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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 1, 2017 6:36:01 GMT
I am amazed. We have kept Billy Bodin, kept Tom Lockyer, got Sweeney for a year, added Liam sercombe and retained the rest of the squad who got us to 10th in their first season in league 1. Why the hell are people dissenting - we are Bristol Rovers and this is absolutely fantastic news. We don't have to sell and we can attract talent. Because so many clubs are flinging silly money around it does not mean we must. I guess the board would back DC if he really wanted a specific player but it appears he will not break his wage structure and rightly so. Stop moaning, continue supporting and start rejoicing - we are slowly but surely evolving. Don't talk sense...it doesn't sit well with some people!! I agree, but I would have liked a winger to have joined. We are a bit light on the left side and Moore doesn't fill me with confidence.
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Post by chilly1883 on Sept 1, 2017 6:40:30 GMT
Knowall, I note you agree with Oldie and say well done to DC for avoiding Deadline day mayhem but this was very much my point- we have had the entire summer to sign a left winger and a defensive midfielder and it is DCs/owners fault it has gone to the last day and still these positions have not been filled (only three weeks ago DC was saying we needed them!!) No doubt the January window will go the same way and end up in the last day madness. DC has said himself that he cannot always be the Houdini and get the team performing above themselves. Granted perhaps he is not to blame and the owners may not have given sufficient funds but I don't recall DC querying the fact that Steve Hamer said he had a top six budget and was happy with it. Perhaps it was the case when Steve Hamer said it but of course he is not well liked so easy for him to be given all the blame. Whilst I am pleased that Bodin remains I am disappointed that we have not brought in a minimum of 1 or 2. It seems many lesser clubs than ourselves have made gtood signings in the last week. lets see where these lesser teams, with more signings than us, are positioned at the end of the season. DC has assembled a pretty useful team in my opinion.
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Post by Langford Gas on Sept 1, 2017 6:44:54 GMT
I am amazed. We have kept Billy Bodin, kept Tom Lockyer, got Sweeney for a year, added Liam sercombe and retained the rest of the squad who got us to 10th in their first season in league 1. Why the hell are people dissenting - we are Bristol Rovers and this is absolutely fantastic news. We don't have to sell and we can attract talent. Because so many clubs are flinging silly money around it does not mean we must. I guess the board would back DC if he really wanted a specific player but it appears he will not break his wage structure and rightly so. Stop moaning, continue supporting and start rejoicing - we are slowly but surely evolving. Totally agree with this, though with the benefit of the wonderful thing called hindsight I wonder if DC is thinking he let Monty go a little bit prematurely. ?
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Post by madridgas on Sept 1, 2017 6:45:12 GMT
I'm not knocking DC, but surely if you can't get your first targets then you move on to your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc options. You can't tell me there is no one out there that is a realistic upgrade on Byron Moore for example. Maybe there is better options. But maybe DC doesn't think they are value for money, he may think they wont fit in with the rest of the squad etc, etc, etc Again it may just come down to the fact that DC wont just sign anybody for the sake of it. Fully agree. One of the things I have noticed in interviews with the new players, is just how good they say the dressing room spirit is. At least one has said that he has never seen anything like it, with all players getting on and being supportive. Also, it appears from a distance that transfer fees in Div 1 have gone up a notch in this transfer window and DC (thankfully) has not been prepared to pay what he sees as being too high a price. Yes, Peterborough and others play this game and make money, but doesn't necessarily mean the team is better / consistent. Anyone remember the days when we made big transfer fees and then re-invested them in the players wages of players past their prime like Pethick, Hillier etc.
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Post by madgas on Sept 1, 2017 7:10:15 GMT
Tend to agree with Tbone. Who cops more stick than most on here. The OP has written off a team that have won 4 on the bounce having played some of the toughest fixtures available. To those that believe in the squad- the OP is pretty offensive. Throw our dolly's out the pram too much. We'll be ok. Well, if it's so easy to refute, then it could probably be done without just insulting him. Lots of other posts in the thread managed it. I agree with the overall premise of insulting people is bad. But the original post isn't much to go on in the first place. There is nothing constructive in its critique. Just cliches. In my opinion it was written to provocate. Someone bit. In my opinion it's trolling each other. Had the OP stated with any reason why things are so bad. I.e. In his mind the strikers still aren't good enough or whatever, I would say 'attack the post and not the poster' but the OP has not. This is not an attack on SteveK who does attend loads of matches and has respect for that as a minimum. I've been critical of the match reports at times but I do read them every week. And enjoy the differing opinion. It's more that I find being told something I spend lots of money and time on having no chance of success (top 6) without any rhyme or reason more insulting than any name calling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 7:35:18 GMT
I think people on here are too critical of stevek he goes to every game and wants the best for the club i know we all want the same but like me he's probably over ambitious too soon but 55 years waiting for a stadium with better facilities etc can be very frustrating,we have a great manager in place and good squad but there's always room for improvement do we have good owners now only time will tell we're a little club in a big city and way behind are neighbours.
