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Post by LJG on Jun 27, 2017 11:31:15 GMT
Talk to me - why are Facebook trying to force users to download the Messenger app?
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Post by pirate on Jun 27, 2017 11:36:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 11:40:12 GMT
Talk to me - why are Facebook trying to force users to download the Messenger app? How do we know you're not from the Feds? |
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Post by LJG on Jun 27, 2017 11:41:05 GMT
It's impossible to disagree with that. And really my question wasn't a question but something to stimulate conversation on the point. The amount "they" know about "us" is quite terrifying and it seems they only want to know more. One of the most concerning things I think is that with the advent of "machine learning" programs aka artificial intelligence - they don't even know how much they know about us, it's inside the "brain" of their computer program. |
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Post by baggins on Jun 27, 2017 11:42:43 GMT
It's impossible to disagree with that. And really my question wasn't a question but something to stimulate conversation on the point. The amount "they" know about "us" is quite terrifying and it seems they only want to know more. One of the most concerning things I think is that with the advent of "machine learning" programs aka artificial intelligence - they don't even know how much they know about us, it's inside the "brain" of their computer program. And we voluntarily gave it. |
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Post by LJG on Jun 27, 2017 11:45:25 GMT
It's impossible to disagree with that. And really my question wasn't a question but something to stimulate conversation on the point. The amount "they" know about "us" is quite terrifying and it seems they only want to know more. One of the most concerning things I think is that with the advent of "machine learning" programs aka artificial intelligence - they don't even know how much they know about us, it's inside the "brain" of their computer program. And we voluntarily gave it. Sadly, yes. It's even difficult to think about how one can give less or no more going forward. Do I ditch it? I enjoy the accessibility of friends and distant family but the targeting of advertising, political manipulation and data mining is really concerning. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 11:49:45 GMT
Earlier today, someone pointed me to a competition on Facebook, ran by Smythes the toy shop. It was to win some Lego. I had a peek, and to join the competition, I had to agree to give them access to all my Friends, Contacts and E-Mail addresses.............what a nerve.
I didn't enter the competition.
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Post by baggins on Jun 27, 2017 11:53:53 GMT
And we voluntarily gave it. Sadly, yes. It's even difficult to think about how one can give less or no more going forward. Do I ditch it? I enjoy the accessibility of friends and distant family but the targeting of advertising, political manipulation and data mining is really concerning. And yet we feel it an invasion of privacy to have id cards. |
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Post by pirate on Jun 27, 2017 11:57:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 12:01:03 GMT
Sadly, yes. It's even difficult to think about how one can give less or no more going forward. Do I ditch it? I enjoy the accessibility of friends and distant family but the targeting of advertising, political manipulation and data mining is really concerning. And yet we feel it an invasion of privacy to have id cards. I'd be happy to carry an ID card. The last attempt by Labour was stupid though, as basically it required too much information. I carry an ID card in Germany, and I also carry my Health Insurance card. I can go to any Doctor or any Hospital, and they just swipe my card through a standard machine, and then it's, "what can we do for you Mr Nobby!". |
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Post by LJG on Jun 27, 2017 12:01:42 GMT
Earlier today, someone pointed me to a competition on Facebook, ran by Smythes the toy shop. It was to win some Lego. I had a peek, and to join the competition, I had to agree to give them access to all my Friends, Contacts and E-Mail addresses.............what a nerve. I didn't enter the competition. Have you tried updating an app on your phone lately? YouTube are insistent that I update and yet when you look at the list of permissions they request they want access to emails, messages, contacts, GPS, CALL LOG! Why do they need to know where I am, who I've called and for how long to be able to watch cat videos? What I wonder most is, do they expect me to think that that level of intrusion is reasonable? Or am I not supposed to notice? Or not supposed to care? |
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Post by baggins on Jun 27, 2017 12:04:09 GMT
And yet we feel it an invasion of privacy to have id cards. I'd be happy to carry an ID card. The last attempt by Labour was stupid though, as basically it required too much information. I carry an ID card in Germany, and I also carry my Health Insurance card. I can go to any Doctor or any Hospital, and they just swipe my card through a standard machine, and then it's, "what can we do for you Mr Nobby!". I'd carry one too. No problem. What information was concidered too much? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 18:39:32 GMT
I'd be happy to carry an ID card. The last attempt by Labour was stupid though, as basically it required too much information. I carry an ID card in Germany, and I also carry my Health Insurance card. I can go to any Doctor or any Hospital, and they just swipe my card through a standard machine, and then it's, "what can we do for you Mr Nobby!". I'd carry one too. No problem. What information was concidered too much? The Labour ID card would even carry your DNA info. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 28, 2017 6:34:41 GMT
And yet we feel it an invasion of privacy to have id cards. I'd be happy to carry an ID card. The last attempt by Labour was stupid though, as basically it required too much information. I carry an ID card in Germany, and I also carry my Health Insurance card. I can go to any Doctor or any Hospital, and they just swipe my card through a standard machine, and then it's, "what can we do for you Mr Nobby!". If you`d stay away from that massage parlour, you wouldn`t need to visit the doctor quite so often. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 6:38:58 GMT
I'd be happy to carry an ID card. The last attempt by Labour was stupid though, as basically it required too much information. I carry an ID card in Germany, and I also carry my Health Insurance card. I can go to any Doctor or any Hospital, and they just swipe my card through a standard machine, and then it's, "what can we do for you Mr Nobby!". If you`d stay away from that massage parlour, you wouldn`t need to visit the doctor quite so often. Tsk...there are no massage parlour's here.....but there are loads of 'Eros centres' ! |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 28, 2017 6:52:20 GMT
Earlier today, someone pointed me to a competition on Facebook, ran by Smythes the toy shop. It was to win some Lego. I had a peek, and to join the competition, I had to agree to give them access to all my Friends, Contacts and E-Mail addresses.............what a nerve. I didn't enter the competition. Have you tried updating an app on your phone lately? YouTube are insistent that I update and yet when you look at the list of permissions they request they want access to emails, messages, contacts, GPS, CALL LOG! Why do they need to know where I am, who I've called and for how long to be able to watch cat videos? What I wonder most is, do they expect me to think that that level of intrusion is reasonable? Or am I not supposed to notice? Or not supposed to care? Got to admit, I don` t care. Not bothered. If the powers that be want to waste their time by listening to my phone calls, checking out the web sites I visit, and monitering my e mails, let them get on with it. Much good may all that information do them. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 28, 2017 6:55:59 GMT
If you`d stay away from that massage parlour, you wouldn`t need to visit the doctor quite so often. Tsk...there are no massage parlour's here.....but there are loads of 'Eros centres' ! Well, that`s a blast from the past. I lived and worked in the Fatherland, in the late 70s early 80s. I accidently wandered into some of them then. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 7:44:01 GMT
Tsk...there are no massage parlour's here.....but there are loads of 'Eros centres' ! Well, that`s a blast from the past. I lived and worked in the Fatherland, in the late 70s early 80s. I accidently wandered into some of them then. Wonderful places. |
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2017 10:13:43 GMT
Tsk...there are no massage parlour's here.....but there are loads of 'Eros centres' ! Well, that`s a blast from the past. I lived and worked in the Fatherland, in the late 70s early 80s. I accidently wandered into some of them then. Yea, accidently. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:25:26 GMT
Well, that`s a blast from the past. I lived and worked in the Fatherland, in the late 70s early 80s. I accidently wandered into some of them then. Yea, accidently. Tis true Bags. One minute you think you are popping into a bar for a beer, and before you know it some sexy lass wants to be your girlfriend for twenty minutes ! |
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