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Post by William Wilson on Jul 26, 2017 6:43:29 GMT
Given the history of the tour, over the last 30 years or so, I know which I find the most likely. Quite possibly the reason why Froome has received so little recognition for his efforts. True, but you only have to look at the manner of Froomes wins to know he's as clean as possible. He has won by unorthodox attacks such as his racing decent last year or cheeky little attacks on climbs as well as being world class at TT. He hasn't done the long climbing attacks that marked the Armstrong/Landis/Contador grand tour wins. A couple of years ago, was listening to car radio on way into work, and they had on a former rider of the tour ( can`t remember which one ), but he said that it was "inconceivable" that anybody could win the race drugs free. Certainly Wiggins didn`t. Not only was he fuelled by a steroid injection before his win, but he lied his head off afterwards. Five years on, they`re still trying to get to the bottom of it all. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 26, 2017 7:33:30 GMT
True, but you only have to look at the manner of Froomes wins to know he's as clean as possible. He has won by unorthodox attacks such as his racing decent last year or cheeky little attacks on climbs as well as being world class at TT. He hasn't done the long climbing attacks that marked the Armstrong/Landis/Contador grand tour wins. A couple of years ago, was listening to car radio on way into work, and they had on a former rider of the tour ( can`t remember which one ), but he said that it was "inconceivable" that anybody could win the race drugs free. Certainly Wiggins didn`t. Not only was he fuelled by a steroid injection before his win, but he lied his head off afterwards. Five years on, they`re still trying to get to the bottom of it all. Wiggins was also prescribed asthma medicine despite no history of asthma. The guy you heard was probably Tyler Hamilton plugging his book The Secret Race. Came out about 4 or 5 years ago and is a very good read. Cycling is a lot cleaner now and even if it's not, they are all as dirty as one another so it's still a level playing field  |
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Post by LJG on Jul 26, 2017 8:39:19 GMT
Hugo The Elder v Hugo The Younger.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 26, 2017 9:48:51 GMT
Hugo The Elder v Hugo The Younger. Only one winner there I'm afraid. |
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Post by LJG on Jul 26, 2017 9:52:28 GMT
Hugo The Elder v Hugo The Younger. Only one winner there I'm afraid. Let's hope it's more of a show than Hugo The Destroyer v Hugo The Unready was. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jul 26, 2017 10:07:47 GMT
A couple of years ago, was listening to car radio on way into work, and they had on a former rider of the tour ( can`t remember which one ), but he said that it was "inconceivable" that anybody could win the race drugs free. Certainly Wiggins didn`t. Not only was he fuelled by a steroid injection before his win, but he lied his head off afterwards. Five years on, they`re still trying to get to the bottom of it all. Wiggins was also prescribed asthma medicine despite no history of asthma. The guy you heard was probably Tyler Hamilton plugging his book The Secret Race. Came out about 4 or 5 years ago and is a very good read. Cycling is a lot cleaner now and even if it's not, they are all as dirty as one another so it's still a level playing field It`s a sad thing, but you`re right. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jul 26, 2017 10:09:15 GMT
Hugo The Elder v Hugo The Younger. Conan the barbarian v Conan the librarian. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 26, 2017 10:30:04 GMT
Hugo The Elder v Hugo The Younger. Conan the barbarian v Conan the librarian. Shhhush. |
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Post by LJG on Jul 26, 2017 10:44:34 GMT
Hugo The Elder v Hugo The Younger. Conan the barbarian v Conan the librarian. Conan the Barbican v Conan the National Theatre? |
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Post by jaggas on Jul 29, 2017 18:02:37 GMT
Mayweather Jr v Sugar Ray Leanord. Now that is a cracking match up, far closer to call than Ali/Tyson which would be an easy win for Ali. I would go for Sugar Ray at any of the weights Ray has fought at. Mayweather is the best defensive fighter of his generation by a country mile but the previous generation were better IMO as they had all the tools.I think Hearns and Duran also beat Mayweather at Welter while Julio Cesar Chavez beats him at Light Welter.To be honest if Mayweather had fought Pacquiao 6 years ago there was no way he could have beaten Pac. |
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Post by William Wilson on Jul 30, 2017 6:48:03 GMT
Mayweather Jr v Sugar Ray Leanord. Now that is a cracking match up, far closer to call than Ali/Tyson which would be an easy win for Ali. I would go for Sugar Ray at any of the weights Ray has fought at. Mayweather is the best defensive fighter of his generation by a country mile but the previous generation were better IMO as they had all the tools.I think Hearns and Duran also beat Mayweather at Welter while Julio Cesar Chavez beats him at Light Welter.To be honest if Mayweather had fought Pacquiao 6 years ago there was no way he could have beaten Pac. It`s all about opinions but to me, Mayweather would have beaten Pacquiao whenever he fought him. Not a nice man, but one of the greats. |
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Post by jaggas on Aug 3, 2017 17:45:23 GMT
I don`t think Mayweather could have handled the Pac that fought Miguel Cotto.At that time Pacquiao was simply sensational.
