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Post by LJG on Feb 17, 2017 23:22:51 GMT
Yet more assertion based on absolutely no facts whatsoever. Only, it would appear, that the club chairman said this at the SC AGM. No provenance there then! He said they have a plan B. That's it. Show me where he said anything about not being "that" confident. Yet more imagination and fabrication from topper.
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Post by thegasman on Feb 18, 2017 8:15:36 GMT
SH did indeed say there was a plan B, but that "we don't really like discussing it.".
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 18, 2017 8:21:46 GMT
Only, it would appear, that the club chairman said this at the SC AGM. No provenance there then! He said they have a plan B. That's it. Show me where he said anything about not being "that" confident. Yet more imagination and fabrication from topper. No, just an opinion, but why tell 20man a month ago there was no Plan B but now tell fans there is one?
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Post by xplosivgas on Feb 18, 2017 9:08:32 GMT
He said they have a plan B. That's it. Show me where he said anything about not being "that" confident. Yet more imagination and fabrication from topper. No, just an opinion, but why tell 20man a month ago there was no Plan B but now tell fans there is one? Perhaps it's just a bluff? Stating there is no plan b during a negotiation process doesn't sound very good
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 18, 2017 9:11:47 GMT
He said they have a plan B. That's it. Show me where he said anything about not being "that" confident. Yet more imagination and fabrication from topper. No, just an opinion, but why tell 20man a month ago there was no Plan B but now tell fans there is one? Perhaps Plan B is only 3 weeks and 6 days old.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 10:29:27 GMT
He said they have a plan B. That's it. Show me where he said anything about not being "that" confident. Yet more imagination and fabrication from topper. No, just an opinion, but why tell 20man a month ago there was no Plan B but now tell fans there is one? Just out of curiosity regarding your consistent dim view and negativity of the present owner and the chairman, when SH says anything to the press, do you take into account that perhaps UWE officials read press cuttings or listen to the radio? Also Nick Higgs, would you have him back?
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 18, 2017 10:51:18 GMT
In fairness, Steve Hamer in one of his recent interviews, put a back date, on when the current planning permission expires later in year, for when a final decision has to be made, one way or the other; which seems pretty sensible, and gives the board 6 months to sort out the will they, wont they fiasco out.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 18, 2017 11:11:38 GMT
No, just an opinion, but why tell 20man a month ago there was no Plan B but now tell fans there is one? Just out of curiosity regarding your consistent dim view and negativity of the present owner and the chairman, when SH says anything to the press, do you take into account that perhaps UWE officials read press cuttings or listen to the radio? Also Nick Higgs, would you have him back? We don't have an owner, we have owners and I have no dim views of them as then seem to be doing their best but can't force the UWE to do a deal, although nobody really knows what the UWE want as they never speak to the press. I just feel SH makes it up as he goes along, a month ago he sold 20man he wasn't going to give weekly updates, since he's given two updates. If he wanted to give the UWE the impression we have a Plan B why deny it a month ago on the radio, as that was likely to get more publicity than at an SC meeting. Even if we have a Plan B it'll be years before any of us are sat in a new stadium, unless S Glos have given pp in secret.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 18, 2017 11:35:23 GMT
Just out of curiosity regarding your consistent dim view and negativity of the present owner and the chairman, when SH says anything to the press, do you take into account that perhaps UWE officials read press cuttings or listen to the radio? Also Nick Higgs, would you have him back? We don't have an owner, we have owners and I have no dim views of them as then seem to be doing their best but can't force the UWE to do a deal, although nobody really knows what the UWE want as they never speak to the press. I just feel SH makes it up as he goes along, a month ago he sold 20man he wasn't going to give weekly updates, since he's given two updates. If he wanted to give the UWE the impression we have a Plan B why deny it a month ago on the radio, as that was likely to get more publicity than at an SC meeting. Even if we have a Plan B it'll be years before any of us are sat in a new stadium, unless S Glos have given pp in secret. If the land is under the control of a the Govt development agency, then things move a lot quicker
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Post by You can call me Al. on Feb 18, 2017 11:48:44 GMT
We don't have an owner, we have owners and I have no dim views of them as then seem to be doing their best but can't force the UWE to do a deal, although nobody really knows what the UWE want as they never speak to the press. I just feel SH makes it up as he goes along, a month ago he sold 20man he wasn't going to give weekly updates, since he's given two updates. If he wanted to give the UWE the impression we have a Plan B why deny it a month ago on the radio, as that was likely to get more publicity than at an SC meeting. Even if we have a Plan B it'll be years before any of us are sat in a new stadium, unless S Glos have given pp in secret. If the land is under the control of a the Govt development agency, then things move a lot quicker With greatest of bleedin respect my learned friend, if you think you know something can you please stop pussy footing around and spit it out. If we wanted riddles we'd buy the soddin Telegraph. Thanks in advance and no offence intended Henbury.
