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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 27, 2017 14:45:40 GMT
What's this squad player nonsense? Every player in the squad needs to be good enough to play in the first team surely?? I guess people mean it in the way that Easter, Mansell, Harris, J Clarke, Mildenhall etc are squad players? They're not the best in their position that we have at the club (and therefore aren't usually first choice), but they won't let us down when called upon.
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Post by dinsdale on Mar 27, 2017 14:47:45 GMT
We need our strikers to score goals which is why i would replace all of them.
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Post by dinsdale on Mar 27, 2017 14:48:25 GMT
Playing well doesn't win matches. Scoring does. It's kind of the goal of the game if you will. But James working hard helps tire the opposition and create space for the midfield etc (look at Oxford as an example.) Also James has played his part in helping us a defensive unit IMO. You cant get promoted playing with two mostly non scoring forwards whatever else they bring.
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Post by socrates on Mar 27, 2017 15:20:30 GMT
We need our strikers to score goals which is why i would replace all of them. You must be pretty good up front then I'm surprised we haven't signed you already.
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Post by Jenks on Mar 27, 2017 22:25:57 GMT
Can someone brighter than me work out our average points per League match before we sold Taylor, and since we sold him? Might be interesting as part of this general debate.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Mar 27, 2017 22:55:33 GMT
Can someone brighter than me work out our average points per League match before we sold Taylor, and since we sold him? Might be interesting as part of this general debate. With Matty. P29 W12 D6 L11 F48 A50 GD-2 PTS 42 1.45 Without P11 W3 D6 L2 F10 A9 GD+1 PTS 15 1.36 Scored a lot, conceded a lot with Matty. Don't score, concede less without Matty. It's just been a season of two halves and had they not signed Matty to stop us progressing then we'd be firmly in the Play Offs IMO. Nothing we could do about it though. Bit harsh to be harsh on LJ as he hadn't been playing much this season. Gaffney and Harrison who regularly partnered MT on the other hand don't really have any excuses, and I'm not sure why they aren't getting slack either.
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 28, 2017 4:14:33 GMT
If you had a blocked toilet and got a plumber around. He rocks up , got some nice tools, a clean van and was very polite when you offered him a cup of tea and a custard cream, thoroughly nice chap, not overly expensive as well. Unfortunately he's not a plumber, can't fix your crapper, and the hallway carpet is now brown and lumpy. It's time to get a real plumber in, you may be able to keep the other bloke on if he fancies a spot of carpet cleaning.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 28, 2017 6:17:59 GMT
Can someone brighter than me work out our average points per League match before we sold Taylor, and since we sold him? Might be interesting as part of this general debate. With Matty. P29 W12 D6 L11 F48 A50 GD-2 PTS 42 1.45 Without P11 W3 D6 L2 F10 A9 GD+1 PTS 15 1.36 Scored a lot, conceded a lot with Matty. Don't score, concede less without Matty. It's just been a season of two halves and had they not signed Matty to stop us progressing then we'd be firmly in the Play Offs IMO. Nothing we could do about it though. Bit harsh to be harsh on LJ as he hadn't been playing much this season. Gaffney and Harrison who regularly partnered MT on the other hand don't really have any excuses, and I'm not sure why they aren't getting slack either. Because the question is should we buy a player who is not offering any kind of goal threat? Edit. Also, how many games did Twatty play with Sweeney and Lumley?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 28, 2017 6:26:01 GMT
With Matty. P29 W12 D6 L11 F48 A50 GD-2 PTS 42 1.45 Without P11 W3 D6 L2 F10 A9 GD+1 PTS 15 1.36 Scored a lot, conceded a lot with Matty. Don't score, concede less without Matty. It's just been a season of two halves and had they not signed Matty to stop us progressing then we'd be firmly in the Play Offs IMO. Nothing we could do about it though. Bit harsh to be harsh on LJ as he hadn't been playing much this season. Gaffney and Harrison who regularly partnered MT on the other hand don't really have any excuses, and I'm not sure why they aren't getting slack either. Because the question is should we buy a player who is not offering any kind of goal threat? Edit. Also, how many games did Twatty play with Sweeney and Lumley? It's all too simplistic to simply go on how many goals he has scored. Take Scott Kashket for example. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kashket1 goals in 23 games (7 apps being in the conference). Then goes to Wycombe and scores 9 in 16. Luke James is a hard worker and creator, been very unfortunate but has the right attitude and will come good IMO. I think comparing with Taylor is unfair. However, if we are going to compare then we can see that Matty Taylor was playing non league football for FGR at 22. We need more competition up front but stick with James, the boy will come good.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 28, 2017 6:54:47 GMT
Because the question is should we buy a player who is not offering any kind of goal threat? Edit. Also, how many games did Twatty play with Sweeney and Lumley? It's all too simplistic to simply go on how many goals he has scored. Take Scott Kashket for example. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kashket1 goals in 23 games (7 apps being in the conference). Then goes to Wycombe and scores 9 in 16. Luke James is a hard worker and creator, been very unfortunate but has the right attitude and will come good IMO. I think comparing with Taylor is unfair. However, if we are going to compare then we can see that Matty Taylor was playing non league football for FGR at 22. We need more competition up front but stick with James, the boy will come good. I'm not doubting his effort or work rate and I'm definitely not comparing him with Twatty Failure. I am looking at his lack of goal threat though. In the games I've seen him in he hasn't looked remotely like scoring despite playing ok. He is just a loanee ffs. We've had a try before you buy situation. I really don't understand why so many want us sign him. Even Blissett got in goal Scoring positions and got goals. Faith is belief in something where there is no evidence to support it.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 28, 2017 6:58:09 GMT
