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Post by lympstonegas on Sept 13, 2017 13:57:20 GMT
Did you post that he made too many changes during the 2 promotions and the high finish last season? Thats his style,where have you been?? I dont think any keeper would have saved the 1st goal with the fierce wind behind him and no pressure from our midfield,no wonder it flew in. Rubbish he was out of position for both goals. As for changes yes he got away with it before but teams are more streetwise in this division IMHO it came down to fine lines or all ifs and buts but the bottom line is we made more school boy errors than Oldham. Yes, it was very windy and we didn't take advantage of it in the half as we should have done as Oldham did. Any shot hit with pace in that wind was going to trouble a keeper but I do feel Smith should have saved it along with the 2nd goal where he got beat on his near post from the shot from their strong No9 who troubled Leadbetter all game. And finally under no circumstances should 3 players have allowed their player to turn on the bye line and cross for their 3rd goal. IMHO all 3 goals could have been prevented and if so we could have won that game 3-1 - they hit the bar; and alongside Gaffneys 2 goals I feel Ellis scuffed a shot that he should have scored with at the near post in the first half. These are the fine margins I mean and regardless of who played and didn't, whether Bodin was swapped to accommodate Moore or not individual mistakes lost that game.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 13, 2017 13:58:30 GMT
Gaffney was nowhere near it....was he? Him and Leadbiter made a right pigs ear of trying to clear got mixed up and gave their number 9 ample time and space to cross Think you owe Gaffney an apology, the only players there were Leadbitter, Sercombe, and Bodin. You can even see their numbers clear as day in the highlights, 7 and 10. Bodin was the biggest culprit, just watched while their players ran into space.
Gaffney's hard to miss...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 14:05:42 GMT
Him and Leadbiter made a right pigs ear of trying to clear got mixed up and gave their number 9 ample time and space to cross Think you owe Gaffney an apology, the only players there were Leadbitter, Sercombe, and Bodin. You can even see their numbers clear as day in the highlights, 7 and 10. Bodin was the biggest culprit, just watched while their players ran into space.
Gaffney's hard to miss...
Just watch in the build up to the cross to see gaffney participation
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 13, 2017 14:18:26 GMT
Think you owe Gaffney an apology, the only players there were Leadbitter, Sercombe, and Bodin. You can even see their numbers clear as day in the highlights, 7 and 10. Bodin was the biggest culprit, just watched while their players ran into space.
Gaffney's hard to miss...
Just watch in the build up to the cross to see gaffney participation The footage starts with the throw-in, 14 seconds before the cross. He's not on screen, and doesn't appear at any time.
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Post by chilly1883 on Sept 13, 2017 15:11:18 GMT
You can't blame it on the weather. Oldham had to play in it as well! I used to be a tidy striker, and I loved conditions like last night, as it meant defenders were liable to make more mistakes than usual. Dare I say it, but Bradford away, and last night, we could have done with The Beard? Other things for DC to ponder. I didn't see the game, but apparently Bola was outstanding at Fulham. Should he be given a start? Telford. One appearance, two goals. Should he at least be brought on at some stage, or even start a game? Partington - Has to play more. I understand that he is still building his overall fitness up, but so far he has been very good every game he has played. Of course, we do not see what goes on in training. How do players perform?, do they impress? We do not know about any niggling injuries etc. A sensible post which I endorse,but not welcomed on here. Why people can't accept the other team might deserve some credit is beyond me. And yes,Bola was bloody great at Fulham & deserves a start. im all giving credit where due, but Oldham in the first half, were the worst team I've seen this season, by a mile. We didn't take advantage of that, and that's what happens. You get punished.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 13, 2017 15:32:58 GMT
Think you owe Gaffney an apology, the only players there were Leadbitter, Sercombe, and Bodin. You can even see their numbers clear as day in the highlights, 7 and 10. Bodin was the biggest culprit, just watched while their players ran into space.
