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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 19:51:46 GMT
Totally agree. He really gets a raw deal with a large section of the crowd to the point where nothing he does is ever good enough. It's a f**king disgrace. Problem is for 10+ games he's done very little at the Mem, plus he gave away the stupid goal v Scunthorpe then missed the sitter on Saturday. Then he winds fans up with watching the 82'ers etc, not agreeing with the abuse he gets but I can see why he gets it and Gaffney doesn't. Let's hope he can put in another couple of decent performances this week. He put in a good performance against Cambridge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 19:52:59 GMT
Totally agree. He really gets a raw deal with a large section of the crowd to the point where nothing he does is ever good enough. It's a f**king disgrace. Problem is for 10+ games he's done very little at the Mem, plus he gave away the stupid goal v Scunthorpe then missed the sitter on Saturday. Then he winds fans up with watching the 82'ers etc, not agreeing with the abuse he gets but I can see why he gets it and Gaffney doesn't. Let's hope he can put in another couple of decent performances this week. He'll never miss as many sitters as snake.
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Post by chilly1883 on Aug 20, 2017 20:21:19 GMT
Problem is for 10+ games he's done very little at the Mem, plus he gave away the stupid goal v Scunthorpe then missed the sitter on Saturday. Then he winds fans up with watching the 82'ers etc, not agreeing with the abuse he gets but I can see why he gets it and Gaffney doesn't. Let's hope he can put in another couple of decent performances this week. He'll never miss as many sitters as snake. also Never score as many😳
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 20:29:22 GMT
He'll never miss as many sitters as snake. also Never score as many😳 Well if snake sits on the bench...
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 20, 2017 20:48:25 GMT
Only on gaschat, would someone compare Ellis Harrison to a champions league winner. 🙈
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 21:25:27 GMT
In the cambridge and bury games hes played on the left[mostly] of a front 3 and has impressed in both games,think its giving him a bit more space and freedom to express himself. He has often had to play as an out and out target man which isnt really his best role imo although he has held his own there.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 21, 2017 3:12:11 GMT
The thing is. Others that play badly have played well so often before. Ellis rarely has a very good game. I don't see what he brings to the table. He doesn't win much in the air, he can't hold he ball up, he goes down too easily instead of challenging for the ball. He doesn't create chances, he rarely scores or looks like scoring, he doesn't work hard. He's not particularly quick. He's not mentally strong. His best attribute is probably defending set pieces. I think we will cut our losses with him this season. He has too much hard work to do to turn our fan base around now I feel. I hope he fulfils his potential but I highly doubt it and suspect he will be playing for a league 2 side next season. personally I think people are blinkered with Ellis with some perceived lazy tag and/or so say not playing well regularly enough.
If he was that lazy, he wouldn't get in a DC team and his defensive work (often ignored by most) would counter the lazy tag
Tuesday night people were still criticising him despite being no better or worse than the rest of the team and actually scoring. People never say he had an ok game, or he was as good as anyone else. Unless the lad has a blinder, some people will say he wasn't good enough full stop.
I am not saying there aren't times he doesn't deserve criticism, but to me it seems like the bloke can't do right for doing wrong. Some people must be obsessed to end up with bollox like slagging him off, for daring to watch City with his mates for instance
Don't forget going to chasers ! Seriously, a good few had it in for him after that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 5:39:38 GMT
Only on gaschat, would someone compare Ellis Harrison to a champions league winner. 🙈 Compare? Only on gas chat would somebody completely misunderstand the point. The point being, all strikers at all levels miss sitters. This was in reference to a point made earlier about Ellis missing a sitter. Entiende?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 21, 2017 6:12:26 GMT
Only on gaschat, would someone compare Ellis Harrison to a champions league winner. 🙈 Compare? Only on gas chat would somebody completely misunderstand the point. The point being, all strikers at all levels miss sitters. This was in reference to a point made earlier about Ellis missing a sitter. Entiende? I don't really get the point as yes all strikers miss sitters, but players like Morata, Matty Taylor etc score plenty of goals or play well normally, Ellis doesn't.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 21, 2017 6:19:22 GMT
Unfortunately that is not true a number of fans? Love to see him fail which is a pity because surely as he is a rovers player every one should want him to succeed. On another point if I had been his agent knowing the amount of abuse he gets from certain sections of the ground I would have made sure he didn't sign the new improved contract he eventually signed and moved on Totally agree. He really gets a raw deal with a large section of the crowd to the point where nothing he does is ever good enough. It's a f**king disgrace. He does and this is one of the reasons I think his time is up with us. He hasn't helped himself in the past but he doesn't deserve the level of abuse he gets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 6:42:30 GMT
