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Post by inee on Sept 19, 2017 13:57:21 GMT
The pc brigade and elf and safety muppets are ruining our lives go back even 10 years and you could say what you like and by the way I still do all of the s getting completely out of hand and beyond stupid soon we will not be able to say anything without fear of getting abused from daft quangos Imagine my shock that there's a thread about decency, morals and anything slightly (in)tolerance-related, and MidlandGas is the first to reply. Same way Chelsea were quick to denounce the song about Morata disliking Jews, you can't sing anything with a racial/ethnicity nod in it. That's the way it is, no matter what these "Brits Abroad" types will have you believe. Ah that old chestnut, someone mistaking so-called race(were all from the human race) for religion, damn how can people do that |
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 19, 2017 13:57:42 GMT
These threads always terrify me to be honest! Highlights the fact that we do have a racist element within this clubs fan base. Very sad. And some believe its actually ok and just a bit non PC... |
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Post by inee on Sept 19, 2017 14:00:27 GMT
Not sure watching the gas is classed as modern football. We play in a 1920's stadium with 1920's supporters.....  Ha good point. Can't even get hot pasties (if other rants are to be believed) WHERE'S THE MONEY @whale? This is probably the most racist reply i've seen on this thread, for someone who screams racist at others, it seems your are stereotyping someone from another country and his money, then mocking his name, unbelievable |
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Post by Baxtinho on Sept 19, 2017 14:00:49 GMT
Imagine my shock that there's a thread about decency, morals and anything slightly (in)tolerance-related, and MidlandGas is the first to reply. Same way Chelsea were quick to denounce the song about Morata disliking Jews, you can't sing anything with a racial/ethnicity nod in it. That's the way it is, no matter what these "Brits Abroad" types will have you believe. Ah that old chestnut, someone mistaking so-called race(were all from the human race) for religion, damn how can people do that My point was that clubs are moving to stamp out songs that a body of fans might be upset to hear. I get it that you don't seem to like my stance. |
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 19, 2017 14:01:45 GMT
Yeah bring back the days when you could call someone a N word attempted report in the street I say! If your life is being ruined because you can't racially abuse someone then you need to have a serious look at your life! I don't think he's saying that, what i do find strange about this thread is the openness those who think they are not racist use the n word p work etc,you couldn't make this stuff up, What is he saying then? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 14:05:14 GMT
Seriously, did you ban Irish People (p a d d y )? FFS, one of my best friend's answer's to the name P A D D Y. He's Irish, and it's not his real name. An irish gashead found it offensive. Now you can either be respectful of that, or you can be ignorant and carry on as you were. Now your friend has embraced it, good on him, doesnt mean its the same for everyone. But everyone is affected by the ban, or the auto word change that has been implemented. All are affected, because just one person is offended? What complete and utter bollox. I'm offended that you call me ignorant! Are you going to ban yourself? |
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Post by inee on Sept 19, 2017 14:07:07 GMT
(1) Where in the word immigrants does he mention racism, you seem to be one of those fluffy cloud dwellers who believe in freedom of speech as long as everyone agrees with you (2)Why would you assume the poster has or is going to an anti religion rally, do you or have you ever understood what the edl was set up for(although Robinson has nothing to do with the edl now) It appears you believe everything you are told about the nasty white people of this country Fair comment about Robinson, and I'm not suggesting he does, but some of the views he expresses on here certainly tally with what I know of the EDL. It might be nice to live on a fluffy cloud, it'd be nicer if everyone agreed with me (albeit rather boring), but if people could not be offended by being told singing a song with racial undertones was wrong, that'd be nicest of all. As you said in another reply (I think to TommyM), the culture of people saying "I'm not racist, but...", and vehemently denying that Rovers has a racism problem is the thing that needs looking at. I believe what I read from the nasty white people on this forum. No one is saying we don't have racists in the crowd,what they are saying is theres not that many(think of the Archie Stevens chant and how many took part) . What do you know of the edl as im very interested in what others perceive to believe. |
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Post by Baxtinho on Sept 19, 2017 14:07:07 GMT
