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Post by pucklegas on Feb 27, 2017 20:21:44 GMT
I'm not too sure on that, current price of land for housing is 1 million an acre, commercial 500 k, and don't think they would get PP for housing on the land earmarked. Lets face it they hold all the cards at the moment so could quote a very high rate. How many acres do you think the site is? Not too sure but no where near 58 acres, thought someone on here said they got the land at a cheap price from H Packard, depends how keen they are on the build, imagine that Wael has a plan B, and that South Glos might have given him the heads up on alternatives, but guesswork. UWE had chance to say they are no longer keen last week, I am more hopeful that listening to steve Hamer prior to Warsaw. As some have mentioned with his elder brother and father here recently maybe they have made progress. All I know I don't trust Chump even if he said tomorrow was Tuesday!
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Post by yategas78 on Feb 27, 2017 20:24:17 GMT
Time will tell the plot thickens!!
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Post by Finnish Gas on Feb 27, 2017 20:41:18 GMT
Lets face it they hold all the cards at the moment so could quote a very high rate. How many acres do you think the site is? Not too sure but no where near 58 acres, thought someone on here said they got the land at a cheap price from H Packard, depends how keen they are on the build, imagine that Wael has a plan B, and that South Glos might have given him the heads up on alternatives, but guesswork. UWE had chance to say they are no longer keen last week, I am more hopeful that listening to steve Hamer prior to Warsaw. As some have mentioned with his elder brother and father here recently maybe they have made progress. All I know I don't trust Chump even if he said tomorrow was Tuesday! For all we know H Packard may have inserted a "clawback clause" in the event of the land being sold for other purposes than university use. Such a situation might change the dynamics of current negotiations.
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Post by yategas78 on Feb 27, 2017 20:44:17 GMT
Let's just chill out and wait to hear something officially from Keith Chimp!!😜😜😜
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 27, 2017 20:44:19 GMT
Heard from a reliable source today that UWE had the land valued at £29 million. Rovers had offered £7 million to purchase it. Not sure how much further along with the negotiations they are from that starting position, but just shows the initial figures were miles apart. No wonder it's taking so long to get to a mutual agreement. £7/8m was what the land was valued at by the UWE when NH agreed the naming rights, not sure where the £29m came from as lets face facts if the UWE want that much there's no way the stadium is feasible. I've heard they wanted £15m, which has some logic to it given it's a similar plot of land to the Mem site.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Feb 27, 2017 20:51:58 GMT
Heard from a reliable source today that UWE had the land valued at £29 million. Rovers had offered £7 million to purchase it. Not sure how much further along with the negotiations they are from that starting position, but just shows the initial figures were miles apart. No wonder it's taking so long to get to a mutual agreement. £7/8m was what the land was valued at by the UWE when NH agreed the naming rights, not sure where the £29m came from as lets face facts if the UWE want that much there's no way the stadium is feasible. I've heard they wanted £15m, which has some logic to it given it's a similar plot of land to the Mem site. I assume you mean in size? As 50 houses or whatever on the Mem site would imo be worth considerably more than the same 50 houses on the UWE site.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Feb 27, 2017 20:54:55 GMT
£7/8m was what the land was valued at by the UWE when NH agreed the naming rights, not sure where the £29m came from as lets face facts if the UWE want that much there's no way the stadium is feasible. I've heard they wanted £15m, which has some logic to it given it's a similar plot of land to the Mem site. I assume you mean in size? As 50 houses or whatever on the Mem site would imo be worth considerably more than the same 50 houses on the UWE site. I'm not so sure? Are you aware of how much students are willing to pay for shared properties? Student houses are the best investment going imo. UTG!
