclair on the bench for me ready in case we need to change formation if 4-4-2 isn't working.
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Post by socrates on Dec 30, 2016 17:04:21 GMT
I don't want is to get in the playoffs. Every year it's relegation or promotion drama. This time I'll settle for a solid LG1 position with some strong recruitment between now and next August. the single most important thing imo is the stadium situation. looking up the leagues is pointless with our current infrastructure. So, 55-65 points and some stadium progression for me. 55 points would be a very stressful second half of the season with lots of defeats. 4 go down and the last position will probably finish on 50-52 points.
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