Gaffney's hard to miss...
Just watch in the build up to the cross to see gaffney participation I think this is taking being pro Ellis/Anti Gaffers a bit too far TBH!!!
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Post by oddsongas on Sept 13, 2017 15:35:25 GMT
Just watch in the build up to the cross to see gaffney participation I think this is taking being pro Ellis/Anti Gaffers a bit too far TBH!!! And he has a go at people singling out Elis!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 16:41:24 GMT
Just watch in the build up to the cross to see gaffney participation I think this is taking being pro Ellis/Anti Gaffers a bit too far TBH!!! As opposed to the general pro gaffney anti Ellis stance on here
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 16:42:13 GMT
I think this is taking being pro Ellis/Anti Gaffers a bit too far TBH!!! And he has a go at people singling out Elis! Sorry if I don't follow the herd
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Post by garystash on Sept 13, 2017 17:20:11 GMT
So any time we're not happy with the way the game is going, we can just flop on the ball, and get a drop ball, from now on, right? I thought it was ridiculous at the time, but looking at that footage it is just blatant cheating!
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Post by William Wilson on Sept 13, 2017 17:33:43 GMT
Yatetown - Harrison had 2 very good chances - one in first and another in the second - he didn't even hit the target with them !! So NO - as a striker he had a disappointing game tonight. Bodin, didn't have a blinder but he wasn't poor - he improved as the game went on - one exciting run and roll back set up Nichols whose shot was well saved, he then set up Gaffney brilliantly for his goal. I guess from this Bodin can do no wrong and Harrison no right? I wouldn't have been shocked if Bodin was taken off, he was poor Saturday and again tonight, may need a kick up the arse! I wouldn't even be shocked to see him benched Saturday, but we all know he'll play! Harrison was everywhere tonight, looked strong, winning headers, pressing high, basically everything Gaffney gets praise for, he's only fault was finding the net, but he should have actually stayed on the pitch tonight! I agree. Lines and Gaffney were the right two players to come on, but Clarke and Harrison were the wrong two players to come off. I`d have taken off the lightweight Nichols, who offered us nothing in attack. And I`d have subbed Sercombe, who was poor against Walsall, and worse last night.
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 13, 2017 18:09:48 GMT
ellis impressive? He missed another 2 sitters tonight,he isn't a top half l1 striker and don't get why he starts Gaffney much better footballer and finisher Especially in our own box where gaffney is a liability hence the winning goal where he made a pigs ear of clearing.instead of hitting it into row zone he tried to dribble it out and lost it its not his bloody job to be back defending,and it wouldn't of mattered if he took his chances in first half Get your tongue out his backside he's l2 at very best
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Post by oddsongas on Sept 13, 2017 18:20:34 GMT
I guess from this Bodin can do no wrong and Harrison no right? I wouldn't have been shocked if Bodin was taken off, he was poor Saturday and again tonight, may need a kick up the arse! I wouldn't even be shocked to see him benched Saturday, but we all know he'll play! Harrison was everywhere tonight, looked strong, winning headers, pressing high, basically everything Gaffney gets praise for, he's only fault was finding the net, but he should have actually stayed on the pitch tonight! I agree. Lines and Gaffney were the right two players to come on, but Clarke and Harrison were the wrong two players to come off. I`d have taken off the lightweight Nichols, who offered us nothing in attack. And I`d have subbed Sercombe, who was poor against Walsall, and worse last night. crazy how 1 game can offer such different opinions! I though the 2 players taken off were correct and were the 2 struggling the most! Thought sercombe was okay tbf and at least tried to run with the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 23:16:20 GMT
