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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 10, 2017 19:50:40 GMT
Tuesday is important but he must be ready for first team action if DC has him on the bench and he played 30 minutes yesterday. I thought he was ok and everyone has to make their debut and have a first game. I'd rather the CHs learn to mark at corners, that seems to be more of a problem. And although you should never be complacent or underestimate the opposition the idea of a free scoring Oldham made me smile. I don't think anyone considers that to be the case. We are at home, I hope we will see an attacking performance. If you were to choose a match for a young keeper to make his debut against then I doubt if playing a club at the bottom at home would be far away from being a good choice. Give the lad a chance, play him and that should concentrate the minds of the defence as well and bring out the best in them. By the way, I'm aware this could come back to bite me but hey, talk him up, give him confidence and not look for reasons to not play him. And what a message playing him will give to the development squad. UTG! Good point, I think: We have had young goalkeepers in the past who have not been trusted or thought capable of being named on the bench. Indeed, we have played without a goalkeeper as substitute at times. I think the fact that he was picked and had to be called upon, proves that DC has some faith in him.You also make a good point regarding the quality of the team we are facing: If we are to get promotion, we need to impress ourselves on the opposition. If we do that, then our goalkeeper(s) should not be looked upon as being a main factor. DC didn't have any choice as we couldn't bring in an emergency loan goalie just to be a sub?
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Post by Dr Gas on Sept 10, 2017 19:54:03 GMT
Good point, I think: We have had young goalkeepers in the past who have not been trusted or thought capable of being named on the bench. Indeed, we have played without a goalkeeper as substitute at times. I think the fact that he was picked and had to be called upon, proves that DC has some faith in him.You also make a good point regarding the quality of the team we are facing: If we are to get promotion, we need to impress ourselves on the opposition. If we do that, then our goalkeeper(s) should not be looked upon as being a main factor. DC didn't have any choice as we couldn't bring in an emergency loan goalie just to be a sub? Your responses to posts are so selective. Who the hell suggested getting an on loan goalkeeper to be sub yesterday? Did you not see the part about us sometimes not naming a substitute goalkeeper? I am not sure how I can express my disbelief at the general inability of you to post to address the points in question, without appearing to be attacking you, as the poster.
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Post by socrates on Sept 10, 2017 20:32:17 GMT
Andre certainly seems to have got the nod from the majority of our fan base on here. I chose him in the poll but I don't think DC will start him Tuesday or at least will try not to but may have to if he doesn't get another in.
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 10, 2017 21:00:03 GMT
My heart says give Andre a try but my head says no. He did really well to come on under such pressure and also made a couple of good saves. Unfortunately though I do worry that this would be far to early for the lad at this stage, especially as Tuesday is a very important game for us to try and get another 3 points. I think Saturday was one of those games where if the lad made a mistake or two it would of been forgiven due to the circumstances we found ourselves in as it seemed that everything was going against us and we had the backs against the wall mentality. Tuesday however I think will be totally different, he will be on from the first minute and not thrown on without too much notice to think about it ,also Oldham will be well aware that this lad will be a rookie as it's been highly publicised so they might shoot on sight , rough him up at set pieces etc. Obviously if we can't get another gk in then we will have to stick with Andre and I will be 100% behind him but, personally I think we need experience if we can.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Sept 10, 2017 21:18:46 GMT
The only way Andre is going to get experience is by playing he is on a high at the moment and another good game in front of a home crowd backing him all the way will do him the world of good by dropping him that will destroy his confidence
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 10, 2017 21:32:10 GMT
The only way Andre is going to get experience is by playing he is on a high at the moment and another good game in front of a home crowd backing him all the way will do him the world of good by dropping him that will destroy his confidence I think the opposite, if he plays and makes a clanger or two that will destroy his confidence and 90 mins of football is a long time when things aren't going your way especially for a keeper as you're either a hero or villain, regardless of what happens Tuesday in terms of gk's I will be right behind whoever is between the sticks
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 10, 2017 22:15:21 GMT
I reckon that DC will already know what he is going to do but we won't know until just before the match. DC always keeps these things close to his chest. If he wants to bring someone in on loan then he will have been sorting it out this weekend so he can be available for training tomorrow and the bit they have on Tuesday. I hope they give Andre a chance but those on here who are favouring the loan option make a good case, it's not often on here when you get differences of opinion that you can understand both points of view. DC will have to make a call and then stand by it as he does all the time. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 22:49:05 GMT
In some ways it is a bigger worry as to who will play in the midfield thanks to DC leaving us so short on midfielders and wide men. Last season we were playing 2 in the central midfield with the choice of Mansell, Sinclair, Colkett, Boetang, Lines and Ollie Clarke with the added bonus of Easter being able to drop back as well and also we had 4 going for the wide berths in Bodin, Montano, Moore and Broom. that's 11 players going for the 4 positions with only Broom being inexperienced. This season we are playing three as midfielders with only Lines, Sercombe, Ollie Clarke and Sinclair in contention and Lines and Sinclair probably unavailable on Tuesday. If we decide to play two wide men then really we only have Moore and Bodin with experience. Broom,hargreaves,russe,andre,all good lads and the only way they can get experience is to play them. People calling for telford to play on the strength of 2 goals v wycombe but broom scored twice as well. We have a great tradition of playing very young players from tony pulis/david williams to tom lockyer/ellis harrison. Sometimes you play a youngster and he just stays in the team on merit. I will be disgusted if andre dosnt play tuesday no matter how it pans out if he does.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 23:24:18 GMT
He's not ready to start yet he's a goalkeeper and needs to be blooded in games like the cup we're in against the likes of Swindon West Ham u21 etc and that's why we have a development squad.
