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Post by Squiffy on Apr 7, 2017 8:01:54 GMT
There's an article in the Match Zone section of today's Metro which suggests ten changes to the rule book to improve the game:
1 No points for a 0-0 draw 2 The ten yard rule (this time without a yellow card) 3 Don't stop the quick free kick 4 Indirect free kick for accidental handball 5 Penalty goals (for deliberate actions preventing certain goals like handball on the goal line) 6 Proper drop balls (to be contested) 7 Change for change's sake (wear home kit unless colours clash) 8 Three cards (bring in orange as a final warning) 9 Sin bins (shirt pulling, excessive celebrations, etc) 10 Get tough on time wasting.
What do people think? Good ideas or bad?
There's more detail in the article but I haven't found an online version to link.
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Post by wiaww on Apr 7, 2017 8:06:53 GMT
other than 7 and 10 these are all horrible ideas
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 7, 2017 8:13:29 GMT
I like 4, coz that should give refs an easy way out on all this handball in the box, was it ball to hand, was it deliberate, was it a natural position nonsense what we get these days.
Plus indirect free kicks in the box are always a good spectacle.
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Post by northridinggas on Apr 7, 2017 8:15:23 GMT
These have obviously been thought up by someone with no knowledge of football fans. Some of the best games I have been to have been hard fought 0-0 draws.One of the attractions of football is how relatively rare goals are which makes them that much more special, these morons will want it to be like basketball
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Post by markczgas on Apr 7, 2017 8:26:34 GMT
These have obviously been thought up by someone with no knowledge of football fans. Some of the best games I have been to have been hard fought 0-0 draws.One of the attractions of football is how relatively rare goals are which makes them that much more special, these morons will want it to be like basketball Disagree with you. Although you can have the odd excellent 0 -0 game. Goals and saves are what people talk about and love to see - we want goalmouth action and we want to see the net bulge. More should be done to incentivise goals. Attacking players level/just ahead at offside decisions should get the benefit of doubt, more penalties for shirt grabbing and holding ( it ain't rugby !!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 8:28:21 GMT
Not too impressed with this list, I'd prefer to see refs. being able to call for a video reply and allowing each team a couple of video appeals on doubtful decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 8:52:50 GMT
I quite like the idea of number 1.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 7, 2017 8:55:34 GMT
Number 1 with a penalty shoot out for 1 point to the winner.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Apr 7, 2017 9:00:32 GMT
I get the idea behind 1 but I struggle to accept that if Coventry play away at Sheffield United (who they are 50+ points behind in the table) and come away with a 0-0 draw that they should be given the same amount of points as if they had lost 6-0.
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Post by gashead99 on Apr 7, 2017 9:08:17 GMT
Regarding 1 - 1 point for 0-0, 2 for a score draw - encourages attacking football
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Post by Squiffy on Apr 7, 2017 9:15:44 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 7, 2017 9:19:32 GMT
I think if it's 0-0 with an hour gone, then you can elect to bring a player off for double points bonus. So if you end up getting a win with ten men (against eleven) you get 6 points, and two for a draw. Then with 75 minutes gone you can elect to gamble for a double double bonus, or simply stick. If you stick you can double down and keep what you have or open the mystery box. There will be eleven boxes behind the goal, with a number of points in. You can open one box, to see how many points you get, but if you score again you can elect to swap the open box for a mystery box. Then, at the final whistle both managers can share the box with his opposite number or play an extra fifteen minutes winner-takes-all for the bonus box consolation, which can be cashed in at the end of the season depending on the bonus goal selection supermatch.
If you have a point from an away draw, you can play your joker to double up for free away goal bonus time, but only if you've already won the superball bonus match or taken four goalie points from the monthly super chance. Obviously you can't do this if you've already held your accumulator action on super clean-sheet defence points, which get added to your bonus fund for the weekly goal difference lottery.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Apr 7, 2017 11:56:57 GMT
Regarding 1 - 1 point for 0-0, 2 for a score draw - encourages attacking football Apart from when both teams shut up shop at 1-1, happy with their 2 points as it's only 1 point less than a win.