It's all too simplistic to simply go on how many goals he has scored. Take Scott Kashket for example. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kashket1 goals in 23 games (7 apps being in the conference). Then goes to Wycombe and scores 9 in 16. Luke James is a hard worker and creator, been very unfortunate but has the right attitude and will come good IMO. I think comparing with Taylor is unfair. However, if we are going to compare then we can see that Matty Taylor was playing non league football for FGR at 22. We need more competition up front but stick with James, the boy will come good. I'm not doubting his effort or work rate and I'm definitely not comparing him with Twatty Failure. I am looking at his lack of goal threat though. In the games I've seen him in he hasn't looked remotely like scoring despite playing ok. He is just a loanee ffs. We've had a try before you buy situation. I really don't understand why so many want us sign him. Even Blissett got in goal Scoring positions and got goals. Faith is belief in something where there is no evidence to support it. When I think about it, his best games for Rovers have been in away games, maybe why your opinion is different of him? Just a thought.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 28, 2017 7:32:59 GMT
I'm not doubting his effort or work rate and I'm definitely not comparing him with Twatty Failure. I am looking at his lack of goal threat though. In the games I've seen him in he hasn't looked remotely like scoring despite playing ok. He is just a loanee ffs. We've had a try before you buy situation. I really don't understand why so many want us sign him. Even Blissett got in goal Scoring positions and got goals. Faith is belief in something where there is no evidence to support it. When I think about it, his best games for Rovers have been in away games, maybe why your opinion is different of him? Just a thought. Yeah, that's possible. No away games for me this year sadly.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 28, 2017 8:02:19 GMT
He is better than the snake so defo YES How have you come to that conclusion?
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Post by singupgas on Mar 28, 2017 8:06:45 GMT
Doesn't score any goals. People can keep saying he is only 21, but how old do you have to be to score at the level you play at.
Players are breaking into premiership and championship clubs younger and are scoring at that level, so they deserve to be there.
Don't know how long you can wait for a striker to start scoring. especially one that is not even ours. I would let him go back to his parents club.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 28, 2017 8:07:39 GMT
There are players who create and those who score regularly but generally both get in goalscoring positions but the problem is they can't score due to missing chances on a regular basis. James just doesn't get in the scoring position. Yes he has had a couple of shots but hasn't really missed any chances unlike Taylor. Will he come good? I just can't see it based on what I have seen but DC sems to think he will so we just have to trust him and wait and see because at the present time we just don't have anybody better but I feel DC is wrong in playing him up front and have defenders who whack the ball up at head height like the second half at Coventry. I feel Montano is the player with a bit of ability who deserves a run IN the team till the end of the season and would like to see him given that chance if DC is prepared to give James that chance.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 28, 2017 8:08:54 GMT
Can someone brighter than me work out our average points per League match before we sold Taylor, and since we sold him? Might be interesting as part of this general debate. With Matty. P29 W12 D6 L11 F48 A50 GD-2 PTS 42 1.45 Without P11 W3 D6 L2 F10 A9 GD+1 PTS 15 1.36 Scored a lot, conceded a lot with Matty. Don't score, concede less without Matty. It's just been a season of two halves and had they not signed Matty to stop us progressing then we'd be firmly in the Play Offs IMO. Nothing we could do about it though. Bit harsh to be harsh on LJ as he hadn't been playing much this season. Gaffney and Harrison who regularly partnered MT on the other hand don't really have any excuses, and I'm not sure why they aren't getting slack either. if we had signed sweeney and the goalkeeper at the start of the season those stats would be way different. You can't blame the striker how was scoring the majority of the goals for all the goals we conceded when there are 10 other players in the team.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 28, 2017 8:53:18 GMT
He is better than the snake so defo YES How have you come to that conclusion? because the snake don't play for us anymore
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 14:33:20 GMT
I'd rather re-sign Nathan Bissett.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Mar 28, 2017 14:49:03 GMT
Far too lightweight.Falls over if someone sneezes and never ever looks like scoring.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 28, 2017 15:12:59 GMT
Giving him the penalty was a mistake imo, not because he missed it, it was because you are expected to score a penalty so he was on a hiding to nothing. I don't see how scoring a pen would have gave him confidence to score every week.
He needs to score a goal from open play but sadly never really looks like doing this. He may go off to somewhere else and score regularly but he has now failed with Hartlepool (2nd spell) Bradford and Peterborough. He is like a younger Derek O'Riordan, a shadow of his YouTube goal videos.
Bizarre and harsh comparison. I don't think I've ever seen a striker play so consistently well without scoring. Surel also very unfair on O'Riordon who is something like the third highest ever scorer in the Scottish prem?
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