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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 11:31:48 GMT
I didnt write off burn,pilkington,moore and hartley simply pointed out they were not top players last season. Umm ...........Why do you keep calling him Pilkington? Hes played so few times i forgot his name was partington |
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Post by Marshy on May 25, 2017 11:38:02 GMT
Has pilkington got a glass eye? He used to be a tiler, I will keep an eye out for him next year. |
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Post by warehamgas on May 25, 2017 11:52:09 GMT
Last season we recruited byron moore,peter hartley,johnny burn and pilkington on permanent deals,none of them could be considered top players for the club last season. we loaned in roberts,roos,james,clarke-salter,colkett and boateng in pre-season,i would argue all of them were poor. Sweeney and lumley were loaned in during the january window and were very effective. leadbitter,brown,lockyer,sinclair,bodin,lines and o clarke are the most consistent performers at the club and along with matty taylor and the 2 brilliant january loans made sure we finished above halfway. I think our recruitment needs to be much much better if we are going to even equal last seasons position. Maybe, but ultimately we finished 10th last year which was a great achievement and the club took another significant step forward. DC got it right in his first window to such an extent that he has only needed small additions since. One of those small additions (Bodin) turned out to be our biggest asset. He didn't hit the ground running. Why are Partington, Burn, Hartley and Moore written off when it is clear that our coaching staff have done wonders over the last few years. I expect all 4 to contribute next season now they know what the club and DC's expectations are. We need a few quality additions to challenge but DC has acknowledged this. Why does he get such little credit for the 2 brilliant loans? Those two were amongst the last players he brought to the club and he got them right. Does that not constitute good recruitment? Did JCS, Boateng and Colkett not have undoubted quality? I think they did but were ultimately a little lacking in attitude and steel. Not awful signings in my view and they all contributed. We can go on fretting and hammering on the same point if we like but I don't see the need to be so negative. DC is a brilliant manager who has shown a remarkable knack of adapting quickly with each step up. He's had a season at this level now and will have a far greater idea of what is needed in League 1 now. In the last 3 seasons we have moved up the league far more cumulative places than any other club. An amazing achievement. Could we really have done this without the recruitment being right for this football club? Ward, McGhee and Buckle have shown what damage can really be done by recruiting the wrong players. There is far more skill and thought to good recruitment than plucking a few obvious names out of a hat, particularly at this level. Careful 2nd, your common sense and ability to see the overall success of DC and Rovers won't go down well with those wanting us to sign any player who becomes available! UTG! |
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Post by spiess1 on May 25, 2017 12:30:54 GMT
"those wanting us to sign any player who becomes available!"
or even EVERY player who becomes available!
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Post by markczgas on May 25, 2017 13:16:23 GMT
Last season we recruited byron moore,peter hartley,johnny burn and pilkington on permanent deals,none of them could be considered top players for the club last season. we loaned in roberts,roos,james,clarke-salter,colkett and boateng in pre-season,i would argue all of them were poor. Sweeney and lumley were loaned in during the january window and were very effective. leadbitter,brown,lockyer,sinclair,bodin,lines and o clarke are the most consistent performers at the club and along with matty taylor and the 2 brilliant january loans made sure we finished above halfway. I think our recruitment needs to be much much better if we are going to even equal last seasons position. Maybe, but ultimately we finished 10th last year which was a great achievement and the club took another significant step forward. DC got it right in his first window to such an extent that he has only needed small additions since. One of those small additions (Bodin) turned out to be our biggest asset. He didn't hit the ground running. Why are Partington, Burn, Hartley and Moore written off when it is clear that our coaching staff have done wonders over the last few years. I expect all 4 to contribute next season now they know what the club and DC's expectations are. We need a few quality additions to challenge but DC has acknowledged this. Why does he get such little credit for the 2 brilliant loans? Those two were amongst the last players he brought to the club and he got them right. Does that not constitute good recruitment? Did JCS, Boateng and Colkett not have undoubted quality? I think they did but were ultimately a little lacking in attitude and steel. Not awful signings in my view and they all contributed. We can go on fretting and hammering on the same point if we like but I don't see the need to be so negative. DC is a brilliant manager who has shown a remarkable knack of adapting quickly with each step up. He's had a season at this level now and will have a far greater idea of what is needed in League 1 now. In the last 3 seasons we have moved up the league far more cumulative places than any other club. An amazing achievement. Could we really have done this without the recruitment being right for this football club? Ward, McGhee and Buckle have shown what damage can really be done by recruiting the wrong players. There is far more skill and thought to good recruitment than plucking a few obvious names out of a hat, particularly at this level. How confident are you that we'll finish higher next season ? and why :-) ? |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 25, 2017 14:10:24 GMT