A draw is a draw regardless of scoring or not.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 7, 2017 12:05:17 GMT
Defensive football is part of the game. If a team goes 1-0 up then the might sit back and defend for the rest of the game so what difference does that make?
There is 1 big change I want to see - and that is to start coming down heavier on cheats. We need to start seeing players get sent off for diving, not straight red but 2 yellows and they're off. At the moment, players are getting away with murder and the percentage call is to go down and buy a cheap penalty/free kick etc rather than entertain the crowd with skill and actually try to outskill an opponent. Hazard's a great example - what a footballer, but he just goes down way too easy sometimes, he is better than that.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Apr 7, 2017 12:22:22 GMT
Defensive football is part of the game. If a team goes 1-0 up then the might sit back and defend for the rest of the game so what difference does that make? There is 1 big change I want to see - and that is to start coming down heavier on cheats. We need to start seeing players get sent off for diving, not straight red but 2 yellows and they're off. At the moment, players are getting away with murder and the percentage call is to go down and buy a cheap penalty/free kick etc rather than entertain the crowd with skill and actually try to outskill an opponent. Hazard's a great example - what a footballer, but he just goes down way too easy sometimes, he is better than that. Saw one get sent off the other week!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 7, 2017 12:23:45 GMT
Defensive football is part of the game. If a team goes 1-0 up then the might sit back and defend for the rest of the game so what difference does that make? There is 1 big change I want to see - and that is to start coming down heavier on cheats. We need to start seeing players get sent off for diving, not straight red but 2 yellows and they're off. At the moment, players are getting away with murder and the percentage call is to go down and buy a cheap penalty/free kick etc rather than entertain the crowd with skill and actually try to outskill an opponent. Hazard's a great example - what a footballer, but he just goes down way too easy sometimes, he is better than that. Saw one get sent off the other week! Yeah I know! It's true though. Barca vs PSG for example. Suarez went down easy about 10 times and not even sure if he got a yellow? Maybe 1? But also won a penalty when he should have been booked for diving!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 7, 2017 12:28:18 GMT
Normally I would say keep away from fiddling with the rules but I actually don't mind one or two of these. I think a penalty goal for a handball on the line when a certain goal was going to happen isn't too bad. I remember in the World Cup when I think it was Suarez for Uruguay handballed to stop a certain goal but the penalty was missed by Ghana, seemed a bit unfair when it was going to be a goal. Yes the player might get sent off but if it's near the end the team they next play benefits not you. So overall yes worth thinking about. 7, yes why do clubs not play in their colours when there's no clash? ( yes I probably know the reason, money!) and finally 10, time wasting. That would be great to do something about but tbf don't think we need a change of rule just Refs coming down hard when it happens in the first half. Dish out a few yellow cards early in the season, keep your nerve when everyone starts to moan and by December I bet it would be nearly gone from the game. Unfortunately the FA and the refs lose their nerve by the end of October and things just go back to where they were before.
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Post by long john silver on Apr 7, 2017 12:59:45 GMT
no 1 is a terrible idea , getting a 0-0 away from home and getting the same as getting tonked 10-0 . i think the points system is pretty fair and should be left alone.
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Post by gasstrictband on Apr 7, 2017 13:12:28 GMT
Changes.David Bowie.
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 7, 2017 13:40:44 GMT
most of the ideas are ok and do-able.
BUT it would make a complex set of rules even more complex. The ref at newcastle in front of 50,000 fans couldn;t even get a simple rule right. Luckily for him they still won and GD will probably not play a part in newcastle going up (what if it made a difference to Burton not going down though?).
Can you imagine if a handball near the line had to be judged whether it should be a penalty goal, a penalty, a sending off or not, or an indirect free kick, which BTW could be taken quickly... My mind is already exploding.
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