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Post by knowall on Aug 31, 2017 20:46:56 GMT
Bullshit from Steve 192 Delusions of grandeur I think over his pontificating match reports. Go get a life Unreasonably very harsh on a guy who follows HIS team all over the country. A guy who clearly thinks a lot of his club and is entitled to his opinion without crasse sh?t coming from you or anyone else come to that. Forums are about opinions - they dont have to agree with what you think all the time. Has he ever given you a hard time - cheap shots and easy to criticise - much more difficult to be constructive. Agree with Oldie - this is 'Agents day' and everyone should avoid like the plague. Panic does no-one any good and well done Rovers (DC) for not falling into the trap -what we have will do us fine. If Christmas is a rip-off so is deadline day. Carry on DC - you have my utmost respect for not falling for what is a football madness.
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Post by drasim on Aug 31, 2017 20:47:20 GMT
Neither were good on Championship Manager, unlike Robbie Ryan and Mark Smith. (and more recently, Jonny Burn) Not even when White was Southampton academy top scorer and academy player of the year? Kevin Street was a Championship Manager legend. And who could forget Cherno Samba. Sometimes I think it would be great if Football Manager was realistic, we'd have won the FA cup in the non-league with a team fully made of French and Hungarian players on £100 a week and a £1 goal bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 20:47:36 GMT
We definitely need young hungry players like Jamie white and experienced pros like Alan gow. Dc is is clearly a clown for not getting both on 10 year contracts. Let's get back down the pub? Hmmm.......very interesting comment from North Somerset.
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Post by pirate on Aug 31, 2017 20:53:58 GMT
Not even when White was Southampton academy top scorer and academy player of the year? Kevin Street was a Championship Manager legend. And who could forget Cherno Samba. Sometimes I think it would be great if Football Manager was realistic, we'd have won the FA cup in the non-league with a team fully made of French and Hungarian players on £100 a week and a £1 goal bonus. If you're a Football Manager fan this is an interesting story. amp.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/12/why-clubs-football-manager-scouting-tool
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 31, 2017 21:17:07 GMT
Knowall, I note you agree with Oldie and say well done to DC for avoiding Deadline day mayhem but this was very much my point- we have had the entire summer to sign a left winger and a defensive midfielder and it is DCs/owners fault it has gone to the last day and still these positions have not been filled (only three weeks ago DC was saying we needed them!!) No doubt the January window will go the same way and end up in the last day madness. DC has said himself that he cannot always be the Houdini and get the team performing above themselves. Granted perhaps he is not to blame and the owners may not have given sufficient funds but I don't recall DC querying the fact that Steve Hamer said he had a top six budget and was happy with it. Perhaps it was the case when Steve Hamer said it but of course he is not well liked so easy for him to be given all the blame. Whilst I am pleased that Bodin remains I am disappointed that we have not brought in a minimum of 1 or 2. It seems many lesser clubs than ourselves have made gtood signings in the last week.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 31, 2017 21:25:03 GMT
Whilst I am pleased that Bodin remains I am disappointed that we have not brought in a minimum of 1 or 2. It seems many lesser clubs than ourselves have made gtood signings in the last week. And many far bigger, wealthier clubs than Rovers have failed to bring players in too. DC is a man it seems who still has principles in regards to just signing anybody. He's tried to sign the players he had in mind but for whatever reason they didn't happen. DC will not bow down to players/agents demands and rightly so. DC deserves our respect, not people constantly moaning because we are not just signing players for the sake of it.
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Post by pirate on Aug 31, 2017 21:29:00 GMT
I'm not knocking DC, but surely if you can't get your first targets then you move on to your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc options. You can't tell me there is no one out there that is a realistic upgrade on Byron Moore for example.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 21:30:03 GMT
Well if 5 wins from 7 games is masking a problem lets hope the same masking continues all season. It would leave Rovers on approx. 99 points. You seem to be overlooking the fact we have played four league games and won two and lost two. As far as I am aware cup games don't add points to your league total. That would equate to 69 points at the end of the season, if our present league form continues. They (cup) don't add points that's true. But....the fact is ,its 5 wins from 7 games which apparently is a warning of problems. Make no mistake if Rovers had lost the cup games the form of 2 wins from 6 games would have been thrown around.Defeats against Cambridge and Wycombe would have been evidence of catastrophy.
So if the form of 5 wins from 7 is continued all season the team will get 99 points approx.
Its highly unlikely the team will get 99 points.....but not impossible.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 31, 2017 21:30:34 GMT
It's easy for us to say we should sign a winger or even to name names but in reality it doesn't work like that. DC has said that we've missed out on a couple of players which could potentially have been those positions people are talking about. We know DC is very particular about the players he brings in if the players he wants aren't available or have moved elsewhere then he won't bring in someone for the sake of it. IMO that's to be applauded it looks as though we've kept Bodin to me that was the most important thing today.