Compare? Only on gas chat would somebody completely misunderstand the point. The point being, all strikers at all levels miss sitters. This was in reference to a point made earlier about Ellis missing a sitter. Entiende? I don't really get the point as yes all strikers miss sitters, but players like Morata, Matty Taylor etc score plenty of goals or play well normally, Ellis doesn't. Fair enough. My point was the basic bit! Matty Taylor....there was a time when many people would have ommitted him from our side.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 6:43:38 GMT
Totally agree. He really gets a raw deal with a large section of the crowd to the point where nothing he does is ever good enough. It's a f**king disgrace. He does and this is one of the reasons I think his time is up with us. He hasn't helped himself in the past but he doesn't deserve the level of abuse he gets. Then who will get the abuse? It's not Ellis. It's sections of our fan base.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 21, 2017 7:02:56 GMT
I don't really get the point as yes all strikers miss sitters, but players like Morata, Matty Taylor etc score plenty of goals or play well normally, Ellis doesn't. Fair enough. My point was the basic bit! Matty Taylor....there was a time when many people would have ommitted him from our side. There was, I wasn't one of them though. He nearly always played well even when he wasn't scoring.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 21, 2017 7:04:14 GMT
He does and this is one of the reasons I think his time is up with us. He hasn't helped himself in the past but he doesn't deserve the level of abuse he gets. Then who will get the abuse? It's not Ellis. It's sections of our fan base. Our fan base don't help matters. Hence being one of the reasons why he maybe better off somewhere else for both parties.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 21, 2017 8:57:36 GMT
Whenever anyone dares to criticise DC they get the "In DC we trust" nonsense thrown at them yet those same people (or many of them) say that Harrison is sh**e or lazy or any derogative they can find. You can't have it all ways as if DC is constantly choosing a player you think is rubbish then how can you trust him 100% ?? All I was saying earlier in this thread was that Ellis is not lazy but in many games within DCs tactics the two forwards have to chase around after four defenders and rarely are rewarded with winning the ball and using up a lot of energy in the process. Compare that with the Peterborough forwards who due to the way their Manager set them up rarely moved from their part of the pitch as the whole team pressurised. You can't be a lazy player to do the thankless task that often our forward two have to do. Saturday we pressurised a lot better and wasted far less energy.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 21, 2017 9:29:44 GMT
Regardless of the "lazy" tag Ellis still need to start scoring regularly, or at least helping the team score more. 4 games in he's done the latter in 2 out of 4 games.
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Post by twertonboy on Aug 21, 2017 9:38:56 GMT
After one game which he done ok and didn't score everyone is now team Harrison...so thickle..he'll have a shocker and miss a sitter and the same people will be cheering him off again.. Basically if we are to survive or become a top six contender Ellis Harrison isn't the man to put us there fact...his goal scoring record is bad and some of them are penalties so not in open play... So if we're gonna play him it's for getting the ball down and drag defenders to allow others to be played in and he's the worst at all of that out of him and gaffney, as long as Ellis starts we are always gonna be playing to a disadvantage
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Post by Marshy on Aug 21, 2017 10:03:02 GMT
Penalties don't count.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 10:09:01 GMT
After one game which he done ok and didn't score everyone is now team Harrison...so thickle..he'll have a shocker and miss a sitter and the same people will be cheering him off again.. Basically if we are to survive or become a top six contender Ellis Harrison isn't the man to put us there fact...his goal scoring record is bad and some of them are penalties so not in open play... So if we're gonna play him it's for getting the ball down and drag defenders to allow others to be played in and he's the worst at all of that out of him and gaffney, as long as Ellis starts we are always gonna be playing to a disadvantage Yeth I agwee.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Aug 21, 2017 10:17:03 GMT
After one game which he done ok and didn't score everyone is now team Harrison...so thickle..he'll have a shocker and miss a sitter and the same people will be cheering him off again.. Basically if we are to survive or become a top six contender Ellis Harrison isn't the man to put us there fact...his goal scoring record is bad and some of them are penalties so not in open play... So if we're gonna play him it's for getting the ball down and drag defenders to allow others to be played in and he's the worst at all of that out of him and gaffney, as long as Ellis starts we are always gonna be playing to a disadvantage Yeth I agwee. good poath
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