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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 1:43:16 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._ClausHer name changes nothing to the point does it? Wikipedia is not the best source but good enough given it's nearly 1am and I've got to be up for work at 4:30am. It was a joke, a play on word to bring a bit of levity. Is it Santa, Kriss Kringle, St Nick, Father Christmas? Does he live at the North Pole, Lapland, somewhere else? Does he wear red or green? Does he drive 8 reindeer or 9? Which night of the year does he come? The point he is a mythical character whose story changes over years, similar tales actually predate Christianity. Nobody has copyright and it can (and has been) retold in different versions. Your own link states "The wife of Santa Claus is first mentioned in the short story "A Christmas Legend" (1849), by James Rees, a Philadelphia-based Christian missionary" so relatively recent. I doubt that children care either way, just adults. Also, it's just an advert. Fair play, I respect alittle humor but it did bypass me at the time. It's a tradition tho. It's what many years of people have been brought up with and it shouldn't be changed for any reason.And it wouldn't happen or would it be changed if it was anything to do with ramadam,or Shabbat or the chinese new year would it? And Can you honestly say that it would? And for some Woke/millennial leftie to think we are going to make father Christmas gay this year is completely wrong even in a advent. And again.Im not homophobic, nor Christian here just voicing my opinion.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 0:46:23 GMT
With respect, using the excuse and term of prejudice is a cop out here. During our lifetime Santa has been a straight man, a father figure that came out once a year and delivered gifts on Xmas Eve.The rest of the year he lived with Mrs. Claus. Now in 2021 some person decided to make him gay and change a christian culture icon into something to fit in with there woke mindset for browny points on TV. BTW... I don't follow any religion, just pointing out the hypocrisy and arrogance to do such a thing. His wife is called Mary Christmas. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._ClausHer name changes nothing to the point does it? Wikipedia is not the best source but good enough given it's nearly 1am and I've got to be up for work at 4:30am.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 0:24:13 GMT
I'm sorry I'm not homophobic,and I do care less if you care to enjoy the man strudel if you are male in your own time. But please do not try to re-write bloody history with a make believe character that millions of children believe in still, when and as you feel the need to, that changes many years of what children were brought up on. The leftie's have 100% lost they're Dam minds!!!! Talking about a new way of Santa emptying his sack! Would you see Allah or a prophet doing this on UK or asian TV? no you wouldn't.It's a disgrace.. Honestly Awlful. www.theguardian.com/media/video/2021/nov/24/norwegian-christmas-advert-goes-viral-as-santa-claus-gets-a-boyfriend-video Your choice of words tend to belie your lack of prejudice here. He's a fictional character based on Saint Nicholas and Sinterklaas while the advert is to celebrate the 50th anniversary of legalisation next year. Even the Daily Mail called it a 'tear jerker'. No issues here for me, it's a lovely piece. With respect, using the excuse and term of prejudice is a cop out here. During our lifetime Santa has been a straight man, a father figure that came out once a year and delivered gifts on Xmas Eve.The rest of the year he lived with Mrs. Claus. Now in 2021 some person decided to make him gay and change a christian culture icon into something to fit in with there woke mindset for browny points on TV. BTW... I don't follow any religion, just pointing out the hypocrisy and arrogance to do such a thing.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 0:10:55 GMT
Can’t we just ban this bloody idiot ? 🙄 Ban me Why Hitler...? Ban me for what, free speech? I pointed out my reasons and that I'm not homophobic, so any offence you feel is yours not mine.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 24, 2021 22:13:19 GMT
I'm sorry I'm not homophobic,and I do care less if you care to enjoy the man strudel if you are male in your own time. But please do not try to re-write bloody history with a make believe character that millions of children believe in still, when and as you feel the need to, that changes many years of what children were brought up on. The leftie's have 100% lost they're Dam minds!!!! Talking about a new way of Santa emptying his sack! Would you see Allah or a prophet doing this on UK or asian TV? no you wouldn't.It's a disgrace.. Honestly Awlful. www.theguardian.com/media/video/2021/nov/24/norwegian-christmas-advert-goes-viral-as-santa-claus-gets-a-boyfriend-video
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Post by Icegas on Nov 24, 2021 0:18:42 GMT
