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Post by titchthephot on May 13, 2017 20:31:36 GMT
I agree with you Gashead 79 but it is part of whole picture. We do need a new stadium..that is the first step, then we, as fans, need to provide the next step - the atmosphere. I don't doubt for one moment that we will do that. The stadium, the new training ground and facilities, the better running of the club, bringing in overseas players (not too many though) which I see has started, can only serve to build our club into a bigger, better team. We have a better set up, we get better players, we watch better football, we get to a higher division, we have better and more fans....and so it goes on and on. Having said all that, I am totally happy watching the Gas at the moment. Probably the best team and staff since the 74/5 season ...and maybe even better than them!
As for you Hugo the Senile.....bastard!!! :-) I bit!!
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Post by Topper Gas on May 13, 2017 21:12:51 GMT
I follow the league one fb page and it's pretty embarrassing reading what fans of other clubs think of us. Just imagine if we were in the championship at the mem. That picture the Sh1!heads post of the two grounds side by side with the words "forever in our shadow" sums it up, painful but true. That's fair enough but a nice ground is only part of the story. Newcastle have a grand stadium but they played a level below Bournemouth last year for example. The shadow that we are in covers pretty much every aspect of football. Probably the reason we're in the shadows more than anything is thanks to the stadium company forcing us out of Eastville then the 82er's getting lucky with Pantsdown, whilst we had Higgs doing his best. We've spent more than a decade at Twerton and then the Mem just trying to survive meanwhile they've been spending money like it's going out of fashion. But if we manage to get the UWE and also retain DC's services for a couple more seasons, then we could well be level pegging on both footballing and infrastructure terms, which would be quite a comeback.
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Post by Icegas on May 14, 2017 17:30:20 GMT
That's fair enough but a nice ground is only part of the story. Newcastle have a grand stadium but they played a level below Bournemouth last year for example. The shadow that we are in covers pretty much every aspect of football. Probably the reason we're in the shadows more than anything is thanks to the stadium company forcing us out of Eastville then the 82er's getting lucky with Pantsdown, whilst we had Higgs doing his best. We've spent more than a decade at Twerton and then the Mem just trying to survive meanwhile they've been spending money like it's going out of fashion. But if we manage to get the UWE and also retain DC's services for a couple more seasons, then we could well be level pegging on both footballing and infrastructure terms, which would be quite a comeback. Sorry can't agree with that. How are we in the shadows? This gap - crap is something people are really starting to believe.It's talked about as if they are Man utd and we are FC Utd. Why?!! During the 16 years the have been the better club,but they have done F#ck all in the world of football as a football club apart from that - one playoff final 2008.Them being ahead of us has nothing to do with BCFC and its growth, but rather BRFC and us failing until 2015. The only thing that they have done is brought bricks and mortar and attracted a season's worth of Bristol Sports season ticket holders which has increase there crowds. We get the UWE then we are on the same level as them in terms of potential in everyway.
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Post by yategas78 on May 14, 2017 20:00:14 GMT
Exactly why the UWE must happen!,
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 20:02:57 GMT
Get one thing straight a redeveloped Mem would have no thatchers terrace it would be a cramped two tier stand. Anything else at present forsakes championship football. That means goodbye DC That means goodbye Al Qadi's That means continuing with bottom six budgets until relegation happens again.
Unless of course a crazy new owner comes along who is happy to throw their millions away year after year after year. Because minimum seating levels are required there would be choice but to convert the thatchers end first. If developing bit by bit with reduced capacities during the process.That not only means no terrace behind the goal but no use of the bars either.
The other option is to share with Cheltenham/city/Swindon/Newport or fgr for a few seasons whilst the whole ground is developed. Which is likely the council would prefer like with the last mem plans.
Though it is typical of Rovers fans...the first time in decades a new stadium is actually likely to happen the fans start saying they don't want it ! You got to laugh.....
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2017 16:52:38 GMT
Previous owners have let the Mem get into such a poor state we've now got no alternative but to move to a new stadium or somehow finance a complete rebuild of the Mem, if we could still get pp for the latter. Not sure where you are coming from Topper. It's alright giving populist arguements, but look at what you are saying. Even allowing for all the monies laid out by Wael, our capacity is 12,500. Or even 11750 due to segregation. What investment should NH or GD have made to generate money? To answer that, you need a business plan. Where is yours. It's alright giving glib answers, but in the real world a lot of planning has to go into major decisions like this. If you could get 18000 into the Mem, where would cars park? Remember that in the event of it being redeveloped, nobody would be able to park within about two miles of the ground as a result of resident only parking permits which by the way had to be funded by us. No, the only answer is that we need UWE or it's equivalent, and I believe this messing around with UWE has gone on long enough. If it's not going to happen then say so and we all move on. As they say, it's the hope that kills you. I missed this post the other day, I was simply suggesting doing no work as meant the whole ground now need rebuilding if we'd rebuilt a stand at a time we'd still have a reasonable ground which is all Bournemouth have, clearly the ALQ hope to move the club onto another level now so having a 13/15K capacity Mem is no longer on the cards.....for now anyway.
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Post by gasincider on May 17, 2017 18:36:40 GMT
I missed this post the other day, I was simply suggesting doing no work as meant the whole ground now need rebuilding if we'd rebuilt a stand at a time we'd still have a reasonable ground which is all Bournemouth have, clearly the ALQ hope to move the club onto another level now so having a 13/15K capacity Mem is no longer on the cards.....for now anyway. It was never feasible to even build one stand at a time. Who would pay for them? More to the point how would we repay whoever funded it? Remember, the Mem has never been nor will ever be in a position to provide additional revenue streams. That was the whole point, and NH and GD both knew that. It was always going to be a case of using the Mem as a deposit on an appropriate alternative. Let's hope it's the UWE.
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