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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 2, 2017 20:57:49 GMT
Has no one ever told you that the moment you swear you lose the argument? I also doubt you would say it to my face. I am entitled to my view, and my view is that DC let all those supporters who went to day down by choosing the wrong players. And goalies? Tell me, without using the f word, because it is slang for sexual intercourse, and I really don't want to with you, but tell me what goalkeeper Clarke has got in that has been classed as good? Remember Mildenhall was not Clarkes player. You are entitled to your view but your posts are negtivity are negativity. If you reflect on that then considering we have 2 promotions and are top hlf of league one then you must have some sort of bias against DC doing so well? Yes DC hasn't signed a decent goalkeeper yet but he hasn't got a lot wrong during his time here. Me thinks he likes a good ol moan ! Ignore it ggmi
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 21:01:18 GMT
Has no one ever told you that the moment you swear you lose the argument? I also doubt you would say it to my face. I am entitled to my view, and my view is that DC let all those supporters who went to day down by choosing the wrong players. And goalies? Tell me, without using the f word, because it is slang for sexual intercourse, and I really don't want to with you, but tell me what goalkeeper Clarke has got in that has been classed as good? Remember Mildenhall was not Clarkes player. You are entitled to your view but your posts are negtivity are negativity. If you reflect on that then considering we have 2 promotions and are top hlf of league one then you must have some sort of bias against DC doing so well? Yes DC hasn't signed a decent goalkeeper yet but he hasn't got a lot wrong during his time here. Conversely though by being so successful in the past 2 years the standard has been set high. Sky high. As are people's expectations now. So when we do lose in that fashion I think people are entitled to be negative.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 2, 2017 21:03:21 GMT
You are entitled to your view but your posts are negtivity are negativity. If you reflect on that then considering we have 2 promotions and are top hlf of league one then you must have some sort of bias against DC doing so well? Yes DC hasn't signed a decent goalkeeper yet but he hasn't got a lot wrong during his time here. Conversely though by being so successful in the past 2 years the standard has been set high. Sky high. As are people's expectations now. So when we do lose in that fashion I think people are entitled to be negative. Yeah every right to be negative but this clown is never positive and only really appears after defeats.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 21:31:17 GMT
We were in grave danger of losing today as soon as the Team sheet went up with the inclusion of Lawrence and Mansell who both had virtually no match minutes this Season. This is no way to give confidence to a Team who have been frail at the back even in some games we have won. DC made no mention of his bizarre selection today and perhaps he should have more faith in the fitness of Lines, O.Clarke and Bodin to play 1 and a half to 2 games in two days. You should play those who are in form before playing those who are rusty because we ended up beating ourselves today. 100% agree. can't just look at the defenders today, stuck a shambles of a midfield in front if them. were you and dragonfly at the game today? i get confused on these threads,im trying to get stuff from people at the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 21:44:58 GMT
lets be honest we have struggled all season in the central defensive and goalkeeper roles. roos,puddy,clarke-salter,hartley,lockyer,james clarke and mcchrystal have not been in any way commanding and for me its been our main weak area. if we sign nobody else but a keeper and 2 centre halves of known ability at this level i would be well happy. lockyer,roos and clarke-salter can improve of course but right now we need better and stronger
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 2, 2017 21:59:58 GMT
lets be honest we have struggled all season in the central defensive and goalkeeper roles. roos,puddy,clarke-salter,hartley,lockyer,james clarke and mcchrystal have not been in any way commanding and for me its been our main weak area. if we sign nobody else but a keeper and 2 centre halves of known ability at this level i would be well happy. lockyer,roos and clarke-salter can improve of course but right now we need better and stronger We've also struggled when ever Sinclair has played recently.......
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Post by oldgas on Jan 2, 2017 22:00:56 GMT
Just got home from the match. Our defending was an absolute joke. For their first goal we gave away the softest free kick in a dangerous area, there was absolutely no reason why we couldn't have cleared the ball up the pitch or out of play before their player "bought" the free kick. We then proceeded to give their big CF the freedom of the penalty area and he couldn't miss. Their second seemed to come from the same scenario, and for their third we were a man down. The ball was passed into the missing defenders area and that was game over. Why didn't we keep Leads on the pitch for treatment and then sub him before the free kick was taken?
