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Post by markczgas on May 12, 2017 11:22:42 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on May 12, 2017 12:13:43 GMT
Our aim should be to play as high as possible which in England is the premiership. First we need to get into the Championship and build while in the UWE. But we have premiership level potential as do the City but we need our new arena to fulfill this. If wigan, Bournemouth , Hull , swindon ,Barnsley ,Cardiff, Burnley ,Blackpool , Blackburn , Charlton, Bradford , fulham , Reading ,Stoke, Watford and now Brighton can do it - then so can we.As we as much potential fanbase as each one of them, if not the history. But We need to get the UWE sorted to do this. Agree we need a better stadium to realise our potential but it doesn't have to be an out of town stadium like UWE. Many of the biggest clubs in the country play in densely built up areas with little parking. For example both Liverpool clubs, both Manchester clubs, Newcastle meanwhile just across town our main rival have a redeveloped modern stadium on a small site in an urban area and an average attendance twice ours this season. I should add that none of those stadiums have large scale retail development attached to generate income for the football clubs either. Why therefore do we have to go to somewhere like UWE to realise our potential when other clubs don't? As mentioned earlier a redeveloped Mem could be fashioned to hold 25,000 if not burdened by space used for Student flats. As far as the parking restrictions that might come in to play if the ground is redeveloped, these can and should be renegotiated as there is a precedent south of the river where no such restrictions will come in to play unless average attendance exceeds 25,000 so surely we should get the same at a redeveloped Mem! Anfield etc have slowly developed over time, going form a run down 12K capacity stadium to a 25K one, even if it's possible, will take some getting past planners now and we'll probably always be stuck with restricted licensing laws meaning hospitality is apparently restricted. Also how do we finance the build/pay off the £10m debts and where do we play whilst the Mem is being rebuilt. If we did get around all those parking would be a complete nightmare without any stadium parking, as park & rides would probably be miles from the ground with CPZ's within a mile or two of the ground. If it's so easy why are Everton leaving Goodison, I'd sooner the UWE than a AG type redevelopment.
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Post by yategas78 on May 12, 2017 17:59:56 GMT
Has to be 10
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Post by warehamgas on May 12, 2017 19:37:08 GMT
Also the redevelopment of Anfield has caused a lot of unhappiness with the local community in the Anfield vicinity. 10 years ago houses were still inhabited, around there now it has become more and more of a ghost area. Streets were bought by the club and many people had to move. Not the greatest public relations exercise. Wouldn't like to see Rovers do that. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 20:48:24 GMT
They get a full house all there home games
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Post by Nortongashead on May 13, 2017 6:26:35 GMT
10 its time for this club to achieve its full potential.
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Post by gaffers on May 13, 2017 7:51:18 GMT
I know it's the next step and have dual feelings of the mem, If we move into an all seater fish bowl all the nostalgia and fortress we've built has gone and many teams seem to struggle when they get their new stadium but it's a must if we want to be a championship team...it will be interesting to see how long burton stay in their with a smaller ground than us...
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Post by gaffers on May 13, 2017 7:53:22 GMT
Uwe is a bad spot for me apart from easier drive in and out, no decent pubs beforehand and after...
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 13, 2017 8:32:06 GMT
Uwe is a bad spot for me apart from easier drive in and out, no decent pubs beforehand and after... Part of the plans is we have a club house on site for both sets of supporters
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Post by peterparker on May 13, 2017 8:49:18 GMT
Uwe is a bad spot for me apart from easier drive in and out, no decent pubs beforehand and after... Part of the plans is we have a club house on site for both sets of supporters Yeah but we dont want to give DC a good budget by drinking in the bar 😃
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Post by peterhooper57 on May 13, 2017 9:09:56 GMT
UWE has good access for travel, awful location for supporters no shops, boozers; still disappointed Hamer does not think the supporters are worthy of an update on the ground; tbh its been the same old **** since 86. I thought WAQ would be different in being quite open with whats was going on.
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Post by cookinongas on May 13, 2017 9:10:00 GMT
Its a difficult one for me. Im only 31 so have never witnessed rovers with a decent stadium. But at the same time theres just something about the mem and i prefered the refurb the mem option to the uwe option. Funny thing is i was showing my welsh mates the compilation of bodins goals and they all commented on the roar when a goal goes in and how amazing the atmosphere is. They even went as far as to say they would rather be back at ninian park over where they are now. Yes its a shambles at the moment but we could make it so special. A real home! Not an identikit 'insert name here' stadium Mate, im 60 and ive never witnessed Rovers in a decent stadium!! Eastville was and is still our spiritual home but by today's standards would be condemmed
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Post by cookinongas on May 13, 2017 9:12:39 GMT
UWE has good access for travel, awful location for supporters no shops, boozers; still disappointed Hamer does not think the supporters are worthy of an update on the ground; tbh its been the same old **** since 86. I thought WAQ would be different in being quite open with whats was going on. Have you not been to the Greenhaus or whatever its called?
