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Post by pepsi on Jul 7, 2017 15:41:51 GMT
Unfortunately 2 well supported Teams competed in the final, would of been different with reading v Ipswich under 23s... Fingers crossed for that this year.
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Post by gaelgas on Jul 7, 2017 16:51:01 GMT
Unfortunately 2 well supported Teams competed in the final, would of been different with reading v Ipswich under 23s... Fingers crossed for that this year. Didn't help that 20,000 more attended it than the league one playoff!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 16:57:31 GMT
An attempt (poor) at humour? [ I'm serious. There should be no positive talk on this thread. Get it out of my sight. Makes me Chuffing sick people supporting it. Trouble is the clubs voted to keep u-21 sides in the competition which undermines the whole "get rid of it" idea. I think playing west ham u-21 is an insult and wont be watching such a game. For all those who dont care or like this format bear in mind next season we could well be playing bristol city u-21.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 7, 2017 18:10:10 GMT
Well if the Wycombe game is away I can see their safety officer getting it called off because it is too hot, or too cold, there might be a chance of a thunderstorm, the grass is too long etc etc etc
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 7, 2017 18:12:07 GMT
For all those who dont care or like this format bear in mind next season we could well be playing bristol city u-21. Yeah, when we do, I hope everyone who turns up to the other games, turns up to that one to watch while a sold out away end just wateres themselves laughing for the entire game.
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Post by Marshy on Jul 7, 2017 18:48:14 GMT
Please move this thread to the anal probe section, as it's just like a bad case of piles. Just when you think it's gone away up it flares again! You can probably tell I won't be attending the games or even the final on the off chance we make it. :Tinpot:
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 7, 2017 19:51:06 GMT
What message are you hoping to send by watching the EFL clubs but not the U23, either you support the trophy or you don't? It sounds like you just want the best of both worlds, unfortunately life's not that straight forward. When I watch Rovers, I watch Rovers. I don't send messages to anyone. I don't support the football league. I don't support the FA. I don't support Carabo. I don't support the trophy as you call it. I SUPPORT ROVERS. It sounds once again that I have to agree with your view of the world. But as you say, life's not that straight forward. I'm afraid you do give a message to the EFL and Sean Harvey by attending these games, whether you mean to or not. They don't give a sh** which games you attend, only that you attend any of them. I agree it's your choice and I agree that we shouldn't attack the misguided people who attend these games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 20:37:00 GMT
Its a waste of time arguing about this trophy really. This season or next season or maybe the season after all league one and 2 teams will have at least 6 loans from premier league/championship clubs in their matchday squads and both divisions will simply be testing grounds for promising young players from higher up the ladder. You can see the writing on the wall if you look. How many loans from bigger clubs will we end up with this season? Most people will just accept it but if we have 5 or 6 loans in our matchday squad its not really rovers is it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 20:54:04 GMT
If I say "chekatraaaade, checkatrade dot com" does that breach the song title rule or is this on topic?
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Post by gasincider on Jul 7, 2017 21:22:27 GMT
I'm afraid you do give a message to the EFL and Sean Harvey by attending these games, whether you mean to or not. They don't give a sh** which games you attend, only that you attend any of them. I agree it's your choice and I agree that we shouldn't attack the misguided people who attend these games. And I'm delighted that I don't send the message you suggest. So who's right? Well I guess that depends on your point of view.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 21:53:15 GMT
What message are you hoping to send by watching the EFL clubs but not the U23, either you support the trophy or you don't? It sounds like you just want the best of both worlds, unfortunately life's not that straight forward. When I watch Rovers, I watch Rovers. I don't send messages to anyone. I don't support the football league. I don't support the FA. I don't support Carabo. I don't support the trophy as you call it. I SUPPORT ROVERS. It sounds once again that I have to agree with your view of the world. But as you say, life's not that straight forward. Very nice and all but those attending games against U23 teams are supporting their introduction to lower league competitions in a very literal sense. That's the reality. My strong belief is that supporting the interests of Rovers in this instance is to not to engage in a competition which threatens our future identity.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jul 7, 2017 22:15:35 GMT
Was it in this competition last year when one teams fans (possibly Portsmouth), all paid to go in and then left as soon as the game started? I love that idea, makes a complete mockery of the competition and gives it bad publicity, whilst also giving money for the ticket to the club.