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Post by socrates on Sept 11, 2017 9:18:04 GMT
My heart says give Andre a try but my head says no. He did really well to come on under such pressure and also made a couple of good saves. Unfortunately though I do worry that this would be far to early for the lad at this stage, especially as Tuesday is a very important game for us to try and get another 3 points. I think Saturday was one of those games where if the lad made a mistake or two it would of been forgiven due to the circumstances we found ourselves in as it seemed that everything was going against us and we had the backs against the wall mentality. Tuesday however I think will be totally different, he will be on from the first minute and not thrown on without too much notice to think about it ,also Oldham will be well aware that this lad will be a rookie as it's been highly publicised so they might shoot on sight , rough him up at set pieces etc. Obviously if we can't get another gk in then we will have to stick with Andre and I will be 100% behind him but, personally I think we need experience if we can. I agree with you but I also want him to start I'm completely split 50/50 on it lol Just glad I don't have to make the decision and DC does !!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 11, 2017 9:40:26 GMT
In some ways it is a bigger worry as to who will play in the midfield thanks to DC leaving us so short on midfielders and wide men. Last season we were playing 2 in the central midfield with the choice of Mansell, Sinclair, Colkett, Boetang, Lines and Ollie Clarke with the added bonus of Easter being able to drop back as well and also we had 4 going for the wide berths in Bodin, Montano, Moore and Broom. that's 11 players going for the 4 positions with only Broom being inexperienced. This season we are playing three as midfielders with only Lines, Sercombe, Ollie Clarke and Sinclair in contention and Lines and Sinclair probably unavailable on Tuesday. If we decide to play two wide men then really we only have Moore and Bodin with experience. Broom,hargreaves,russe,andre,all good lads and the only way they can get experience is to play them. People calling for telford to play on the strength of 2 goals v wycombe but broom scored twice as well. We have a great tradition of playing very young players from tony pulis/david williams to tom lockyer/ellis harrison. Sometimes you play a youngster and he just stays in the team on merit. I will be disgusted if andre dosnt play tuesday no matter how it pans out if he does. "disgusting" or just DC's made the correct decision, knowing the player, to protect him by not starting him on Tuesday.
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Post by lympstonegas on Sept 11, 2017 9:44:02 GMT
I know he gets it wrong simetimes as we all do but DC will know whether Andre is ready to start the Oldham game or not or the need to get someone in today as the risk around Andre is too great. I suppose if he gets someone in today it would be a marker as to whether Andre will play Tuesday but having said that we will still need some cover for Andre regardless if he is deemed the only fit keeper ready for the first team squad.
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Sept 11, 2017 9:53:57 GMT
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 11, 2017 10:35:26 GMT
Judging by DCs interview I reckon it will be Andre for Tuesday. Slocombe to come back after that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:36:29 GMT
Broom,hargreaves,russe,andre,all good lads and the only way they can get experience is to play them. People calling for telford to play on the strength of 2 goals v wycombe but broom scored twice as well. We have a great tradition of playing very young players from tony pulis/david williams to tom lockyer/ellis harrison. Sometimes you play a youngster and he just stays in the team on merit. I will be disgusted if andre dosnt play tuesday no matter how it pans out if he does. "disgusting" or just DC's made the correct decision, knowing the player, to protect him by not starting him on Tuesday. I think he will start.
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Post by pirate on Sept 11, 2017 10:36:45 GMT
Judging by DCs interview I reckon it will be Andre for Tuesday. Slocombe to come back after that. Who do you reckon will be on the bench?
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Post by spiess1 on Sept 11, 2017 10:45:04 GMT
DC
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Post by Okebournegas on Sept 11, 2017 10:55:49 GMT
That man...... is a ........ legend 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by Parrot on Sept 11, 2017 11:24:45 GMT
Judging by DCs interview I reckon it will be Andre for Tuesday. Slocombe to come back after that. Who do you reckon will be on the bench? Macca
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 11, 2017 11:30:13 GMT
Who do you reckon will be on the bench? Macca Put your gloves back in the drawer Parrot
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