|
|
Post by Feeling The Blues on Feb 28, 2017 8:34:54 GMT
Clearly b0llocks. I could go on the FB Appreciation page, Twitter - or even here probably - and post that someone in the club told me that Katie Price is our new head scout and within minutes you'd have others piping up saying "Yeh I've heard the same actually". Sad little people pretending to be ITK. Those who talk don't know. Those who know don't talk. |
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Feb 28, 2017 8:37:05 GMT
£7/8m was what the land was valued at by the UWE when NH agreed the naming rights, not sure where the £29m came from as lets face facts if the UWE want that much there's no way the stadium is feasible. I've heard they wanted £15m, which has some logic to it given it's a similar plot of land to the Mem site. The uwe site [25 acres]is smaller than the new training camp site [29 acres]. Approx figures from memory...
As for the hotel on the stadium....on the UWE plans there is a 200 bedroom hotel site allocated just next to the stadium nearer to abbeywood. As well as a small commercial unit site next to that .
I suspect this would indicate there are no plans to build a hotel into the stadium ...just for the hotel to be purchased also.
I also guess that UWE wanted a diverse portfolio on the land they held bringing in different income streams over a long period of time as part of long term financial health of the university. Selling the land provides short term gain...unless of course they invest that money into other money making projects.
So as both the training camp and the stadium sites hold similar things and have PP for such...sports with some commercial activity and education should that not mean that the prices should be similar ?? If UWE had also put in a planning request for housing and had that passed it would be valued differently ,at a higher price. ??
The UWE obviously want an ongoing benefit from the stadium being there else why bother having it there ,other than the money those benefits need to be established I guess.
You can't compare land values for, what I believe, is green belt land on the outskirts of Almondsbury with prime development land in Filton. As far as the stadium as the club will now own it the UWE will obtain little real benefit, ie it will no longer be called the UWE Stadium etc, hence, why they now seemingly want a good price for the land as subject to pp from S Glos they could sell the land for any developement. |
|
|
|
Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 28, 2017 8:42:26 GMT
Lesley Crowther is buying the club because the al Qadis are about to walk away? Only if the price is right. |
|
|
|
Post by Gasshole on Feb 28, 2017 8:45:31 GMT
Katie Price, yeah I heard the same last week. Actually it might have been Katy Perry, me ears are shot ( too much time in the Tote end)....but yeah defo....big announcement next week Fred Perry. The rumour I heard was that "Perry Como" was going to release Irene on an 8" EP to coincide with the stadium announcement, or some such bolloxs   |
|
|
|
Post by grayraydon on Feb 28, 2017 8:51:22 GMT
Clearly b0llocks. I could go on the FB Appreciation page, Twitter - or even here probably - and post that someone in the club told me that Katie Price is our new head scout and within minutes you'd have others piping up saying "Yeh I've heard the same actually". Sad little people pretending to be ITK. On the whole I tend to agree with you but the (as far as I know) person who first put this on FB is a good friend of mine and in no way is an attention seeker or sad little person pretending to be ITK, he told me about it Sunday morning at first and seems very confident, he was correct with info he told me about the takeover. I'm not saying he's right, he may be or may not be, just that he's not Chimp or anyone trying to seem important and ITK like that. |
|
|
|
Post by yattongas on Feb 28, 2017 8:56:39 GMT
The best case scenario is we move to UWE in 2 yrs time.
In the meantime I'd like us to continue the small improvements to the Mem to tide us over. Extending the roof from the Thatchers end around the corner onto the east terrace and a roof for the away end ( always feel sorry for those poor buggers) . It wouldn't cost the earth and would help with the atmosphere for home and away fans.
|
|
|
|
Post by northsidegas on Feb 28, 2017 9:06:19 GMT
The best case scenario is we move to UWE in 2 yrs time. In the meantime I'd like us to continue the small improvements to the Mem to tide us over. Extending the roof from the Thatchers end around the corner onto the east terrace and a roof for the away end ( always feel sorry for those poor buggers) . It wouldn't cost the earth and would help with the atmosphere for home and away fans. why would you want to improve the atmosphere for the away end? Quieter the better |
|
|
|
Post by yattongas on Feb 28, 2017 9:17:14 GMT
The best case scenario is we move to UWE in 2 yrs time. In the meantime I'd like us to continue the small improvements to the Mem to tide us over. Extending the roof from the Thatchers end around the corner onto the east terrace and a roof for the away end ( always feel sorry for those poor buggers) . It wouldn't cost the earth and would help with the atmosphere for home and away fans. why would you want to improve the atmosphere for the away end? Quieter the better Because the home fans have to raise their game as well. The ground would look better and it's embarrassing. |
|
|
|
Post by Severncider on Feb 28, 2017 9:23:17 GMT
I do not expect any announcement this week regarding the start of development at UWE.
|
|
|
|
Post by gasincider on Feb 28, 2017 9:39:16 GMT
People who get frustrated at the 'delays' need to consider a few hard facts.