So come on be fair to stevek especially when you got a so called gashead calling fans scabs.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 1, 2017 7:36:17 GMT
I am actually disappointed we didn't make a couple of signings too tbh. I worry if Ollie Clarke gets injured for example as we don't have anouther DM and we've released Montano, but now have only Byron Moore on LW who I am not convinced by. Up front we'll be ok if Ellis keeps his form up, otherwise we are lacking there too.
Obviously on the bright side, Bodin is staying. I don't see him being here this time next year though (unless we get promoted).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 8:05:47 GMT
I am actually disappointed we didn't make a couple of signings too tbh. I worry if Ollie Clarke gets injured for example as we don't have anouther DM and we've released Montano, but now have only Byron Moore on LW who I am not convinced by. Up front we'll be ok if Ellis keeps his form up, otherwise we are lacking there too. Obviously on the bright side, Bodin is staying. I don't see him being here this time next year though (unless we get promoted). This exactly how I feel and it's not being negative it's just that we have needlessly left ourselves exposed in a couple of positions and perhaps limited the formations we can adopt. Overall I'm quite happy with the squad now that Harrison appears to have found some form and with Telford having shown what he can do. I'm not sure about Nicholson but time will tell if he strong enough for this division. Must get the Bodin contract position sorted if at all possible or we are going to see him go for next to nothing in January or walk next summer. Personally, if he did not want to sign a new contract then I would have moved him on earlier in the window and tried for Wheeler. But we are where we are and just hope we don't get stitched-up. So I'm not negative and I think some of the negativity we are seeing steps from the feeling of being let down on UWE/ stadium development and the greater detachment we are seeing from the family which has created uncertainty and rumours. If we can get plans moving at the Mem and work started on the Colony then I think we will see confidence restored. But that's a lot of buts.
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Post by knowall on Sept 1, 2017 8:11:35 GMT
Knowall, I note you agree with Oldie and say well done to DC for avoiding Deadline day mayhem but this was very much my point- we have had the entire summer to sign a left winger and a defensive midfielder and it is DCs/owners fault it has gone to the last day and still these positions have not been filled (only three weeks ago DC was saying we needed them!!) No doubt the January window will go the same way and end up in the last day madness. DC has said himself that he cannot always be the Houdini and get the team performing above themselves. Granted perhaps he is not to blame and the owners may not have given sufficient funds but I don't recall DC querying the fact that Steve Hamer said he had a top six budget and was happy with it. Perhaps it was the case when Steve Hamer said it but of course he is not well liked so easy for him to be given all the blame. Whilst I am pleased that Bodin remains I am disappointed that we have not brought in a minimum of 1 or 2. It seems many lesser clubs than ourselves have made gtood signings in the last week. But at what cost stevek192,? DC may well have wanted to sign others earlier on but, what if they didn't want to come, or the price was too high, wage demands too much, there are many and various reasons but surely the signings that have been made so far this season and the loans too are really good and when they settle in and blossom (as appears to be the case with Partington who remember is another non-league recruit - fantastic business that!) and we have two gold nuggets from Stoke. We all want more and better - but at what cost? Value is the name of the game - and quality not quantity
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 1, 2017 8:14:12 GMT
I am actually disappointed we didn't make a couple of signings too tbh. I worry if Ollie Clarke gets injured for example as we don't have anouther DM and we've released Montano, but now have only Byron Moore on LW who I am not convinced by. Up front we'll be ok if Ellis keeps his form up, otherwise we are lacking there too. Obviously on the bright side, Bodin is staying. I don't see him being here this time next year though (unless we get promoted). We haven't really been playing with wingers though?