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 5, 2017 12:30:12 GMT
I don`t think Mayweather could have handled the Pac that fought Miguel Cotto.At that time Pacquiao was simply sensational. Don`t agree, but there you go. How about Golovkin v Alvarez? Can`t wait for that one. Would love to see GGG win. Alvarez`s refusal to fight anyone, except at a weight that he`s specified, is a disgrace. |
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Post by jaggas on Aug 6, 2017 16:58:25 GMT
I don`t think Mayweather could have handled the Pac that fought Miguel Cotto.At that time Pacquiao was simply sensational. Don`t agree, but there you go. How about Golovkin v Alvarez? Can`t wait for that one. Would love to see GGG win. Alvarez`s refusal to fight anyone, except at a weight that he`s specified, is a disgrace. Really looking forward to this one and it has the potential to be fight of the year,Canelo is a superb fighter while GGG is an absolute beast who hits really hard.Late stoppage in favour of GGG I think but it will be a tough fight for him probably his toughest to date. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 22:56:28 GMT
This should be intresting
DC or Francis
DC or Bert Tann
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 7, 2017 7:06:04 GMT
Don`t agree, but there you go. How about Golovkin v Alvarez? Can`t wait for that one. Would love to see GGG win. Alvarez`s refusal to fight anyone, except at a weight that he`s specified, is a disgrace. Really looking forward to this one and it has the potential to be fight of the year,Canelo is a superb fighter while GGG is an absolute beast who hits really hard.Late stoppage in favour of GGG I think but it will be a tough fight for him probably his toughest to date. I hope it doesn`t go the distance. Every Mexican who can steal a ticket will be there. Bound to influence the judges. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 8, 2017 9:35:29 GMT
GGMI
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 9, 2017 11:54:44 GMT
Now that is a cracking match up, far closer to call than Ali/Tyson which would be an easy win for Ali. I would go for Sugar Ray at any of the weights Ray has fought at. Mayweather is the best defensive fighter of his generation by a country mile but the previous generation were better IMO as they had all the tools.I think Hearns and Duran also beat Mayweather at Welter while Julio Cesar Chavez beats him at Light Welter.To be honest if Mayweather had fought Pacquiao 6 years ago there was no way he could have beaten Pac. It`s all about opinions but to me, Mayweather would have beaten Pacquiao whenever he fought him. Not a nice man, but one of the greats. They should Of fought 2009/10 after they both defeated Hatton. I think Pac then would of beaten Mayweather. |
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Post by jaggas on Aug 15, 2017 21:43:36 GMT
Mayweather didnt want to know it then.His Dad saw first hand how devastating Pac was and told his son to steer well clear of Pac.They then smeared Pac as a drug cheat when infact it is Mayweather who down the line was seen to be the drug cheat.
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Aug 21, 2017 18:27:28 GMT
Froome and Wiggins. watered off that Wiggins gets all the glory and plaudits while Froomes achievements don't even merit a podium position in Sports Personality of the Year. Froome would have won the tour that Wiggins won were it not for team orders. The guy is a legend. Cycling legend is an oxymoron. |
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