Just listened to JB post match interview. I'm praying that he is inocent of his case's this next month,in particular the wife case and does not do jail time. He has really turned the corner and dispute what many think of him on here he has done nothing wrong towards the club since taking over. I feel if he is still in charge post Xmas and next season we will 100% go up with him in charge and push on again.I think now, he is doing a fine job and backing up his words of it taking time or the group to gel, dispute dropped points tonight and against Tranmere. Not sure if you are trolling or what!? "he has done nothing wrong towards the club since taking over", apart from throwing in the towel last season and giving up, then guiding us to 14th in the basement division with a pathetic overall record of 9 wins in 40 games. Fingers crossed he gets sent down and no other club have to suffer his delusions of grandeur and sh** management. I've got 1600 posts on this forum but yes, I'm a troll...lol I didn't like the end towards last season and as you said about throwing the towel in, but he has started to turn things around over the last 10 games as he stated could happen one players bedded in. He talks with respect about our club,it's potential and fanbase and now is starting to get results.Tonight was a victory performance, but lack of concentration and finishing cost us the points. I'm willing to give him the chance. The players are clearly playing for him and the shirt.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 23:38:13 GMT
Just listened to JB post match interview.
I'm praying that he is inocent of his case's this next month,in particular the wife case and does not do jail time.
He has really turned the corner and dispute what many think of him on here he has done nothing wrong towards the club since taking over.
I feel if he is still in charge post Xmas and next season we will 100% go up with him in charge and push on again.I think now, he is doing a fine job and backing up his words of it taking time or the group to gel, dispute dropped points tonight and against Tranmere.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 23:04:28 GMT
So you admit that there have been. Cover-ups by the BBC then? Or at least could have been given you're knowledge today? And to answer you're question...f**k yeah they are my friend! But why would you ask that? Again is that because you've painted a picture in your head of what you think I am rather than what I really am? I'm not a fan of any political party of today until they start telling the truth and stop being career politicians. Just because I have the views that I do doesn't mean I'm a Tory! And I'm not staying that you think I am. Lol No, where have I said that? I don't know if they're corrupt. My instinct is that they're not, but I guess it depends on your definition of corrupt. As per the Oxford dictionary, "willing to use their power to do dishonest or illegal things in return for money or to get an advantage". On that basis I wouldn't say the BBC is corrupt, there may be some individuals who are in the organisation, but how many people in an organisation need to be corrupt before the organisation is corrupt? Genuine question btw. On the 2nd point, I ask that because pretty much every Tory supporter/right winger on here (if you are one) has defended and denied any wrong doing by the Tories at every step. The only instance I can actually think of where anyone admitted they weren't 100% perfect, was when FranceGas threw Cummings under the bus. So rather than you specifically, it's more the perception of those on here that have scarred me. Apologies if I've put you into that box incorrectly. Btw - I think the reason as well I assumed you were is whenever someone complains about 'lefties', its usually because they're 'righties' The last comment is one that I can understand but it's not true in my case. I'm a fan of common sense and respect for my fellow human.Be them black, white, Christian, Muslim, gay or straight...Etc It all means the same to me. 20 years ago I would have been more of an old school labour.But they are now not what they were and seem anti anything British and are not the Labour of old. I agree with some of the current Tory's views/policies of today, but I'm in no way a Tory.lol My heart and soul is just, and I mean only just right of center - but that's only because I believe in being proud of where you and proud of your country. I'm just anti the PC brigade and the slander that they come out with when you don't agree with what they say. The extreme Left are more dangerous than the far right of today.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 22:31:52 GMT