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Feb 27, 2017 21:03:22 GMT
I assume you mean in size? As 50 houses or whatever on the Mem site would imo be worth considerably more than the same 50 houses on the UWE site. I'm not so sure? Are you aware of how much students are willing to pay for shared properties? Student houses are the best investment going imo. UTG! There's loads of student houses around the Mem too. I know it's further from UWE but on Gloucester Road I imagine it attracts students from Bristol Uni as well.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 27, 2017 21:04:50 GMT
Not too sure but no where near 58 acres, thought someone on here said they got the land at a cheap price from H Packard, depends how keen they are on the build, imagine that Wael has a plan B, and that South Glos might have given him the heads up on alternatives, but guesswork. UWE had chance to say they are no longer keen last week, I am more hopeful that listening to steve Hamer prior to Warsaw. As some have mentioned with his elder brother and father here recently maybe they have made progress. All I know I don't trust Chump even if he said tomorrow was Tuesday! For all we know H Packard may have inserted a "clawback clause" in the event of the land being sold for other purposes than university use. Such a situation might change the dynamics of current negotiations. Why would it change anything the UWE must have always know the position with HP, if there are any clawback clauses that will have been at the forefront of their minds from day 1?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Feb 27, 2017 21:08:33 GMT
I'm not so sure? Are you aware of how much students are willing to pay for shared properties? Student houses are the best investment going imo. UTG! There's loads of student houses around the Mem too. I know it's further from UWE but on Gloucester Road I imagine it attracts students from Bristol Uni as well. Yes I know what you mean. My initial reaction was that the Mem land would be worth more too. I was just being pedantic really, I saw $$$ signs at the thought of owning a property on the university campus. UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 27, 2017 21:21:06 GMT
I assume you mean in size? As 50 houses or whatever on the Mem site would imo be worth considerably more than the same 50 houses on the UWE site. I'm not so sure? Are you aware of how much students are willing to pay for shared properties? Student houses are the best investment going imo. UTG! I sense most students want to get away from the UWE site not live on it's door step once they've completed their first year, so unless times have changed most lived down the Glos Rd rather than Filton/Stoke Gifford, any extension of Cheswick Village would be for residential sales rather than student lets.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Feb 27, 2017 21:25:07 GMT
I'm not so sure? Are you aware of how much students are willing to pay for shared properties? Student houses are the best investment going imo. UTG! I sense most students want to get away from the UWE site not live on it's door step once they've completed their first year, so unless times have changed most lived down the Glos Rd rather than Filton/Stoke Gifford, any extension of Cheswick Village would be for residential sales rather than student lets. I disagree. Students want to move away from halls and into private accommodation after first year, but most are happy to have uni right on their doorstep, lazy fuckers are students.
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Post by LJG on Feb 27, 2017 22:20:48 GMT
I'm not so sure? Are you aware of how much students are willing to pay for shared properties? Student houses are the best investment going imo. UTG! I sense most students want to get away from the UWE site not live on it's door step once they've completed their first year, so unless times have changed most lived down the Glos Rd rather than Filton/Stoke Gifford, any extension of Cheswick Village would be for residential sales rather than student lets. Oop he's had a "fact thought"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 22:44:32 GMT
Heard from a reliable source today that UWE had the land valued at £29 million. Rovers had offered £7 million to purchase it. Not sure how much further along with the negotiations they are from that starting position, but just shows the initial figures were miles apart. No wonder it's taking so long to get to a mutual agreement. £7/8m was what the land was valued at by the UWE when NH agreed the naming rights, not sure where the £29m came from as lets face facts if the UWE want that much there's no way the stadium is feasible. I've heard they wanted £15m, which has some logic to it given it's a similar plot of land to the Mem site. The uwe site [25 acres]is smaller than the new training camp site [29 acres]. Approx figures from memory...
As for the hotel on the stadium....on the UWE plans there is a 200 bedroom hotel site allocated just next to the stadium nearer to abbeywood. As well as a small commercial unit site next to that .
I suspect this would indicate there are no plans to build a hotel into the stadium ...just for the hotel to be purchased also.
I also guess that UWE wanted a diverse portfolio on the land they held bringing in different income streams over a long period of time as part of long term financial health of the university. Selling the land provides short term gain...unless of course they invest that money into other money making projects.
So as both the training camp and the stadium sites hold similar things and have PP for such...sports with some commercial activity and education should that not mean that the prices should be similar ?? If UWE had also put in a planning request for housing and had that passed it would be valued differently ,at a higher price. ??
The UWE obviously want an ongoing benefit from the stadium being there else why bother having it there ,other than the money those benefits need to be established I guess.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Feb 27, 2017 23:28:18 GMT
Clearly they will want some sort of financial return but I thought a large part of the benefit was to be that the students would get to use the facility away from matchday for educational and recreational purposes.
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Post by Blackbeard on Feb 27, 2017 23:31:55 GMT
I'm going to oxford on Saturday
Not thinking one bit about the bloody stadium until the BRFC website tells me the deal is done
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Post by Gasshole on Feb 28, 2017 3:41:04 GMT
It really is pancake day to-morrow I'm told. was it the Chimp?
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Post by yategas78 on Feb 28, 2017 6:14:55 GMT
Sales of JIFF Lemon have gone through the roof now , there's a sign!,👌
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Post by Marshy on Feb 28, 2017 6:52:36 GMT
Sales of JIFF Lemon have gone through the roof now , there's a sign!,👌 Does that mean that today is the day then? I hear that Durex are bring out a commemorative product today. Lemon flavour condoms, they make you come in a jiff.
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Post by RD on Feb 28, 2017 6:56:46 GMT
Clearly b0llocks.
I could go on the FB Appreciation page, Twitter - or even here probably - and post that someone in the club told me that Katie Price is our new head scout and within minutes you'd have others piping up saying "Yeh I've heard the same actually".
Sad little people pretending to be ITK.
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