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Post by gasincider on Jul 7, 2017 22:41:39 GMT
Very nice and all but those attending games against U23 teams are supporting their introduction to lower league competitions in a very literal sense. That's the reality. My strong belief is that supporting the interests of Rovers in this instance is to not to engage in a competition which threatens our future identity. Which is why I won't attend games against under 23 teams. That is my reality. I feel that clubs should be allowed to opt in or opt out, and I would fully support our axing the whole competition if we were allowed to. But we are not and that is the reality. One question though: should we refuse to borrow under 23 players from premiership and championship clubs? After all, if everyone refused to play them, then the whole system of hoarding these players would collapse. How many on here will stay away in this reality? .............. A deafening silence.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jul 7, 2017 23:37:34 GMT
Very nice and all but those attending games against U23 teams are supporting their introduction to lower league competitions in a very literal sense. That's the reality. My strong belief is that supporting the interests of Rovers in this instance is to not to engage in a competition which threatens our future identity. Which is why I won't attend games against under 23 teams. That is my reality. I feel that clubs should be allowed to opt in or opt out, and I would fully support our axing the whole competition if we were allowed to. But we are not and that is the reality. One question though: should we refuse to borrow under 23 players from premiership and championship clubs? After all, if everyone refused to play them, then the whole system of hoarding these players would collapse. How many on here will stay away in this reality? .............. A deafening silence. Absolutely I would stay away. It might stop the prem teams buying all the young talent and letting them rot away, if they have no real match experience in sh**ty cups like this then what's the point in having so many young uns when they'll buy abroad. Those of you who will go and support this moronic cup, I hope you will at least go support a local club during this pre season time. Support lower league football not b team bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 4:38:18 GMT
Groundhog day!
Should have just rebooted last season's thread.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 8, 2017 6:14:01 GMT
Very nice and all but those attending games against U23 teams are supporting their introduction to lower league competitions in a very literal sense. That's the reality. My strong belief is that supporting the interests of Rovers in this instance is to not to engage in a competition which threatens our future identity. Which is why I won't attend games against under 23 teams. That is my reality. I feel that clubs should be allowed to opt in or opt out, and I would fully support our axing the whole competition if we were allowed to. But we are not and that is the reality. One question though: should we refuse to borrow under 23 players from premiership and championship clubs? After all, if everyone refused to play them, then the whole system of hoarding these players would collapse. How many on here will stay away in this reality? .............. A deafening silence. That's an excellent point. If all lower league teams refused to take players under 21 on loan for a season in protest at the introduction of U21 teams into our competitions that would be amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 7:03:14 GMT
Very nice and all but those attending games against U23 teams are supporting their introduction to lower league competitions in a very literal sense. That's the reality. My strong belief is that supporting the interests of Rovers in this instance is to not to engage in a competition which threatens our future identity. Which is why I won't attend games against under 23 teams. That is my reality. I feel that clubs should be allowed to opt in or opt out, and I would fully support our axing the whole competition if we were allowed to. But we are not and that is the reality. One question though: should we refuse to borrow under 23 players from premiership and championship clubs? After all, if everyone refused to play them, then the whole system of hoarding these players would collapse. How many on here will stay away in this reality? .............. A deafening silence. Take your point but I would argue the loan system, when employed and managed sensibly, is a positive thing and offers an alternative to the new EFL Trophy farce. Unfortunately the market is so vast these days that PL clubs could easily loan to Holland, Germany, France, Scotland etc if clubs refused to get involved. The trend of hording players certainly needs to be reviewed and changed to prevent the stockpiling of talent we currently see. It's a disgrace that clubs like Chelsea are allowed to treat young players as investment assets and have no intention of playing them in first team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 7:12:14 GMT
Was it in this competition last year when one teams fans (possibly Portsmouth), all paid to go in and then left as soon as the game started? I love that idea, makes a complete mockery of the competition and gives it bad publicity, whilst also giving money for the ticket to the club. I personally think it would be a terrible idea. The likes of Harvey wouldn't look past the attendance figure which would give the false impression that the competition attracts good attendances. It would also be used to justify retaining or even expanding the format of the competition. For those concerned about loss of ticket income, bare in mind the club would have made less than £2.50 from each adult attending last year's game against Reading. A few pints, pies etc throughout the season would more than cover it.
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Post by tommym9 on Jul 8, 2017 8:01:31 GMT
As per last year I'll be boycotting again for the same reasons.
The fact the pretence of developing players for England has been dropped from the aims shows what little it achieved to that end last season.
Now the prize money has been upped, every lower league team is that little bit more indebted to the PL now.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 8, 2017 8:17:48 GMT
So if DC has to borrow some top flight Under 23 player and play them in the first team, are you all going to boycott the game or if you go boo him as well ??
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