I used the choice of words with "Minor" insults towards you due to being branded a racist for bringing this subject up, and when I have got involved you or Yatton, forgive me I can't remember which one of you it was, then starts picking up on things that I said on different threads a year ago about greta thunberg and other things that has no relevance to this subject,and it's only done to have a dig and pigeon whole me as a racist, sexist which has been done before. I find that childish and pointless,but there is no need to go to level of me name calling so I apologize for that. I loved a debate, welcome other people's opinions.I don't want you or anyone to come around to my way of thinking if you don't agree,but if you don't agree then don't just brand someone something they are not. I'm not livid,or angry about them not reporting it, I just want fairness and if you don't believe that the BBC wouldn't have covered this story, or that there wouldn't be marches on our streets for BLM or woman's rights if this was a white NFL player that attacked his black GF then I disagree with you,and think that's very naive. As for BBC being corrupt. Jimmy savile... They knew and hid for years that he was a Pedophile which has now come out now. John Sweeney - Got caught by a undercover reporter (while getting her drunk) that he was willing to lie about Tommy Robinson and clip things TR had said to fit in with Sweeney's hit job on Parorama story on Tommy Robinson.Sweeney lost his job of 17 years due to this. You go onto BBC jobsite and look at some of there job roles and it's says in pretty much black and white that if you are white please do not apply for this position for disversity reasons. The BBC are a vile company and I find it a disgrace that they have not covered this story given that both involved are famous. I would be interested to see a link to these job roles please? I don't know much on the Saville saga tbh, but I'll take your word for it. But just for fun, if you consider the BBC corrupt based on the cover-up, would you admit that the current Tory government is corrupt? So you admit that there have been. Cover-ups by the BBC then? Or at least could have been given you're knowledge today? And to answer you're question...f**k yeah they are my friend! But why would you ask that? Again is that because you've painted a picture in your head of what you think I am rather than what I really am? I'm not a fan of any political party of today until they start telling the truth and stop being career politicians. Just because I have the views that I do doesn't mean I'm a Tory! And I'm not staying that you think I am. Lol
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 21:57:21 GMT
So we were amazing first half and shocking the 2nd.
Think where we were last season and even two months ago.The boys and JB have turned this around, and after a quarter of the season we are in position to push on.
That Pitman goal never looked offside,I know we have dropped 4pts in the last few days but if we continue playing like we have apart from this 2nd half then we will be in the mix come may.
Good signs,we have a team there.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 21:45:00 GMT
I don't know what to say...
While Oxford was soulraiser, this could be the opposite.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 17:49:53 GMT
Yatton, with respect I don't know what posting a link to a "Tommy Robinsonfacts" site will add to this discussion..? Other then you trying to make a point? I don't know who created that site but I would suggest that by calling it "Facts" then its properly done by someone anti Robinson.. also how do we know that all those "facts" are indeed true? I know he has been no angle, 100% but people calling him far right is wrong.He left the EDL because they were being taken over by the far right loons and thugs,and no longer stood for what it was created for. I had the same opinion of him that many others do, when Tommy first came onto the scene and saw what the BBC and main stream media portrayed him as and I also believed it,. - A racist thug that hates non whites. But then I chose to look more into him and saw that he was just a guy trying to defend this country and expose Muslim grooming gangs, and corrupt media outlets like the BBC.There is alot of depth to him and he is very knowledgeable on the subjects he talks about, much more so than you or me. He caught the BBC and Sweeney out on his own, and the link in here if you care to watch it.Which I sadly doubt you will ,as most use the exsuse of I'm not going to waste my time of that racist scumbag..etc when it comes to a subject they doesn't agree with. But if yourself or others post links to something anti Robinson, anti Brexit or anti Trump via BBC, Sky, CNN etc it's gospel, and we are racist hate filled thugs that are evil.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 13:31:55 GMT
Proof of what? Woke...Lol Snowflake...lol - give me a milkyway! You are having a laugh, right? I'm not angry.You keep saying that but I'm not, I'm just open to debate so engaging.Nothing more. As for people marching in Bristol for a black girl being beat up by her white BF in the USA..and you implying that it wouldn't happen.. Of course they would, and your a thick f**ker if you think they wouldn't. They did over a scumbag called George Floyd and pulled a statue down in his honor in our own town center, even tho he was a piece of human garbage, and lady gardens are still kneeling in owe of him a year later. So are you telling me that the world,as well as our leftie City would not go mad over a white male smashing a black girl to pieces? Talk about being brain washed. Anyway we are getting no where so I will remove myself from this conversation. Proof that it has