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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 1, 2021 12:27:32 GMT
Neil Cox is free.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 31, 2021 11:25:06 GMT
He's affecting my Dam mental health. Maybe he was trained in China, where any deviation from the government line is viewed as treason. He would, most likely, feel very comfortable there, but Confucius might disturb his equilibrium. Confucius say "By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest" Barton cannot even spell reflection, is technically incapable of imitation and we, or some of us have, learned by the bitter experience of his time with us. Rumi vs Confucius, who is better, only one way to find out, have a good think about it.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 31, 2021 11:14:50 GMT
It's not positive. Read the post again, it's rich having a go at other fans, criticising their mindset, calling them negative, saying they're against success (as if you can call bottom half of league2 success), calling them (implicitly) losers, telling them they're wallowing in failure and disappointment. It's one of the most negative posts we've had on here. Rich seems to think if you just say you're being positive you can be as negative and critical of others as you like. It's bullshit. he's one of the most negative people on here, but he drops the word positive into posts like it's a magic spell. He's nearly as deluded and solipsistic as JB. Well said AF. I was going to say the same thing, but when I did previously he claimed I was affecting his mental health. He's affecting my Dam mental health.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 31, 2021 11:02:49 GMT
Good morning everyone, There is so much to be positive about this morning. It is hard to see negatives unless you have a negative mindset looking to throw cold water on success. Yesterday was a disciplined professional performance that people around me were delighted with. Connor Taylor was absolutely outstanding, all ran their socks off for this club. It was so enthusing to be around our fans who played their part in our success against a free flowing Harrogate team. No doubt great result. We are making progress. Some live life looking back at incidents and points of failure and wallowing in the disappointment. Winners quickly learn and improve. They nearly always spend looking forward at next challenge. A mentality of looking forward and we might surprise ourselves. Let’s see where we are at Christmas. We might have something to celebrate. I’m as motivated as I could be about this teams steady improvement. The improvement is clear for all to see. Great if people choose to be positive, but doesnt change the fact the next round of the circus is just around the corner It's not positive. Read the post again, it's rich having a go at other fans, criticising their mindset, calling them negative, saying they're against success (as if you can call bottom half of league2 success), calling them (implicitly) losers, telling them they're wallowing in failure and disappointment. It's one of the most negative posts we've had on here. Rich seems to think if you just say you're being positive you can be as negative and critical of others as you like. It's bullshit. he's one of the most negative people on here, but he drops the word positive into posts like it's a magic spell. He's nearly as deluded and solipsistic as JB.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 29, 2021 10:58:45 GMT
Who has said it was bad enough to be charged by the FA? No one on here that I recall. well every1 is making a fuss Are you suggesting that the FA only charges fuss-able actions or only fuss-able actions are charged by the FA?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 29, 2021 10:20:19 GMT
if what joey barton has said is really that bad why isnt he charged by the f.a? Who has said it was bad enough to be charged by the FA? No one on here that I recall.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 29, 2021 7:56:18 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2021 18:47:42 GMT
Yes, you could, but you'd be using it metaphorically. I'm not whinging I was one of the first on here to defend JB for it, so you're wrong about that. I'm whinging, I suppose, about your use of 'correct context' coz it doesn't really mean anything coz JB was using the word metaphorically. I wouldn't bother AF. He'll just selective read and post something completely irrelevant to what you just said. What, on Gaschat?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2021 18:40:35 GMT
Yeah, but just looking up possible synonyms on the web doesn't really help otherwise I could say the Elysium is pornographic, and expect you to understand that I meant the sky is blue. So words that are synonymous in one context aren't in another. And as my example above illustrates it doesn't take many steps to come up with gibberish. So, it's still pretty clear that JB used the expression metaphorically and not literally. Yes … except Holocaust is… if you’ve had a disastrous year or catastrophic year .. you could lightly compare it to such- it would offend a lot of people clearly, but so what, it’s synonymous and fits in context, whichever angle you take, that’s not going to change - you’re all just whinging. Yes, you could, but you'd be using it metaphorically. I'm not whinging I was one of the first on here to defend JB for it, so you're wrong about that. I'm whinging, I suppose, about your use of 'correct context' coz it doesn't really mean anything coz JB was using the word metaphorically.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2021 18:26:58 GMT
No, holocaust is not synonymous with disaster. You need to use the dictionary. It's in one sense a very specific sort of disaster, and in another sense an even more specific disaster. Neither pertaining to football. So he didn't use the word literally, he used it metaphorically. Therefore correct context is irrelevant, because metaphors can have any context; it's up to whoever uses the metaphor and what they want to convey. So this has never been about whether the use was correct in a literary or definitional sense, because it was used as a metaphor. Just for you- Holocaust (noun) - synonyms - cataclysm, catastrophe, disaster, destruction, devastation …. Yeah, but just looking up possible synonyms on the web doesn't really help otherwise I could say the Elysium is pornographic, and expect you to understand that I meant the sky is blue. So words that are synonymous in one context aren't in another. And as my example above illustrates it doesn't take many steps to come up with gibberish. So, it's still pretty clear that JB used the expression metaphorically and not literally.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2021 18:16:55 GMT