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Post by albaron on Sept 1, 2017 8:21:04 GMT
I think people on here are too critical of stevek he goes to every game and wants the best for the club i know we all want the same but like me he's probably over ambitious too soon but 55 years waiting for a stadium with better facilities etc can be very frustrating,we have a great manager in place and good squad but there's always room for improvement do we have good owners now only time will tell we're a little club in a big city and way behind are neighbours. So come on be fair to stevek especially when you got a so called gashead calling fans scabs. This post is the most sensible one I have read in a very long time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 8:49:48 GMT
I am actually disappointed we didn't make a couple of signings too tbh. I worry if Ollie Clarke gets injured for example as we don't have anouther DM and we've released Montano, but now have only Byron Moore on LW who I am not convinced by. Up front we'll be ok if Ellis keeps his form up, otherwise we are lacking there too. Obviously on the bright side, Bodin is staying. I don't see him being here this time next year though (unless we get promoted). We haven't really been playing with wingers though? Precisely
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 8:52:57 GMT
Knowall, I note you agree with Oldie and say well done to DC for avoiding Deadline day mayhem but this was very much my point- we have had the entire summer to sign a left winger and a defensive midfielder and it is DCs/owners fault it has gone to the last day and still these positions have not been filled (only three weeks ago DC was saying we needed them!!) No doubt the January window will go the same way and end up in the last day madness. DC has said himself that he cannot always be the Houdini and get the team performing above themselves. Granted perhaps he is not to blame and the owners may not have given sufficient funds but I don't recall DC querying the fact that Steve Hamer said he had a top six budget and was happy with it. Perhaps it was the case when Steve Hamer said it but of course he is not well liked so easy for him to be given all the blame. Whilst I am pleased that Bodin remains I am disappointed that we have not brought in a minimum of 1 or 2. It seems many lesser clubs than ourselves have made gtood signings in the last week. But at what cost stevek192,? DC may well have wanted to sign others earlier on but, what if they didn't want to come, or the price was too high, wage demands too much, there are many and various reasons but surely the signings that have been made so far this season and the loans too are really good and when they settle in and blossom (as appears to be the case with Partington who remember is another non-league recruit - fantastic business that!) and we have two gold nuggets from Stoke. We all want more and better - but at what cost? Value is the name of the game - and quality not quantity Precisely
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Post by althepirate on Sept 1, 2017 9:01:29 GMT
I think we can only be disappointed if we are looking for total perfection and where can you find that in football or indeed in life? I am sure DC wanted to add to the squad but wasn't able to get the player(s) he wanted and so he has the patience and the money to wait. If posters are saying we don't have the money I think we would have heard from DC in fact I don't think he would still be here now if that was the case. I suggest some fans need more patience and it's a time to remind themselves where we've come from.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 9:08:28 GMT
Hugely unexpected (for me) bonus to keep BB and the possibility of a great season ahead is very much alive.I do think Stevek is right regarding squad depth in midfield and a couple of long term injuries in that position would f**k us right up.Team is definitely stronger this season though,goalkeeper(s) Sweeney,Sercombe and Nichols will probably start most games,while Bola and Telford could also have a big role to play as well.Stevek's frustration obviously comes from not fulfilling the original 10 or so stated newcomers plus 'bigger' name players going to other league 1 teams for big money,lots of them are going down the league ladder though and although some will say it's simply a lack of investment from the owners,I am pretty confident DC has got it right.He would have liked a couple more signings but so would every manager with an ounce of ambition.As always,the fans will now get behind the boys big time,it's what we do innit.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 1, 2017 9:15:44 GMT
We haven't really been playing with wingers though? Precisely I mean, we haven't been playing a formation where wide midfielders are required. So why do we require a wide midfielder?
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 1, 2017 9:18:02 GMT
I think people on here are too critical of stevek he goes to every game and wants the best for the club i know we all want the same but like me he's probably over ambitious too soon but 55 years waiting for a stadium with better facilities etc can be very frustrating,we have a great manager in place and good squad but there's always room for improvement do we have good owners now only time will tell we're a little club in a big city and way behind are neighbours. So come on be fair to stevek especially when you got a so called gashead calling fans scabs. Fair enough, I think its that Steve is a bit heavy on the hyperbole, and it bugs some people. Everything is either triumph or disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 9:24:34 GMT
I mean, we haven't been playing a formation where wide midfielders are required. So why do we require a wide midfielder? To give options and allow a change in formation when necessary.
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Post by readinggas on Sept 1, 2017 9:35:20 GMT
plus 'bigger' name players going to other league 1 teams for big money,lots of them are going down the league ladder though and although some will say it's simply a lack of investment from the owners,I am pretty confident DC has got it right.He would have liked a couple more signings but so would every manager with an ounce of ambition Agree. We should be thankful that we have a manager who treats our club's finances with the same respect he would treat his own bank account (especially when I see clubs like Bury flinging it about like a coked-up office secretary at the Xmas party - and we always know how that ends...). If DC had an issue with money being made available, I get the feeling we'd know about it.
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Post by axegas on Sept 1, 2017 10:00:37 GMT
I mean, we haven't been playing a formation where wide midfielders are required. So why do we require a wide midfielder? To give options and allow a change in formation when necessary. Good job we have Byron Moore then
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