happened before, proof the BBC are corrupt etc. I’ve asked you before for proof and you haven’t produced. You can’t say you’re calm when you’ve tried to insult me multiple times by calling me a twat & thick f**ker. You also lose the right to call Yatton judgemental when clearly as soon as you’re challenged you get aggressive. Let’s look at the facts: BBC didn’t report on a nothing story from the US. White man online gets livid because the abuser was black and the victim was white and posts that this should be in a racial abuse thread. When challenged, said man gets angry, swears, insults and aggressive because people disagree with his viewpoint. I would say that is pretty much the literal definition of a snowflake. So yes, I’d suggest that you do remove yourself from this conversation. I used the choice of words with "Minor" insults towards you due to being branded a racist for bringing this subject up, and when I have got involved you or Yatton, forgive me I can't remember which one of you it was, then starts picking up on things that I said on different threads a year ago about greta thunberg and other things that has no relevance to this subject,and it's only done to have a dig and pigeon whole me as a racist, sexist which has been done before. I find that childish and pointless,but there is no need to go to level of me name calling so I apologize for that. I loved a debate, welcome other people's opinions.I don't want you or anyone to come around to my way of thinking if you don't agree,but if you don't agree then don't just brand someone something they are not. I'm not livid,or angry about them not reporting it, I just want fairness and if you don't believe that the BBC wouldn't have covered this story, or that there wouldn't be marches on our streets for BLM or woman's rights if this was a white NFL player that attacked his black GF then I disagree with you,and think that's very naive. As for BBC being corrupt. Jimmy savile... They knew and hid for years that he was a Pedophile which has now come out now. John Sweeney - Got caught by a undercover reporter (while getting her drunk) that he was willing to lie about Tommy Robinson and clip things TR had said to fit in with Sweeney's hit job on Parorama story on Tommy Robinson.Sweeney lost his job of 17 years due to this. You go onto BBC jobsite and look at some of there job roles and it's says in pretty much black and white that if you are white please do not apply for this position for disversity reasons. The BBC are a vile company and I find it a disgrace that they have not covered this story given that both involved are famous.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 0:21:49 GMT
Yes I believe that this can and has happened. They report what they want. Example, some of Trump's remarks were twisted even tho there is blatant proof of the thing he originally said and what BBC reported. Then there is reporting of Tommy Robinson from a few years ago, I was a follower of his stuff and the BBC reported what was different to the true facts at times. ( Before anyone gets smart and asks for links, google yourself) If you can honestly say that if Zac Stacey was a white guy and beat up his Black GF that the BBC and other main stream media would not report it and would not be all over it, and that there wouldnt be marches by lefies on our very own streets then I will say no more as that would be complete bolloxs. Ok, except you dont have any proof and unfortunately haven't had any at all so far really. You think people would march through Bristol in protest if a random white guy beat his black girl friend? I mean the whole fact that you're so angry that you're claiming the BBC is corrupt all because they didn't write a story on a nothing story from the US, is pretty snowflake and/or woke behaviour tbh Proof of what? Woke...Lol Snowflake...lol - give me a milkyway! You are having a laugh, right? I'm not angry.You keep saying that but I'm not, I'm just open to debate so engaging.Nothing more. As for people marching in Bristol for a black girl being beat up by her white BF in the USA..and you implying that it wouldn't happen.. Of course they would, and your a thick f**ker if you think they wouldn't. They did over a scumbag called George Floyd and pulled a statue down in his honor in our own town center, even tho he was a piece of human garbage, and lady gardens are still kneeling in owe of him a year later. So are you telling me that the world,as well as our leftie City would not go mad over a white male smashing a black girl to pieces? Talk about being brain washed. Anyway we are getting no where so I will remove myself from this conversation.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 23, 2021 0:06:42 GMT
Surprise surprise, you were a follower of Tommy ten names . I’d never of guessed 🙄 What does that mean? NailseaGas..!? Again, slanderous and judgemental.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 22, 2021 19:18:43 GMT
Also how have Fulham be able to rebuild there stadium in an amazing way over the years in a footprint pretty much the same as the Mem in an area that is more difficult and expensive ( I guess ) to build on then the Mem?
