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Post by thegasareback on Mar 26, 2017 7:30:06 GMT
There's a lot of negativity on here last night and this morning. "How can we be so good against Oxford and so mediocre against Coventry", LJ isn't good enough, Bodin didnt produce again, Moore can't trap a bag of cement, Lines had a mare etc etc.
If Bodin beat 5 players and scored from 20 yards every week he wouldn't be playing in League 1. If Moore had a silky touch and scored goals like at Bolton every week then he wouldn't be playing in League 1. So on and so forth.
As it's well advertised, Ee still have the basis of the conference team. In the last two years we've been able to get away with mediocre performances given the lesser nature of the opposition. No, I'm not Moore's biggest fan, but he's a decent squad player. No, it's not acceptable that LJ hasn't scored yet. No, it's not right that our quality players (Lines and BBB) go missing too often away from home. But we are where we are and more often than not this season the team have overperformed given expectation and the players we have. One look at Southend the other day, they started up top with Cox and Fortune and still had Ranger and Robinson to bring on and Mooney injured. That's a different world to where we are at the moment.
Yes yesterday was bitterly disappointing but sometimes I just think we need a reality check and be grateful of where we are considering where we were on 16th August 2014 after one point from nine in the conference (that day we had Mild, Leads, Brown, Manse, Ollie C, Sincs and Snake all start for us.)
This year we've more than consolidated and had a remote play off push. Now is the time for Clarke to give the fringe lads a chance to earn another contract. Sink or swim time. And really sign some proven players over the summer who can be more consistent for us next year, and hopefully give us a more sustained bid next year. UTG
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Mar 26, 2017 7:53:19 GMT
Sensible post before 9 on Sunday what going on? Total agree with you
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 26, 2017 8:00:21 GMT
I think we've had a cracking season but I will be very disappointed if we sign Luke James and retain Moore.
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Post by dmacca65 on Mar 26, 2017 8:09:21 GMT
Not one to get involved on here to often as there is far to much nonsense written and slating of each other in this great gas family, "cough cough"
My 12th away game yesterday and whatever the excuses, how lucky we are, conference team, our recent great achievements and all the rest of it, people only live by the here and now, history counts for nothing. The way I saw it yesterday and against the likes of Bury, and Chesterfield away its clear to see we have a very soft underbelly and poor mindset when it comes to playing the mundane teams, it was so bad at times yesterday second half you could have been forgiven for thinking we were trying to throw the game?
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Post by singupgas on Mar 26, 2017 8:22:02 GMT
The season is done, the fringe players have had all season to break into the starting 11 and earn new contracts.
It's obvious what we need to do, sign a new center bac- Sweeney if possible, a goalkeeper- Lumnley would be great.
Replace Montano or Moore with a new Winger and play them every week. the change of players every week probably hasn't some anything for Montano or Moore's confidence and former.
2 new strikers - I would let our current lot go at the end of the season. LJ not don't enough to earn permanent move, not particularly quick or skillful and doesn't look like scoring so not sure what he offers that we couldn't find elsewhere. Harrison has had plenty of chances here and is Mr inconsistency, if he could step up and lead the attack that be great but still doesn't show any signs that he could. I'd possibly only keep Gaffeney of the lot as he could be a different options against big defenders.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 26, 2017 8:44:20 GMT
I think we've had a cracking season but I will be very disappointed if we sign Luke James and retain Moore. ^ This
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Post by socrates on Mar 26, 2017 9:17:31 GMT
The season is done, the fringe players have had all season to break into the starting 11 and earn new contracts. It's obvious what we need to do, sign a new center bac- Sweeney if possible, a goalkeeper- Lumnley would be great. Replace Montano or Moore with a new Winger and play them every week. the change of players every week probably hasn't some anything for Montano or Moore's confidence and former. 2 new strikers - I would let our current lot go at the end of the season. LJ not don't enough to earn permanent move, not particularly quick or skillful and doesn't look like scoring so not sure what he offers that we couldn't find elsewhere. Harrison has had plenty of chances here and is Mr inconsistency, if he could step up and lead the attack that be great but still doesn't show any signs that he could. I'd possibly only keep Gaffeney of the lot as he could be a different options against big defenders. Yeah Gafney is the only one I'd keep too but we need a striker or preferably two in a similar mound to Twatty Taylor to play him with, he's the ideal decoy for that kind of player. Wingers Bodin and Montano I'd keep but try to offload Moore and sign Lumley and Sweeny if we can and I think we'd be strong enough for play off push next season.
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Post by 70s on Mar 26, 2017 9:48:18 GMT
I said at the start of the season we need 4 possibly 5 players. Goalkeeper,centre back, winger and 2 strikers,second season will be rough need to spend
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 26, 2017 10:01:46 GMT
I think we've had a cracking season but I will be very disappointed if we sign Luke James and retain Moore. ^ This I might be wrong but I think Moore has another year on his contract.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 26, 2017 10:32:08 GMT
I might be wrong but I think Moore has another year on his contract. Indeed he does.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Mar 26, 2017 10:42:29 GMT
Luke James has divided opinion a lot. There were a lot saying last week that he would be a good signing and that his goals were just round the corner. I don't know who was saying that to say whether people have changed their opinion on him after one game or not but he's gone from getting a lot of praise to a lot of criticism very quickly.
