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Post by Wimborne Gas on Mar 15, 2017 11:38:47 GMT
And said the second was a dive. Didn't he say 'The first one definitely wasn't a dive, the second one, maybe.' He did, followed by "to be sent off for two dives is quite disappointing obviously when one of them wasn't" implying that the second one was the only dive.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 15, 2017 12:12:37 GMT
So why dive for a second time if you have already been booked for simulation....??
His actions cost the team a fair crack at a result.
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Post by Blueside on Mar 15, 2017 12:16:07 GMT
Interesting that on this thread there is a general consensus that One or both incidents were or could have been dives, whereas on the "ref" thread there is no way that either of them were! 😀😙
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Post by markczgas on Mar 15, 2017 13:06:19 GMT
Byron Moore - what a waste of space - first goal absolutely no need to challenge and then 2nd didn't bother tracking back - Moore on for Bodin at HT Eh? Moore started. Even worse
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Post by meader on Mar 15, 2017 13:11:15 GMT
Just seen highlights from last nights disaster. So here are my thoughts. Stuart Sinclair did not deserve to be booked 2 times for so call Simulation. For the 1st booking, it appears that the Bury player as clipped Sinclair's foot causing him to fall. It was not a DIVE! Anyhow, why would any player want to DIVE when neat the halfway line? As for the 2nd booking, once again, the Bury player has caught him. NOT A BOOKING! And as for the penalty...NO WAY!!! There is hardly any contact, yet their player goes down and referee gives a penalty. Bad Decision. Just hope DC gives the ref 2/10 in his report! Feel very sorry for Stu Sinclair. But at least he will miss just one match, not 3.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 15, 2017 13:22:46 GMT
Just seen highlights from last nights disaster. So here are my thoughts. Stuart Sinclair did not deserve to be booked 2 times for so call Simulation. For the 1st booking, it appears that the Bury player as clipped Sinclair's foot causing him to fall. It was not a DIVE! Anyhow, why would any player want to DIVE when neat the halfway line? As for the 2nd booking, once again, the Bury player has caught him. NOT A BOOKING! And as for the penalty...NO WAY!!! There is hardly any contact, yet their player goes down and referee gives a penalty. Bad Decision. Just hope DC gives the ref 2/10 in his report! Feel very sorry for Stu Sinclair. But at least he will miss just one match, not 3. 2 out of 10 for the ref? f**k me he wasn't that good! The man was a disgrace and cheat. Sinclair was bad enough but the penalty well! How can he book Stu twice and not book that cheating fecker for the penalty dive?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Mar 15, 2017 14:38:00 GMT
I think the less said about that second goal, the better. I watched a game of Sunday league football last weekend and barely anyone got that much space on the whole pitch, let alone in the oppositions box. You can't blame the ref for that, that was just truly woeful.
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Post by althepirate on Mar 15, 2017 14:46:03 GMT
Just seen highlights from last nights disaster. So here are my thoughts. Stuart Sinclair did not deserve to be booked 2 times for so call Simulation. For the 1st booking, it appears that the Bury player as clipped Sinclair's foot causing him to fall. It was not a DIVE! Anyhow, why would any player want to DIVE when neat the halfway line? As for the 2nd booking, once again, the Bury player has caught him. NOT A BOOKING! And as for the penalty...NO WAY!!! There is hardly any contact, yet their player goes down and referee gives a penalty. Bad Decision. Just hope DC gives the ref 2/10 in his report! Feel very sorry for Stu Sinclair. But at least he will miss just one match, not 3. 2 out of 10 for the ref? f**k me he wasn't that good! The man was a disgrace and cheat. Sinclair was bad enough but the penalty well! How can he book Stu twice and not book that cheating fecker for the penalty dive? I think the ref should have sent himself off for simulation.
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Post by gastropod on Mar 15, 2017 14:55:36 GMT
I think the less said about that second goal, the better. I watched a game of Sunday league football last weekend and barely anyone got that much space on the whole pitch, let alone in the oppositions box. You can't blame the ref for that, that was just truly woeful. I don't think anyone is blaming the ref for the second goal... Probably something to do with throwing players forward to try and get an equaliser and only having 10 men on the pitch. But I can't really comment as I wasn't there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 18:58:52 GMT
for the first booking the players ran across each other maybe there was slight contact maybe the crossing of paths made him lose balance ? Didn't appear to be a dive. The second booking....running into the box near the byline ready to cross perhaps..overstretching himself here he isn't a winger after all some contact may have encouraged him to lose balance ? The penalty...slight contact..enough to send a player who had lost balance already over perhaps. Contact is contact though and that's the risk players take.