Also from Google they don't have any car parking either..
Never been there, so I don't know..
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Post by Icegas on Nov 22, 2021 19:00:08 GMT
Also doesn't Fulham have temp stands at there ground? Only had a quick look at that video due to time but is that a permanent new stand or temp one? Also when I brought up Fulham I meant the stands behind the goals as from what I remember when they first got to the premier those stands went up very quick and I remember something being said about them being temp stands.. I might be wrong though. Craven Cottage is my favorite new build stadium in the country and it has the same charm and character as the Mem compared to modern stadiums. BTW I know the Mem needs nuking and rebuilding but it has more charm and Character coming out it's 57th tent stand then most of these soulless new bowls of today. I hate to admit it, but the two best new build stadiums of today are Fulhams and Ashton Gate. Built modern,yet kept there old school feel.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 22, 2021 14:10:31 GMT
View AttachmentLonger it goes on the more dated the Mem becomes so not sure how much longer we can ignore our current ground.Appreciate that paying for a new stand could be seen as a waste of money but as I have suggested earlier,we could install a stand or two which could be sold on when the time comes. At an Open Day many moons ago,Geoff Dunford told us the Dribuild was being extended the whole length of the pitch and the full width of where the South Tent has been for well over 20 years.It just goes on forever whilst other clubs throughout the land get on and enhance or rebuild theirs. Won't see it in my lifetime but there was a UWE Facebook page and it was intended to install a Webcam so that those of us who worship from afar could see how it was progressing. Fantasy plays a big part in life and it's taken me a while to accept that is exactly what a new stadium is.Pure fantasy.This is a temporary stand at Worcester Rugby. I honestly can't see why a stand like that couldn't be put up at the south stand end of the Mem and the Blue one knocked down and replaced with something similar,not like our tents but wosters.Only short term but the capacity increase would be maybe 4/5k? Also doesn't Fulham have temp stands at there ground?
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Post by Icegas on Nov 22, 2021 14:09:05 GMT
View AttachmentLonger it goes on the more dated the Mem becomes so not sure how much longer we can ignore our current ground.Appreciate that paying for a new stand could be seen as a waste of money but as I have suggested earlier,we could install a stand or two which could be sold on when the time comes. At an Open Day many moons ago,Geoff Dunford told us the Dribuild was being extended the whole length of the pitch and the full width of where the South Tent has been for well over 20 years.It just goes on forever whilst other clubs throughout the land get on and enhance or rebuild theirs. Won't see it in my lifetime but there was a UWE Facebook page and it was intended to install a Webcam so that those of us who worship from afar could see how it was progressing. Fantasy plays a big part in life and it's taken me a while to accept that is exactly what a new stadium is.Pure fantasy.This is a temporary stand at Worcester Rugby. I honestly can't see why a stand like that couldn't be put up at the south stand end of the Mem and the Blue one knocked down and replaced with something similar,not like our tents but wosters.Only short term but the capacity increase would be maybe 4/5k?
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Post by Icegas on Nov 22, 2021 13:42:29 GMT
Why would we rent at the FM.Its a genuine question as I must of missed that information as I thought we would own it. Not own it long lease as I understand, which for me ain't that attractive, we could be homeless at some stage, and not receive all the potential match day revenue. What like Coventry did?
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