I think people are so disappointed because we have come quite close to the playoffs and it's now not looking possible. If we'd have been 12th-15th, that would still have been a decent season in terms of consolidating but the season would've already been over by now and people would probably be less disappointed with the odd bad result or bad performance. We've come so far so quickly and had so much success in recent years that it's almost expected that we win every week. It's been a cracking season and id be very surprised if we don't have a better one next year. UTG!
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Post by justin blue on Mar 26, 2017 10:44:14 GMT
As well as we have done this season I think we are an average side well managed, defensively solid but lacking in all other areas.
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Post by axegas on Mar 26, 2017 11:00:55 GMT
As well as we have done this season I think we are an average side well managed, defensively solid but lacking in all other areas. Defensively solid? We have let in one of the highest amount of goals in the league, yes we've turned a corner but as a season on the whole we have been poor at the back especially away from home.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 26, 2017 11:09:53 GMT
Luke James has divided opinion a lot. There were a lot saying last week that he would be a good signing and that his goals were just round the corner. I don't know who was saying that to say whether people have changed their opinion on him after one game or not but he's gone from getting a lot of praise to a lot of criticism very quickly. I think people are so disappointed because we have come quite close to the playoffs and it's now not looking possible. If we'd have been 12th-15th, that would still have been a decent season in terms of consolidating but the season would've already been over by now and people would probably be less disappointed with the odd bad result or bad performance. We've come so far so quickly and had so much success in recent years that it's almost expected that we win every week. It's been a cracking season and id be very surprised if we don't have a better one next year. UTG! He missed a penalty, that is what happened.
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Post by justin blue on Mar 26, 2017 11:12:51 GMT
As well as we have done this season I think we are an average side well managed, defensively solid but lacking in all other areas. Defensively solid? We have let in one of the highest amount of goals in the league, yes we've turned a corner but as a season on the whole we have been poor at the back especially away from home. Can't argue with that based on the whole season, but I was talking about games I have watched recently how I see it going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 11:15:11 GMT
I said at the start of the season we need 4 possibly 5 players. Goalkeeper,centre back, winger and 2 strikers,second season will be rough need to spend I think you could add a midfielder to that list as we need cover/ competition for Ollie and Linsey with Mansell not getting any younger. In some ways I'd see a central midfielder as more important than a winger as we have Bodin and Monty with Broom and Moore as cover and a 5th winger might be too much of a luxury. OK if Moore is moved on or Broom loaned out then agree a winger needs to be on shopping list as well. Sounds like a busy summer for DC who will need to get moving in the market a bit quicker than last year.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 26, 2017 11:15:14 GMT
I don't get this let's just be content with where we are attitude as if DC did last season we'd still be stuck in Div 2, if you don't strive to improve in football (and in life generally?) you tend to go backwards. Although if I was managing a team/playing in one yesterday was a day I'd want a decent performance to keep the travelling masses happy.
There is clearly an issue with the team when we keep failing to turn up against the poorer teams, Barrow, Shrewsbury, Chesterfield, Walsall, Port Vale & Coventry, is it a general issue or is it because somebody like Lines consistently fails to turn up for the, seemingly, lesser games, or the whole team just fail to perform?
As far as James is concerned what's the point of a striker who rarely shoots at goal, let alone scores, I can't understand why he doesn't play on the wings of us where he could do a decent job, he must be better than Moore anyway!
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Post by long john silver on Mar 26, 2017 11:17:30 GMT
We just need to win as many games we can between now and the end of the season and see where we're at. A top 10 finish would be a good season for us. I feel we're paying the price slightly for not getting a decent replacement for the snake but DC was quoted as saying he was willing to wait till the summer to get his top targets and go all out for a promotion next year. Happy to play the long game given our previous record with expensive signings.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 26, 2017 15:29:53 GMT
We just need to win as many games we can between now and the end of the season and see where we're at. A top 10 finish would be a good season for us. I feel we're paying the price slightly for not getting a decent replacement for the snake but DC was quoted as saying he was willing to wait till th e summer to get his top targets and go all out for a promotion next year. Happy to play the long game given our previous record with expensive signings. Pressure on that given last summer his top targets/signings were Hartley, Moore, James & Roos!
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 26, 2017 15:53:54 GMT
This is my big worry but also why I think we will hold on to DC for at least another season.IMO he has not yet proven he is capable of signing the top quality p[layers we need to really challenge. How much of this is and will be down to money I don't know. Is the money being provided or is it not? Is it there to be spent or not? I personally feel that Darrell needs the extra experience with us because the Championship and Premier League need a different experience from the Manager.
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