Would somebody not connected to league one football viewing the three incidents a year from now be able to correctly guess which ones gained cards and which one gained a foul ?
maybe this is what a ref panel should view ?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 15, 2017 19:05:26 GMT
Contact is contact though and that's the risk players take. Contact's not actually against the rules, despite what they keep going on about on match of the day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:26:30 GMT
How has he given a penalty where the bloke is going down before contact, when he's sent Sinclair off for the same thing?
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 15, 2017 19:40:56 GMT
 Contact is contact though and that's the risk players take. Contact's not actually against the rules, despite what they keep going on about on match of the day. Indeed. It's a contact sport, iirc. Contact shmontact.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 15, 2017 19:47:34 GMT
Is there anything stopping the Football League authorities studying the penalty footage and, if as can clearly be seen he Bury player conned the ref with a blatant piece of simulation, they retrospectively award him a 3 match ban. That would put a stop to all this cheating.
As for Sinclair, the same applies as I have no time for cheats. However, Ido believe he was clipped in the first incident, supported by the fact their player put his hands up to acknowledge the foul.
We're not going to win every match, but to lose as a result of incompetent refereeing and cheating leaves a bitter taste.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:57:28 GMT
We all know that some refs rule with the card and have absolutely no common sense. I've always been of the opinion that refs in league one are either failed Championship and Premiership ones, or those that haven't made the grade yet. Onto the next game UTG It's easy to slate refs - then kids at grass roots start doing it too. That's a discipline issue. #Bring back the cane
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Mar 15, 2017 20:07:48 GMT
Is there anything stopping the Football League authorities studying the penalty footage and, if as can clearly be seen he Bury player conned the ref with a blatant piece of simulation, they retrospectively award him a 3 match ban. That would put a stop to all this cheating. As for Sinclair, the same applies as I have no time for cheats. However, Ido believe he was clipped in the first incident, supported by the fact their player put his hands up to acknowledge the foul. We're not going to win every match, but to lose as a result of incompetent refereeing and cheating leaves a bitter taste. I think a 3 match ban would be too much but a one match ban maybe. I also think that a lot of retrospective decisions would be harder to make in the lower league than the prem due to the differences in the number of camera angles. But I agree with the principle of what you're saying. I watch prem football every week where players blatantly cheat and think, why don't they just watch the replay of that and give him an automatic one match ban. When there is an element of doubt, leave it alone, but when a player tries to blatantly con the referee, they need to be punished otherwise it's just going to continue escalating. The FA constantly talk about supporting referees yet they do nothing about it. Referees are humans that are going to make mistakes when they have to make an instant decision in real time. If a video referee watches a replay of something and overrules him, they are not undermining the referee, they are supporting and taking the pressure off him. Players conning referees is the worst thing in the game at the minute and everyone agrees, yet nothing is done about it.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Mar 15, 2017 20:13:38 GMT
**** grass roots,we are talking about professional football, the referee gets paid and was blatantly cheating. Although, having been just booked for being fouled himself, what Sinclair was thinking about going to ground so easy again, astounded me.
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Post by gregsy on Mar 15, 2017 20:16:30 GMT
and in other news: I'm gonna have the cleanest season ticket at the mem on Saturday.... because my partner has just run it through the washing machine
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 15, 2017 20:23:22 GMT
Just watched the Gasplayer extended highlights and after around a minute a Bury player goes to ground similar to the pen but isn't booked for diving, then we have the pen itself which is clearly a dive once the striker raises JC's going to win the ball, meanwhile Sinc gets two yellows for one which was clearly not a dive and the second which was no worse than the two Bury "dives" shown in the highlights.
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Post by gasstrictband on Mar 15, 2017 20:26:31 GMT
I hope you're wife is going to iron it as well ,if a jobs worth doing and all that .
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