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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 12, 2017 16:57:39 GMT
IMO, one thing is for sure when DC either leaves or gets the sack, we will still be here supporting the Gas, his opinion currently is all that matters and to date he has done a great job; that said, it does not mean I have to agree with every thing he says or does. For me, Charlie is the most gifted, talented and technical player I have seen in the quarters since Gary Mabbutt, he has played for England and is contracted to Chelsea who just happen to be top of the premier league, they let BRFC have Charlie for twelve months and BRFC do not play him regularly, FFS, and Boateng, not sure what was going on there, all I do know, when he was subbed at Sheffield United, he was my man of the match, and soon as DC changed the formation, we concede a sloppy goal and lose 1 nil, and DC admits to date it was our best performance of the season,doh.
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Post by holderz on Jan 12, 2017 17:11:33 GMT
Decent player,if inconsistent, but was never our player, never going to be our player, Move on !!
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 12, 2017 17:39:19 GMT
Sometimes forums are all about opinions and facts rarely come into it. That's ok because forums are inviting people to share their opinions and it gets discussion going. But what AntonioF said is true and is largely fact and I think it shows without doubt (although I am sure some will doubt it) that DC has very good man-management skills and he must be a very good coach because he has taken a large number of players who were playing in the Conference and moulded and turned them into a good League 1 team on the back of two promotions. And I've always loved that quote from Gary Player which can be used in any context, sporting, working or just life. DC does improve players and he is an exceptional coach to have used the same group of players to do well in this league. I bet there are many other managers who wished they were as "lucky"!! UTG! Without wishing to sound negative, it is only January. A bad period may see us slide right down the table like the 82ers. Conclusions that we are a 'good league 1 team' are surely best left til the end of the season! The job isn't done yet. Sorry for sounding like Topper there Don't disagree with that, but I guess if we left discussion and even conclusions until the end of the season then there'd be not so much to talk about! But you are right about there being a lot of the season to go and the league is still quite close. So yes, final conclusions should be left for after the Millwall match! My point was AntonioF was correct to say that with all his points it was a bit unfair to say DC was "lucky." I wish all our managers were as lucky!! UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 12, 2017 18:02:30 GMT
Sometimes forums are all about opinions and facts rarely come into it. That's ok because forums are inviting people to share their opinions and it gets discussion going. But what AntonioF said is true and is largely fact and I think it shows without doubt (although I am sure some will doubt it) that DC has very good man-management skills and he must be a very good coach because he has taken a large number of players who were playing in the Conference and moulded and turned them into a good League 1 team on the back of two promotions. And I've always loved that quote from Gary Player which can be used in any context, sporting, working or just life. DC does improve players and he is an exceptional coach to have used the same group of players to do well in this league. I bet there are many other managers who wished they were as "lucky"!! UTG! Just to be cleared I'm not saying DC's success is down to luck, just he's been lucky this season that 8 of the Conference players have manged to step up to the challenge as none of this summers signings, bar Hartley, have so far proven they can hold down a Div 1 place.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 18:08:18 GMT
Sometimes forums are all about opinions and facts rarely come into it. That's ok because forums are inviting people to share their opinions and it gets discussion going. But what AntonioF said is true and is largely fact and I think it shows without doubt (although I am sure some will doubt it) that DC has very good man-management skills and he must be a very good coach because he has taken a large number of players who were playing in the Conference and moulded and turned them into a good League 1 team on the back of two promotions. And I've always loved that quote from Gary Player which can be used in any context, sporting, working or just life. DC does improve players and he is an exceptional coach to have used the same group of players to do well in this league. I bet there are many other managers who wished they were as "lucky"!! UTG! Just to be cleared I'm not saying DC's success is down to luck, just he's been lucky this season that 8 of the Conference players have manged to step up to the challenge as none of this summers signings, bar Hartley, have so far proven they can hold down a Div 1 place. So he's lucky that 8 of his signings have turned out good? I wouldn't call that luck, I'd call that good management.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 12, 2017 18:15:56 GMT
I appreciate what you're saying Topper, but if he's fortunate/lucky/worked hard to make 8 of this team capable of stepping up to League 1, then he has done an even more remarkable job because not many other managers have done this. I would like to think the reason we have 8 players capable of moving up two levels is because we have a very good manager who coaches his players very well and man-manages the squad so that we do well. Think hard work, time spent improving players and focussing on improving players is more likely to be the reason, not luck! The more DC works hard, spends time with players, the better BRFC becomes. You are right though our players have dealt with the challenge better than the loanees. UTG!