Schoolboy errors and poor game management from where I was sitting. It would be catastrophic if we were to fluke our way to promotion without buying at least 6 new players, and I don't think it's possible for any club to do that unless money is absolutely no object, and I don't believe that's DC's way of doing things. In the words of Likkle Lee, I reckon DC will need 2 or 3 windows to build a Championship side.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 2, 2017 22:04:08 GMT
100% agree. can't just look at the defenders today, stuck a shambles of a midfield in front if them. were you and dragonfly at the game today? i get confused on these threads, im trying to get stuff from people at the game.Just listen to DC's post match interview he clearly puts the blame fully on Locks/the team not being able to defend against set pieces.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 2, 2017 22:09:05 GMT
Just got home from the match. Our defending was an absolute joke. For their first goal we gave away the softest free kick in a dangerous area, there was absolutely no reason why we couldn't have cleared the ball up the pitch or out of play before their player "bought" the free kick. We then proceeded to give their big CF the freedom of the penalty area and he couldn't miss. Their second seemed to come from the same scenario, and for their third we were a man down. The ball was passed into the missing defenders area and that was game over. Why didn't we keep Leads on the pitch for treatment and then sub him before the free kick was taken? Schoolboy errors and poor game management from where I was sitting. It would be catastrophic if we were to fluke our way to promotion without buying at least 6 new players, and I don't think it's possible for any club to do that unless money is absolutely no object, and I don't believe that's DC's way of doing things. In the words of Likkle Lee, I reckon DC will need 2 or 3 windows to build a Championship side. The first goal came from a free kick which started from Gaffney's awful cross-field backwards pass I thought?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 22:22:07 GMT
lets be honest we have struggled all season in the central defensive and goalkeeper roles. roos,puddy,clarke-salter,hartley,lockyer,james clarke and mcchrystal have not been in any way commanding and for me its been our main weak area. if we sign nobody else but a keeper and 2 centre halves of known ability at this level i would be well happy. lockyer,roos and clarke-salter can improve of course but right now we need better and stronger We've also struggled when ever Sinclair has played recently....... was sinclair marking there big striker on set plays today then? seems crazy but if he was i take my hat off to you and admit it was all stuarts fault today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 22:24:38 GMT
were you and dragonfly at the game today? i get confused on these threads, im trying to get stuff from people at the game.Just listen to DC's post match interview he clearly puts the blame fully on Locks/the team not being able to defend against set pieces. yes i got that but i also like to get stuff from fans at the game,if mansell,lawrence,sinclair and moore had shockers today thats fine but im not keen on people who didnt go saying how bad they were today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 22:41:45 GMT
Just listen to DC's post match interview he clearly puts the blame fully on Locks/the team not being able to defend against set pieces. yes i got that but i also like to get stuff from fans at the game,if mansell,lawrence,sinclair and moore had shockers today thats fine but im not keen on people who didnt go saying how bad they were today. I don't think any of those players were particularly poor today. It literally was a case of you cant give away goals from set pieces and win a game. First half we were fairly comfortable. Think it's a leadership/communication thing with our defence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 23:00:40 GMT
yes i got that but i also like to get stuff from fans at the game,if mansell,lawrence,sinclair and moore had shockers today thats fine but im not keen on people who didnt go saying how bad they were today. I don't think any of those players were particularly poor today. It literally was a case of you cant give away goals from set pieces and win a game. First half we were fairly comfortable. Think it's a leadership/communication thing with our defence. thanks,i listened to the radio but always good to get views from fans at the actual match.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 23:30:24 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 3, 2017 0:27:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 4:55:55 GMT
These two didn't look too happy in the away end. Apparently Lines response to being asked why he wasn't playing was, "It is what it is". Sounds as though he finds it frustrating, but has accepted that it is DC's way.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 3, 2017 6:57:44 GMT
These two didn't look too happy in the away end. Apparently Lines response to being asked why he wasn't playing was, "It is what it is". Sounds as though he finds it frustrating, but has accepted that it is DC's way. After what happened yesterday those two have to be our midfield two on Saturday.
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Post by albaron on Jan 3, 2017 8:36:42 GMT
Cannot believe what happened yesterday. We lost the game before it started -- How come we made 6 changes from sat Clarke got it totally wrong and in my view the 1500 + fans that went were let down. If I could i'd have my money back. Even our chairman was surprised at the line up. Never been so watered off after a game in all my life and I was at the famous Tottenham 9-0. I'm not going to slate individual players but most of them yesterday were out of there depth. Nice ground though.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 3, 2017 8:42:12 GMT
Cannot believe what happened yesterday. We lost the game before it started -- How come we made 6 changes from sat Clarke got it totally wrong and in my view the 1500 + fans that went were let down. If I could i'd have my money back. Even our chairman was surprised at the line up. Never been so watered off after a game in all my life and I was at the famous Tottenham 9-0. I'm not going to slate individual players but most of them yesterday were out of there depth. Nice ground though. Because we had a game 48 before. DC always rotates his team when we have 2 or 3 games in such a short period. I wonder how you and others felt when we were 1 up? For all the changes made, it appears to be bad defending which has let us down. Moaning about the 6 changes is a cop out and we could well have lost with those 6 players playing. Let's not forget they hammered us 5-1 at our place.
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Post by oviedista on Jan 3, 2017 9:10:58 GMT
My summary of the game and post match comments:
The players brought in were actually just average not terrible - the midfield competed fairly well but we lacked pace on the break. Easter seemed like a 5th (good) midfielder but Gaffney can't cut it up front on his own - so little penetration. Generally we we're very defensive and deep first half but should have gone in 1 up but for the first of three terrible defensive lapses. When the second half goals went in heads dropped a bit and game was over. Charlton were definitely the stronger side and deserved the win - but it should have been closer and could have been a different result.
So to the 'too many changes' thing. Personally I didn't feel cheated as I don't know what out first team is yet anyway. But I do agree DC overplayed the need for a Xmas fixture rotation. What I can't agree with is the 'simple winning formula' idea. Every time we win and play well the is an assumption that we have found the solution. But the same team can be great one week and atrocious the next depending on opposition. DC has the problem that if he changes the team and we lose - that will always be seen as the reason.
Winning formulas need to be built and they evolve - you don't just discover them because you win once. Ultimately we have to take these results because we are playing much more ruthless sides. But you can see the potential even with a game like yesterdays. I remember the days watching us win under Ward with no sign whatsoever of any kind of progressive football. It's frustrating sure - but don't assume DC is ignoring some obvious solution - maybe he is just trying to make sure he gets it right.
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