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Post by LJG on Feb 18, 2017 12:09:45 GMT
He said they have a plan B. That's it. Show me where he said anything about not being "that" confident. Yet more imagination and fabrication from topper. No, just an opinion, but why tell 20man a month ago there was no Plan B but now tell fans there is one? But you haven't presented it as an opinion have you? You presented it as something which is true when yet again you have no basis whatsoever for saying it. We can play "How do you know it's not ... " all day long How do you know planning or appearing to plan for alternatives isn't just a negotiating tool? How do you know a plan b isn't a condition of the loan arrangements from financiers? How do you know ... etc etc etc
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 18, 2017 12:16:58 GMT
If the land is under the control of a the Govt development agency, then things move a lot quicker With greatest of bleedin respect my learned friend, if you think you know something can you please stop pussy footing around and spit it out. If we wanted riddles we'd buy the soddin Telegraph. Thanks in advance and no offence intended Henbury. Dear Lord Sugar, i know nothing ! BTW When i last meet you in London all those years ago, when you first started trading as AMS trading under those railway arches, you treated my with great respect, even though i just returned my Victor 2020 Amplifier as being duff and said it was a load of crap Good day to you Sir !
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Post by baggins on Feb 18, 2017 12:19:33 GMT
With greatest of bleedin respect my learned friend, if you think you know something can you please stop pussy footing around and spit it out. If we wanted riddles we'd buy the soddin Telegraph. Thanks in advance and no offence intended Henbury. Dear Lord Sugar, i know nothing ! BTW When i last meet you in London all those years ago, when you first started trading as AMS trading under those railway arches, you treated my with great respect, even though i just returned my Victor 2020 Amplifier as being duff and said it was a load of crap Good day to you Sir ! You met Lord Sugar under the arches? Do go on.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 18, 2017 12:21:00 GMT
Dear Lord Sugar, i know nothing ! BTW When i last meet you in London all those years ago, when you first started trading as AMS trading under those railway arches, you treated my with great respect, even though i just returned my Victor 2020 Amplifier as being duff and said it was a load of crap Good day to you Sir ! You met Lord Sugar under the arches? Do go on. it was a long time ago but yes i have had the pleasure of talking to the great man, i was a bit disturbed at the time because he looked like a child....
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Post by baggins on Feb 18, 2017 12:28:14 GMT
You met Lord Sugar under the arches? Do go on. it was a long time ago but yes i have had the pleasure of talking to the great man, i was a bit disturbed at the time because he looked like a child.... And we'll leave it there.
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Post by c4h10 on Feb 18, 2017 14:07:44 GMT
Just out of curiosity regarding your consistent dim view and negativity of the present owner and the chairman, when SH says anything to the press, do you take into account that perhaps UWE officials read press cuttings or listen to the radio? Also Nick Higgs, would you have him back? We don't have an owner, we have owners and I have no dim views of them as then seem to be doing their best but can't force the UWE to do a deal, although nobody really knows what the UWE want as they never speak to the press. I just feel SH makes it up as he goes along, a month ago he sold 20man he wasn't going to give weekly updates, since he's given two updates. If he wanted to give the UWE the impression we have a Plan B why deny it a month ago on the radio, as that was likely to get more publicity than at an SC meeting. Even if we have a Plan B it'll be years before any of us are sat in a new stadium, unless S Glos have given pp in secret. Kept his word there, then, That's fortnightly on average.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 14:12:03 GMT
Whilst I'm glad there is a plan b, I really hope plan a works. I think uwe, so close to a constant stream of students, has far more potential for revenue and new fans. More so than somewhere like avonmouth where there is literally nobody about after dark. UWE is a good site because it will be directly on the metro bus link...like ashton gate....it also has a railway station within a short walk..has access to the ring road ,M32,M4,M5 motorways . Being close to housing and the university extra events can bring in non travelling audiences so reducing traffic. The only problem is the site will be restricted to about 35,000 capacity due to parking and space to develop so when Rovers catch up with City in the Europa league in a few years the potential to maximise revenue from 100,000 crowds wont be there.............
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 18, 2017 20:59:46 GMT
No, just an opinion, but why tell 20man a month ago there was no Plan B but now tell fans there is one? But you haven't presented it as an opinion have you? You presented it as something which is true when yet again you have no basis whatsoever for saying it. We can play "How do you know it's not ... " all day long How do you know planning or appearing to plan for alternatives isn't just a negotiating tool? How do you know a plan b isn't a condition of the loan arrangements from financiers? How do you know ... etc etc etc www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04s1b1qAt approx 25 mins Wael agrees with GT that SH was correct when he said prevously that there was no Plan B, it seems a do have a basis for my opinion. (Although to be fair to SH at the moment I think we only have Gasincider's post suggesting SH did say there was a Plan B on Thursday night)
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Post by LJG on Feb 18, 2017 21:02:58 GMT
But you haven't presented it as an opinion have you? You presented it as something which is true when yet again you have no basis whatsoever for saying it. We can play "How do you know it's not ... " all day long How do you know planning or appearing to plan for alternatives isn't just a negotiating tool? How do you know a plan b isn't a condition of the loan arrangements from financiers? How do you know ... etc etc etc www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04s1b1qAt approx 25 mins Wael agrees with GT that SH was correct when he said prevously that there was no Plan B, it seems a do have a basis for my opinion. (Although to be fair to SH at the moment I think we only have Gasincider's post suggesting SH did say there was a Plan B on Thursday night) You're just doing the same thing again. Inferring things that aren't there. I didn't say anything about your opinion. I said you present your opinion as fact and you do. You're doing it in that very post.
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