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Post by syg on Jan 12, 2017 22:36:11 GMT
Now with swindon. Ummmm.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 12, 2017 22:43:24 GMT
Just to be cleared I'm not saying DC's success is down to luck, just he's been lucky this season that 8 of the Conference players have manged to step up to the challenge as none of this summers signings, bar Hartley, have so far proven they can hold down a Div 1 place. So he's lucky that 8 of his signings have turned out good? I wouldn't call that luck, I'd call that good management. Not sure they are all his signings, regardless, we're all lucky they turned out good as we'd be having a poor season if we had to rely upon Moore, James, Roos, Roberts, Boateng and Colkett rather than the ex cons!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 13, 2017 0:07:55 GMT
So he's lucky that 8 of his signings have turned out good? I wouldn't call that luck, I'd call that good management. Not sure they are all his signings, regardless, we're all lucky they turned out good as we'd be having a poor season if we had to rely upon Moore, James, Roos, Roberts, Boateng and Colkett rather than the ex cons! Why do you keep using the word 'lucky'? DC isn't lucky that players he signed in the conference have made the step up to League One. If they were good enough for League One then I don't think they'd have been signing for a non-league team on non-league wages. That means one of two things has happened: 1.) They were conference level players that DC has improved to turn them into League One players. 2.) They had the ability to play at League One level but their previous managers couldn't get the best out of them. Either way luck has nothing to do with it and DC and his coaching team need to take all the plaudits for turning a group of conference players into League One players. UTG!
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Post by tinner on Jan 13, 2017 0:48:37 GMT
IMO, one thing is for sure when DC either leaves or gets the sack, we will still be here supporting the Gas, his opinion currently is all that matters and to date he has done a great job; that said, it does not mean I have to agree with every thing he says or does. For me, Charlie is the most gifted, talented and technical player I have seen in the quarters since Gary Mabbutt, he has played for England and is contracted to Chelsea who just happen to be top of the premier league, they let BRFC have Charlie for twelve months and BRFC do not play him regularly, FFS, and Boateng, not sure what was going on there, all I do know, when he was subbed at Sheffield United, he was my man of the match, and soon as DC changed the formation, we concede a sloppy goal and lose 1 nil, and DC admits to date it was our best performance of the season,doh. You are surely having a laugh, a young lad who did ok during a 5 month loan is the best you have seen in nearly 40 years......bloody hell I must have only dreamt about players like Mickey Barrett, David Williams, Gary Penrice, Mark Walters, Andy Tillson, Vitas Astafjevs, Nathan Ellington, Barry Hayles, Marcus Stewart, etc etc.......Jesus, I have heard it all now!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 16:31:45 GMT
Too soon
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 13, 2017 16:40:51 GMT
It's like your ex going on facebook with a load of pics of her new boyfriend.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 17:09:57 GMT
It's like your ex going on facebook with a load of pics of her new boyfriend. Haha true. Proof that I meant nothing to the girl
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 13, 2017 17:33:31 GMT
It's like your ex going on facebook with a load of pics of her new boyfriend. And you have a laugh 'cause you think they've downgraded.
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Post by aghast on Jan 13, 2017 20:08:29 GMT
It's impossible to look at that picture without the eyes being drawn reluctantly to the red scarf. Some things are just wrong. A bit like this one:
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 13, 2017 23:39:48 GMT
Not sure they are all his signings, regardless, we're all lucky they turned out good as we'd be having a poor season if we had to rely upon Moore, James, Roos, Roberts, Boateng and Colkett rather than the ex cons! Why do you keep using the word 'lucky'? DC isn't lucky that players he signed in the conference have made the step up to League One. If they were good enough for League One then I don't think they'd have been signing for a non-league team on non-league wages. That means one of two things has happened: 1.) They were conference level players that DC has improved to turn them into League One players. 2.) They had the ability to play at League One level but their previous managers couldn't get the best out of them. Either way luck has nothing to do with it and DC and his coaching team need to take all the plaudits for turning a group of conference players into League One players. UTG! Napoleon was famously quoted as wanting lucky generals rather than good ones, but who was it who said the more I practice the luckier I get?
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Post by baggins on Jan 14, 2017 8:32:13 GMT
Why do you keep using the word 'lucky'? DC isn't lucky that players he signed in the conference have made the step up to League One. If they were good enough for League One then I don't think they'd have been signing for a non-league team on non-league wages. That means one of two things has happened: 1.) They were conference level players that DC has improved to turn them into League One players. 2.) They had the ability to play at League One level but their previous managers couldn't get the best out of them. Either way luck has nothing to do with it and DC and his coaching team need to take all the plaudits for turning a group of conference players into League One players. UTG! Napoleon was famously quoted as wanting lucky generals rather than good ones, but who was it who said the more I practice the luckier I get? Gary Player.
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Post by axegas on Jul 6, 2017 9:49:55 GMT
Colkett has joined vitesse arnhem on a season long loan deal.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jul 6, 2017 9:59:03 GMT
Playing abroad with a different style of play might suit his game. He was technically a class above at this level but just not strong enough and went missing too often. Still a lot of potential to have a great career ahead of him though, I wish him all the best.
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