Did you post that he made too many changes during the 2 promotions and the high finish last season? Thats his style,where have you been?? I dont think any keeper would have saved the 1st goal with the fierce wind behind him and no pressure from our midfield,no wonder it flew in. No, don't normally post on here due to people replying trying to start an argument! Been watching the gas since the 70's and go to nearly all home games and some away games, enough of a cv to post on here if I choose to. Said it every time it happened during DC's reign to the people I go with. DC has done an amazing job and had success we could only have dreamed of, but that does not mean people have to agree with everything he does. From my angle in the West enclosure, I would expect any professional keeper to save that first goal. The midfield appeared to be taken by surprise the goal kick help up in the wind and as a result weren't in a position to get near the guy, so poor positioning by our midfield and bad keeping for me. Whatever style and funny ways a manager has its always fine if your winning but its the wrong way when your losing,so you get people saying why change the team? but they never mentioned it when we won and made changes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 23:19:29 GMT
Did you post that he made too many changes during the 2 promotions and the high finish last season? Thats his style,where have you been?? I dont think any keeper would have saved the 1st goal with the fierce wind behind him and no pressure from our midfield,no wonder it flew in. Rubbish he was out of position for both goals. As for changes yes he got away with it before but teams are more streetwise in this division Its all opinions but ive looked at the video and i was at the game and i dont think he had a chance with the 1st goal. But the manager blamed him for both goals and ripped him to pieces in the post match interview so maybe my opinion is a minority one?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 23:23:06 GMT
Him and Leadbiter made a right pigs ear of trying to clear got mixed up and gave their number 9 ample time and space to cross Think you owe Gaffney an apology, the only players there were Leadbitter, Sercombe, and Bodin. You can even see their numbers clear as day in the highlights, 7 and 10. Bodin was the biggest culprit, just watched while their players ran into space.
Gaffney's hard to miss...
Your right it was sercombe,leadbitter and bodin and all 3 could have done better
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Post by Raj Gas on Sept 14, 2017 6:11:49 GMT
Rubbish he was out of position for both goals. As for changes yes he got away with it before but teams are more streetwise in this division Its all opinions but ive looked at the video and i was at the game and i dont think he had a chance with the 1st goal. But the manager blamed him for both goals and ripped him to pieces in the post match interview so maybe my opinion is a minority one? It is easy for DC to blame the keeper, who has been out with a hand injury and had hardly trained so much so that they registered Mildy the day before. Smith is vying for the No 1 spot he is hardly going to turn down the chance, sorry DC but I think you made the wrong call.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 14, 2017 7:44:19 GMT
And he has a go at people singling out Elis! Sorry if I don't follow the herd There's a difference between not following the herd, and blaming someone for something that didn't happen. I notice that you haven't owned up that you were wrong to blame Gaffney for the causing the winning goal.
BTW, right now I would play both Ellis and Gaffney...
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Post by socrates on Sept 14, 2017 9:24:04 GMT
Rubbish he was out of position for both goals. As for changes yes he got away with it before but teams are more streetwise in this division Its all opinions but ive looked at the video and i was at the game and i dont think he had a chance with the 1st goal. But the manager blamed him for both goals and ripped him to pieces in the post match interview so maybe my opinion is a minority one? I agree ,if we're looking for blame first goal is starts with the midfield two closest to the ball not concentrating and seeing that it was held up in the wind and not making any effort to get under it, then you've got Lockyer and Seeeny running away from the on running scorer whilst both marking the same player. One of them should have gone with the runner and the other should have held his ground and tried to tackle him or block the shot. The shot was very good and it's no wonder he hit it so well he had an eternity to look up get it on his best foot and strike it. If any blame goes to the keeper for it then perhaps he should have kicked it wide not down the middle as he was clearly kicking in to a strong wind. The second goal was an injured keeper diving badly towards his injured side and he should have been off and Andre on by that point.
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Post by curlywurly on Sept 14, 2017 9:27:56 GMT
So any time we're not happy with the way the game is going, we can just flop on the ball, and get a drop ball, from now on, right? Wow. At the time, I wasn't so sure, but that was so blatant and the Ref was right on the spot.
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