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Post by Topper Gas on May 13, 2017 11:14:18 GMT
UWE has good access for travel, awful location for supporters no shops, boozers; still disappointed Hamer does not think the supporters are worthy of an update on the ground; tbh its been the same old **** since 86. I thought WAQ would be different in being quite open with whats was going on. "no shops" who worries about shopping when they are going to a football match? If you want snacks/drinks/newspapers etc there's a nearby Asda, not sure what the obsession is with boozers, isn't a couple of pints before and after the game in the club bars sufficient for most fans? We've been told August is the end of the game so apart from Hamer telling us talks are still progressing what update do you expect him to give us?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 11:47:36 GMT
1 to 3, can take or leave UWE, but getting a purposeful stadium is crucial in the next 2-3 years, if we want to kick on.
But this is Bristol, the council couldn't build a sand castle.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 13, 2017 12:08:39 GMT
1 to 3, can take or leave UWE, but getting a purposeful stadium is crucial in the next 2-3 years, if we want to kick on. But this is Bristol, the council couldn't build a sand castle. Nothing to do with the council, we have achieved planning permission for two stadium projects and also highly questionable permission for a supermarket on the mem. The problem is no matter who is in charge, our inability to complete the project based on the amount of money required.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on May 13, 2017 12:26:59 GMT
For the club and its future - 10.
For my personal enjoyment of going to watch Rovers - 1.
I know I'm in the minority amongst Gasheads, but I like the Mem and always have.
I like the mismatched stands that make it unique, I like the location and choice of pubs around the ground, and I love terracing and the atmosphere the Blackthorn can create.
If we get UWE, our club will become sterile and the matchday experience will become sterile. That's not me saying we should stay at the Mem - because clearly that isn't sustainable for us - but when a club moves into a modern all-seater stadium that's just what happens. It seems to be almost unavoidable.
I don't like the copycat bowl design of UWE, I don't like the location, and I'll hate having to sit during games (if there's no end where the stewards turn a blind eye to standing, as they do at a lot of all-seater grounds).
But we need it. I get that.
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Post by Centenary Gas on May 13, 2017 12:47:04 GMT
I would not be disappointed if UWE fell thro This, I just wish it would fall through a bit faster
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 12:56:30 GMT
1 to 3, can take or leave UWE, but getting a purposeful stadium is crucial in the next 2-3 years, if we want to kick on. But this is Bristol, the council couldn't build a sand castle. Nothing to do with the council, we have achieved planning permission for two stadium projects and also highly questionable permission for a supermarket on the mem. The problem is no matter who is in charge, our inability to complete the project based on the amount of money required. Bristol arena, Ashton vale and us, 3 white elephants where a competent amount of foresight and backbone from the council wouldn't have killed those plans dead. It should be in their interest to assist the build of large schemes for the good of the city.
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Post by manorfarmgas on May 13, 2017 13:00:48 GMT
Sincerely, can someone set me straight on why we can't redevelop the Mem? (Sorry if this is well documented and a bore for some). I moved back to Bristol in 2012 after many years abroad and have been loving it back at the Mem. Like the majority of people on this thread, it seems to me inevitable that despite the growth potential afforded by a move to the UWE, the matchday experience would inevitably suffer. No more standing (unless safe standing is adopted); no Glos Rd/chippies/Sporty/Annex/Vic etc etc on the doorstep, miles from town, bowl without atmosphere. Ask yourself whether you prefer the matchday experience at (say) Newport or Oxford. The latter is for me devoid of any sense of occasion or romance or excitement.
There also seems to be a majority on this thread that thinks that losing this is a price worth paying - fair enough, I get the bold 'I say we fly to the moon' agenda even if I'm not 100% on board. What I'm unsure of is why (with Mustafa Millions at the helm) we can't afford a substantial tart-up and expansion of the Mem site. I have heard estimates that 19k+ could be accommodated if capacity were optimised. Not big enough? Insurmountable logistics? Thanks for any knowledge.
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