Maybe, but ultimately we finished 10th last year which was a great achievement and the club took another significant step forward. DC got it right in his first window to such an extent that he has only needed small additions since. One of those small additions (Bodin) turned out to be our biggest asset. He didn't hit the ground running. Why are Partington, Burn, Hartley and Moore written off when it is clear that our coaching staff have done wonders over the last few years. I expect all 4 to contribute next season now they know what the club and DC's expectations are. We need a few quality additions to challenge but DC has acknowledged this. Why does he get such little credit for the 2 brilliant loans? Those two were amongst the last players he brought to the club and he got them right. Does that not constitute good recruitment? Did JCS, Boateng and Colkett not have undoubted quality? I think they did but were ultimately a little lacking in attitude and steel. Not awful signings in my view and they all contributed. We can go on fretting and hammering on the same point if we like but I don't see the need to be so negative. DC is a brilliant manager who has shown a remarkable knack of adapting quickly with each step up. He's had a season at this level now and will have a far greater idea of what is needed in League 1 now. In the last 3 seasons we have moved up the league far more cumulative places than any other club. An amazing achievement. Could we really have done this without the recruitment being right for this football club? Ward, McGhee and Buckle have shown what damage can really be done by recruiting the wrong players. There is far more skill and thought to good recruitment than plucking a few obvious names out of a hat, particularly at this level. How confident are you that we'll finish higher next season ? and why :-) ? I am a realist. I'm confident that the team can continue to move forward. Is this measured purely by League position? We could finish 12th at the end of the season and feel more secure as a league 1 club with a solid foundation to push on. I am hopeful, rather than confident, that we can improve on our league position again, provided we retain DC and our coaching staff. The reason for this is that we are clearly a progressive team, our players are very fit, fight for the shirt and are tactically adaptable. Our manager has a great record of improving players. On top of this, we are clearly going to improve our squad, and the type of players we need are clearly identifiable to fit into and improve the settled core we have. If I was to place a bet I would say we will equal what we did this season, but for me, once again that will be an excellent season's work. That, allied with a green light for the stadium and the training ground being realised, would put us in a great position to then kick on. |
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Post by peterparker on May 25, 2017 17:43:37 GMT
All i would say is find the Peterborough owners thoughts on early transfers
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 25, 2017 18:50:00 GMT
Last season we recruited byron moore,peter hartley,johnny burn and pilkington on permanent deals,none of them could be considered top players for the club last season. we loaned in roberts,roos,james,clarke-salter,colkett and boateng in pre-season,i would argue all of them were poor. Sweeney and lumley were loaned in during the january window and were very effective. leadbitter,brown,lockyer,sinclair,bodin,lines and o clarke are the most consistent performers at the club and along with matty taylor and the 2 brilliant january loans made sure we finished above halfway. I think our recruitment needs to be much much better if we are going to even equal last seasons position. Maybe, but ultimately we finished 10th last year which was a great achievement and the club took another significant step forward. DC got it right in his first window to such an extent that he has only needed small additions since. One of those small additions (Bodin) turned out to be our biggest asset. He didn't hit the ground running. Why are Partington, Burn, Hartley and Moore written off when it is clear that our coaching staff have done wonders over the last few years. I expect all 4 to contribute next season now they know what the club and DC's expectations are. We need a few quality additions to challenge but DC has acknowledged this. Why does he get such little credit for the 2 brilliant loans? Those two were amongst the last players he brought to the club and he got them right. Does that not constitute good recruitment? Did JCS, Boateng and Colkett not have undoubted quality? I think they did but were ultimately a little lacking in attitude and steel. Not awful signings in my view and they all contributed. We can go on fretting and hammering on the same point if we like but I don't see the need to be so negative. DC is a brilliant manager who has shown a remarkable knack of adapting quickly with each step up. He's had a season at this level now and will have a far greater idea of what is needed in League 1 now. In the last 3 seasons we have moved up the league far more cumulative places than any other club. An amazing achievement. Could we really have done this without the recruitment being right for this football club? Ward, McGhee and Buckle have shown what damage can really be done by recruiting the wrong players. There is far more skill and thought to good recruitment than plucking a few obvious names out of a hat, particularly at this level. Great post. Up until I read that I had that heart sink feeling of oh no, the same old stuff again. Nice one |
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Post by yategas78 on May 25, 2017 18:57:40 GMT
All i would say is find the Peterborough owners thoughts on early transfers Very true you can't hang about nowadays we just got to hope DC has already done the ground work and he will get his man/men UTG👍 |
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Post by markczgas on May 25, 2017 19:15:30 GMT
2nd of May - I agree with a lot of what you wrote. the only thing I'm not sure about is the - Im sure we'll improve the squad bit.
We lost Taylor in January and didn't replace him. We may well lose Bodin next. I haven't seen any signs that we are going to replace Taylor with s similar standard player - early days you'll say but how much of that 300K will actually go back into the team ?
Yes DC gets very good value for money from many signings BUT to even improve on 10th we'll need Lumley, Sweeney, get a Taylor-type quality replacement and keep Bodin.
Think the league will be hard (maybe harder) with Bradford still there and the 3 promoted from L2 in it now.