What are you even talking about, correct context? He used it metaphorically, the context is largely irrelevant. Clearly many people didn't die in a conflagration, or similar, so it cannot be correct in a literal sense. And in a metaphorical sense, anything can be correct, because, obviously it's a metaphor, and the metaphor is plainly up to the user. I think you're barking up the wrong tree if you think it's actually correct in context (whatever you think that means). I think you're getting confused by the idea that one meaning of holocaust isn't as egregious as another. But that doesn't mean it was used correctly. It was used metaphorically in any case, and JB has already said he used the wrong word, so it's bizarre that you think he didn't. Holocaust is synonymous with disaster- Holocaust was also happening long before the Jews too, seriously what is wrong with you all?! You can’t all be this stupid. You all need a dictionary. No, holocaust is not synonymous with disaster. You need to use the dictionary. It's in one sense a very specific sort of disaster, and in another sense an even more specific disaster. Neither pertaining to football. So he didn't use the word literally, he used it metaphorically. Therefore correct context is irrelevant, because metaphors can have any context; it's up to whoever uses the metaphor and what they want to convey. So this has never been about whether the use was correct in a literary or definitional sense, because it was used as a metaphor.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2021 18:02:45 GMT
As usual, we have people such as yourself, seeing these with a polarised perception. I was not offended by what he said, nor do I "look for" things to beat him with. The fact is, he said something that was bound to raise questions, and call into question his professionalism, and as a professional football manager, he is required to respond to those questions with an explanation and an apology to any that were offended. He has done this now, which is fine. In my view, he should have done it earlier. The biggest cock up though is the people that employ him allowing this to drag on for days, by not putting out an interim statement. This is my gripe as it shows how unprofessional and incompetent our board are. He used a word in correct context.. feel free to look it up, you’re the ones putting a worse spin on it + looking to be offended - this is the only viable reason. What are you even talking about, correct context? He used it metaphorically, the context is largely irrelevant. Clearly many people didn't die in a conflagration, or similar, so it cannot be correct in a literal sense. And in a metaphorical sense, anything can be correct, because, obviously it's a metaphor, and the metaphor is plainly up to the user. I think you're barking up the wrong tree if you think it's actually correct in context (whatever you think that means). I think you're getting confused by the idea that one meaning of holocaust isn't as egregious as another. But that doesn't mean it was used correctly. It was used metaphorically in any case, and JB has already said he used the wrong word, so it's bizarre that you think he didn't.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2021 14:40:34 GMT
Mixed news, hopefully just a delay. Approved unanimously today. Result. Still grates a bit that NIMBYs can take things to the wire even though everyone with any professional/council interest thinks it's a good plan.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2021 18:23:20 GMT
I googled looking for ass chat when I first became a member on here and I've been on here ever since. 😁 ass chat forum dodges a bullet.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2021 15:22:14 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2021 10:56:12 GMT
You're starting to come across as a bit of a troll, now.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2021 9:40:30 GMT
"Owner: Joey Barton." And we've fallen so far that non-entities like FGR-matey can just stroll in and take the P?!s. JB has certainly given us a club to be proud of just like he said he would. Think of it as much a product of how far we have come, rather than how far you have fallen. Our Dale promised us the long term plan to take us from non-league to the Championship. And few people doubt him now. We are knocking on the door to League 1 every season, and I think it will be this year we go up again. Could have been last season if we had parted company with Coops a month earlier than we did. Non-entities is a bit harsh. Best club in the region currently, even dumped Bristol City out of the League Cup. Bit of both, probably. Wael promised us similar. I guess the real fight for top club in the region is now you and Cheltenham. The world's turned upside down.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2021 9:06:03 GMT
Hi everyone, Forest Green fan in peace. Been following what's happening with the Gas since Joey promised to get you out of League 1, and to be fair to him he achieved that straight away. I'm not going to get involved in Barton in or out, that's your business, not mine. I will say his post-match pressers have become compulsive Saturday teatime viewing for everyone else in the league. He comes out with some right old pony. Would it have killed Bristol Rovers to put out a simple statement on Saturday evening or Sunday apologising for any unintended offence or upset your manager caused with his inappropriate language? That would have been the end of it. PS. I see there's been a silent takeover of Bristol Rovers according to Wikipedia. Good luck with your new owner 😬 "Owner: Joey Barton." And we've fallen so far that non-entities like FGR-matey can just stroll in and take the water. JB has certainly given us a club to be proud of just like he said he would.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 26, 2021 17:42:23 GMT
Gutted I can't be there to watch, but I injured my ankle last night so it's not possible unfortunately. Will be watching the updates with interest and hoping we can get through to the next round. Good luck to the lads! 🤞 UTG Negligent.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 26, 2021 13:41:14 GMT
Simple use of a word twisted completely out of context The use of the word Holocaust as a term of mass destruction is entirely appropriate if completely misguided in this day and age You can trust the masses to turn it around and use as so many social media arrows against JB Undoubtedly unfortunate But I knew what he meant and it wasn’t a slur against the Jewish community, how could the context be construed as such ? Everyone needs to grow up I think literally not a single poster on here has said he meant it as a slur against the Jewish community.
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