Assume we need £40m to develop the stadium. If we assume we have 40 years to repay the loan at say 5% per annum, we have to generate £3m per year that we don't have now. Put it another way, that is £250k per month or £62500 per week.
That is impossible, so we need the additional land to generate income from other businesses.
Say an additional £10m to buy and develop the additional land. We now need to repay £1.25m per annum plus interest of £2.5m. That is £3.75m per annum. Put another way that is £312,500 per month we do not currently have, or £78k per week.
Eye watering isn't it. Now you can see why without the additional land, the project cannot move forward. Will we get it? Who knows.
|
|
|
|
Post by stuart1974 on Feb 28, 2017 9:39:22 GMT
I'm not too sure on that, current price of land for housing is 1 million an acre, commercial 500 k, and don't think they would get PP for housing on the land earmarked. Lets face it they hold all the cards at the moment so could quote a very high rate. How many acres do you think the site is? The HP land was 70 acres, the stadium area is just over 8 acres with another 6 surrounding it for 'other use'. www.bristol-business.net/rovers-plan-60m-stadium-at-uwe/ |
|
|
|
Post by LJG on Feb 28, 2017 9:42:03 GMT
The uwe site [25 acres]is smaller than the new training camp site [29 acres]. Approx figures from memory...
As for the hotel on the stadium....on the UWE plans there is a 200 bedroom hotel site allocated just next to the stadium nearer to abbeywood. As well as a small commercial unit site next to that .
I suspect this would indicate there are no plans to build a hotel into the stadium ...just for the hotel to be purchased also.
I also guess that UWE wanted a diverse portfolio on the land they held bringing in different income streams over a long period of time as part of long term financial health of the university. Selling the land provides short term gain...unless of course they invest that money into other money making projects.
So as both the training camp and the stadium sites hold similar things and have PP for such...sports with some commercial activity and education should that not mean that the prices should be similar ?? If UWE had also put in a planning request for housing and had that passed it would be valued differently ,at a higher price. ??
The UWE obviously want an ongoing benefit from the stadium being there else why bother having it there ,other than the money those benefits need to be established I guess.
You can't compare land values for, what I believe, is green belt land on the outskirts of Almondsbury with prime development land in Filton. As far as the stadium as the club will now own it the UWE will obtain little real benefit, ie it will no longer be called the UWE Stadium etc, hence, why they now seemingly want a good price for the land as subject to pp from S Glos they could sell the land for any developement. You really can't stop can you? What basis in FACT do you have for saying any of the stuff in bold? |
|
|
|
Post by francegas on Feb 28, 2017 9:48:47 GMT
Katie Price wouldn't even get out of bed for only 8" !! Ok, that's enough now. Time to stop dissing my Dream Girl. Dream Girl!! She's been laid more times than a second hand carpet. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 9:51:56 GMT
Ok, that's enough now. Time to stop dissing my Dream Girl. Dream Girl!! She's been laid more times than a second hand carpet. To be fair a second hand carpet has only been laid twice |
|
|
|
Post by pucklegas on Feb 28, 2017 9:52:25 GMT
Heard the big news is "greasy joe" from our Twerton days has won the catering contract, on the proviso he washes his hands during this tenure, and salmonella is off the menu!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 9:55:39 GMT
The best case scenario is we move to UWE in 2 yrs time. In the meantime I'd like us to continue the small improvements to the Mem to tide us over. Extending the roof from the Thatchers end around the corner onto the east terrace and a roof for the away end ( always feel sorry for those poor buggers) . It wouldn't cost the earth and would help with the atmosphere for home and away fans. Let's wait and see if the Sh1!heads will be joining us next year before we hastily make any improvements to the away terrace |
|
|
|
Post by thecopster on Feb 28, 2017 10:22:05 GMT
You can't extend the roof over the east terrace as anyone in the Dribuild (yes thats me!) would no longer be able to see the corner of the pitch!
|
|
|
|
Post by axegas on Feb 28, 2017 10:35:57 GMT
You can't extend the roof over the east terrace as anyone in the Dribuild (yes thats me!) would no longer be able to see the corner of the pitch! I think you can extend the dribuild to run the length of the pitch. Wouldn't this give away fans extra seats, so we can allocate the whole of the south stand to home fans? |
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 28, 2017 10:42:58 GMT
Katie Price wouldn't even get out of bed for only 8" !! Ok, that's enough now. Time to stop dissing my Dream Girl. She is the only girl i know who has "next" on her knickers and i don't mean the ones from the shop |
|
|
|
Post by thecopster on Feb 28, 2017 11:03:29 GMT
You can't extend the roof over the east terrace as anyone in the Dribuild (yes thats me!) would no longer be able to see the corner of the pitch! I think you can extend the dribuild to run the length of the pitch. Wouldn't this give away fans extra seats, so we can allocate the whole of the south stand to home fans? yes - but thats a slightly different proposal than sticking up a tin roof! planning permission and £millions for a stand! |
|