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Post by peterparker on May 25, 2017 19:33:16 GMT
All i would say is find the Peterborough owners thoughts on early transfers Very true you can't hang about nowadays we just got to hope DC has already done the ground work and he will get his man/men UTG👍 He was saying guys want stupid money early summer before realisation hits home and clubs shouldnt be rushing in and paying over the top |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 25, 2017 19:43:18 GMT
2nd of May - I agree with a lot of what you wrote. the only thing I'm not sure about is the - Im sure we'll improve the squad bit. We lost Taylor in January and didn't replace him. We may well lose Bodin next. I haven't seen any signs that we are going to replace Taylor with s similar standard player - early days you'll say but how much of that 300K will actually go back into the team ? Yes DC gets very good value for money from many signings BUT to even improve on 10th we'll need Lumley, Sweeney, get a Taylor-type quality replacement and keep Bodin. Think the league will be hard (maybe harder) with Bradford still there and the 3 promoted from L2 in it now.I don't get that view as losing Sheff Utd & Bolton must mean the division, in terms of the top 6, can't be any harder next season, the bottom 3 from Div 1 are hardly big clubs and only Pompey could be stronger than us next season coming up from Div 2. Plus we didn't lose to Bradford last season so they are hardly a team for us to fear, if DC is given a decent budget we could well make the top 6, even top 3, next May. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 20:59:36 GMT
Luke Daniels has signed for Brentford ....
We are heavily linked with Jack Bonham who was their second choice keeper .... watch this space !!
Interesting as well that Scunthorpes squad is being dismantled ....I wonder if there might be opportunity for us in there..... Paddy Madden would be an asset!!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 22:54:43 GMT
Im sure a lot of signings that are made are based upon the player coming good the second season and just "adapting"
in the first season. Im kind of expecting a mix of elder statesmen and next season potentials to be signed.
The biggest hurdle to overcome though is will the Trinity cope and perform as well now one of them has left...steve yates.
How big a part was he in the unity and togetherness of the squad ?
DC has always said the squad is bigger than one person, and demonstrated how the team got as many points without the snake
as they did with him.That was a loss to the playing side ,does the same apply to the backroom boys ?
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Post by warehamgas on May 25, 2017 23:32:11 GMT
Luke Daniels has signed for Brentford .... We are heavily linked with Jack Bonham who was their second choice keeper .... watch this space !! Interesting as well that Scunthorpes squad is being dismantled ....I wonder if there might be opportunity for us in there..... Paddy Madden would be an asset!! Yes. With Bury and others making some good signings Scunthorpe have lost a number of good players after a great season. People on here are complaining about us not making any signings yet but at least our squad hasn't lost any important members, yet. I bet the Scunthorpe fans are getting a bit worried and your idea about Madden might be a good one. UTG! |
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Post by socrates on May 26, 2017 21:38:23 GMT
How confident are you that we'll finish higher next season ? and why :-) ? I am a realist. I'm confident that the team can continue to move forward. Is this measured purely by League position? We could finish 12th at the end of the season and feel more secure as a league 1 club with a solid foundation to push on. I am hopeful, rather than confident, that we can improve on our league position again, provided we retain DC and our coaching staff. The reason for this is that we are clearly a progressive team, our players are very fit, fight for the shirt and are tactically adaptable. Our manager has a great record of improving players. On top of this, we are clearly going to improve our squad, and the type of players we need are clearly identifiable to fit into and improve the settled core we have. If I was to place a bet I would say we will equal what we did this season, but for me, once again that will be an excellent season's work. That, allied with a green light for the stadium and the training ground being realised, would put us in a great position to then kick on. Exactly as I see it. There are no certainties about next season for any supporter of any club but but I personally have many reasons to believe that we'll push on and keep improving and I can't think of one reason why we'd move backwards as long as DC is still in charge. My glass isn't half full it's three quarters full and I'm not a rose tinter I'm going on what I see. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 26, 2017 22:09:03 GMT
DC also said he had his targets a good while ago. No one has any patience
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 22:11:41 GMT
DC also said he had his targets a good while ago. No one has any patience I think boredom is setting in a bit earlier what with our season finishing sooner than the last few seasons. I might take an extended break for a month or so on here, I doubt ill miss much. |
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Post by socrates on May 26, 2017 23:57:24 GMT
DC also said he had his targets a good while ago. No one has any patience I think boredom is setting in a bit earlier what with our season finishing sooner than the last few seasons. I might take an extended break for a month or so on here, I doubt ill miss much. I think your right. We all want to see our next squad in action as soon as possible picking up three points in a competitive game and flying up the league but the reality is the season hasn't started yet, Pre-season hasn't started and we're all missing it but that doesn't mean DC or WQ are doing anything right or wrong. Truth is we don't know what they're doing because we're supporters and supporters see what's happening as it happens not when it's in the pipeline, everything else is rumours guesswork and frustration because we're missing the beautiful game. |
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Post by Marshy on May 27, 2017 4:02:25 GMT
DC also said he had his targets a good while ago. No one has any patience I think boredom is setting in a bit earlier what with our season finishing sooner than the last few seasons. I might take an extended break for a month or so on here, I doubt ill miss much. Yeah that's not a bad shout last minute, but if you ban yourself for a month it will be like going to a titty bar. You can look but you can't touch! |
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