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Post by pirate on Aug 31, 2017 21:33:40 GMT
It's easy for us to say we should sign a winger or even to name names but in reality it doesn't work like that. DC has said that we've missed out on a couple of players which could potentially have been those positions people are talking about. We know DC is very particular about the players he brings in if the players he wants aren't available or have moved elsewhere then he won't bring in someone for the sake of it. IMO that's to be applauded it looks as though we've kept Bodin to me that was the most important thing today. If he has missed out on 1 or 2 players then move onto other targets. Like I said above, you can't tell me there isn't anyone out there that is a realistic upgrade on someone like Byron Moore.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 31, 2017 21:35:20 GMT
I'm not knocking DC, but surely if you can't get your first targets then you move on to your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc options. You can't tell me there is no one out there that is a realistic upgrade on Byron Moore for example. Maybe there is better options. But maybe DC doesn't think they are value for money, he may think they wont fit in with the rest of the squad etc, etc, etc Again it may just come down to the fact that DC wont just sign anybody for the sake of it.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 31, 2017 21:35:53 GMT
Based on the Wycombe game Byron Moore is improving and could be the answer but we still have very little strength on the wing or midfield with Sinclair looking like he could be out for a few weeks and Ollie Clarke is still struggling to reach his last season form. Just my opinion and I accept others have different opinions and I respect that.
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Post by bluestone on Aug 31, 2017 21:36:11 GMT
Shall we just remind ourselves of some of DC's quotes today:
"I missed out on one or two [players] earlier in the week but I'm not one of those who panics.
"I want to bring in players who add value, I'm disappointed to miss out but that's football.
"Nothing that's really come up has taken my fancy that's not going to cost an awful lot of money to bring in, so we'll bide our time."
"There are a lot of clubs panic buying but I like to be a bit more structured than that, a bit more organised if I'm honest,"
"The way I'm looking at it, I'm still trying to bed in eight new players this summer, some teams have signed 20 players in our division," said the Rovers boss.
"I can't emphasis how much of being a coach is working on the training ground. Whatever business you do you've go to put the player into an environment where they fit into the way you play.
"It's a bit crazy really when you see the amount of deals done."
Seems to me DC is happy enough with the business he had done this window.
Keep calm and carry on trusting DC I say!
UTG!
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 31, 2017 21:38:58 GMT
Maybe broom has moved himself up the pecking order and Telford said he can play on the wing. So DC might think we are OK at the moment.
Anyone know how long the defensive midfielder we had on trial got injured for?? If he's a free agent DC can still have a look at him, one he's fit.
In some ways I agree we have had long enough to find the players, but on the other hand I'm glad DC won't just sign anyone.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 31, 2017 21:39:37 GMT
Shall we just remind ourselves of some of DC's quotes today: "I missed out on one or two [players] earlier in the week but I'm not one of those who panics. "I want to bring in players who add value, I'm disappointed to miss out but that's football. "Nothing that's really come up has taken my fancy that's not going to cost an awful lot of money to bring in, so we'll bide our time." "There are a lot of clubs panic buying but I like to be a bit more structured than that, a bit more organised if I'm honest," "The way I'm looking at it, I'm still trying to bed in eight new players this summer, some teams have signed 20 players in our division," said the Rovers boss. "I can't emphasis how much of being a coach is working on the training ground. Whatever business you do you've go to put the player into an environment where they fit into the way you play. "It's a bit crazy really when you see the amount of deals done." Seems to me DC is happy enough with the business he had done this window. Keep calm and carry on trusting DC I say! UTG! And that is why DC is a top class young manager
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Aug 31, 2017 21:41:40 GMT
Oh well, there's always the loan window!
Oh, wait.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 31, 2017 21:41:53 GMT
It's easy for us to say we should sign a winger or even to name names but in reality it doesn't work like that. DC has said that we've missed out on a couple of players which could potentially have been those positions people are talking about. We know DC is very particular about the players he brings in if the players he wants aren't available or have moved elsewhere then he won't bring in someone for the sake of it. IMO that's to be applauded it looks as though we've kept Bodin to me that was the most important thing today. If he has missed out on 1 or 2 players then move onto other targets. Like I said above, you can't tell me there isn't anyone out there that is a realistic upgrade on someone like Byron Moore. You may well be on the money Pirate but DC obviously feels he has the players he needs until Jan, time will tell if he is right. What I would say is we look like we've settled on 433 so would a winger get much of a look in ? Agreed another option is always handy but doesn't every manager want one or two more players !
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Post by pirate on Aug 31, 2017 21:43:51 GMT
I'm not knocking DC, but surely if you can't get your first targets then you move on to your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc options. You can't tell me there is no one out there that is a realistic upgrade on Byron Moore for example. Maybe there is better options. But maybe DC doesn't think they are value for money, he may think they wont fit in with the rest of the squad etc, etc, etc Again it may just come down to the fact that DC wont just sign anybody for the sake of it. Fair points. There is always the option to bring in free agents too if necessary.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 31, 2017 21:46:54 GMT
Maybe there is better options. But maybe DC doesn't think they are value for money, he may think they wont fit in with the rest of the squad etc, etc, etc Again it may just come down to the fact that DC wont just sign anybody for the sake of it. Fair points. There is always the option to bring in free agents too if necessary. You will know a lot more about Free Agents which are available than me. Any realistic ones that stand out?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 31, 2017 21:52:26 GMT
Worth remembering that we also have a development squad with some very decent prospects.
The two problem areas are:
Defensive midfielder: Current options: Ollie Clarke, Stu Sinclair, Joe Partington
Left midfield/wing: Current options: Byron Moore, Ryan Broom, Dom Telford, Stuart Sinclair, possibly Marc Bola?
It's not as if the cupboard is bare and there needs to be space, in my opinion for players both in the first team squad and development squad to come through and stake a claim for these places.
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