Ha good point. Can't even get hot pasties (if other rants are to be believed) WHERE'S THE MONEY @whale? This is probably the most racist reply i've seen on this thread, for someone who screams racist at others, it seems your are stereotyping someone from another country and his money, then mocking his name, unbelievable Ha, c'mon mate. You know that's just a dig at the people on twitter who @ Wael after a defeat. Very tongue in cheek that one, replying in keeping with the joke above it. I can't tell if you genuinely want to start a row or not |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 14:07:36 GMT
Ah that old chestnut, someone mistaking so-called race(were all from the human race) for religion, damn how can people do that My point was that clubs are moving to stamp out songs that a body of fans might be upset to hear. I get it that you don't seem to like my stance. So, your team go 1-0 up. The fans start singing, "1-0 to the Arsenal", or whatever, and that may upset the opposition fans. Are you going to ban that to? |
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Post by Baxtinho on Sept 19, 2017 14:10:47 GMT
Fair comment about Robinson, and I'm not suggesting he does, but some of the views he expresses on here certainly tally with what I know of the EDL. It might be nice to live on a fluffy cloud, it'd be nicer if everyone agreed with me (albeit rather boring), but if people could not be offended by being told singing a song with racial undertones was wrong, that'd be nicest of all. As you said in another reply (I think to TommyM), the culture of people saying "I'm not racist, but...", and vehemently denying that Rovers has a racism problem is the thing that needs looking at. I believe what I read from the nasty white people on this forum. No one is saying we don't have racists in the crowd,what they are saying is theres not that many(think of the Archie Stevens chant and how many took part) . What do you know of the edl as im very interested in what others perceive to believe. I've no interest in talking about that with you. |
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Post by Baxtinho on Sept 19, 2017 14:12:34 GMT
My point was that clubs are moving to stamp out songs that a body of fans might be upset to hear. I get it that you don't seem to like my stance. So, your team go 1-0 up. The fans start singing, "1-0 to the Arsenal", or whatever, and that may upset the opposition fans. Are you going to ban that to? Come on, don't be facetious. I'm not trying to stifle anything. The two chants in question were about the Jews, and a stereotype about black men. |
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Post by inee on Sept 19, 2017 14:12:54 GMT
This is probably the most racist reply i've seen on this thread, for someone who screams racist at others, it seems your are stereotyping someone from another country and his money, then mocking his name, unbelievable Ha, c'mon mate. You know that's just a dig at the people on twitter who @ Wael after a defeat. Very tongue in cheek that one, replying in keeping with the joke above it. I can't tell if you genuinely want to start a row or not Nah don't want a row just pointing out how something said as a joke can be perceived by others as racist same as a song about some one with a massive cock, i knew exactly what you meant and did smile at it, now had 3 or 4 others posted that in this thread then some would have been up in arms, based on what people have posted, you have to remember not everyone has the time or inclination to reply with a wink or a smile etc. As i said just making a point that it's easy to use the word racist without thinking it through  |
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Post by inee on Sept 19, 2017 14:28:18 GMT
No one is saying we don't have racists in the crowd,what they are saying is theres not that many(think of the Archie Stevens chant and how many took part) . What do you know of the edl as im very interested in what others perceive to believe. I've no interest in talking about that with you. Ah yet another person who does not want to speak to someone with different opinions, as their mind is closed, See this is where we are different i will speak to anyone no matter what they believe politically, and if i find i'm wrong (i don't mean wrong because you say it's wrong but wrong as in proven wrong by facts and not just assumptions then i will and have changed my views) Still you don't want to discuss something you bought up in an attempt to vilify another poster, based most likely on falsehoods  |
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 19, 2017 14:29:58 GMT
An irish gashead found it offensive. Now you can either be respectful of that, or you can be ignorant and carry on as you were. Now your friend has embraced it, good on him, doesnt mean its the same for everyone. But everyone is affected by the ban, or the auto word change that has been implemented. All are affected, because just one person is offended? What complete and utter bollox. I'm offended that you call me ignorant! Are you going to ban yourself? I'm sorry you feel that way. It's not bollox at all, its ignorance in the way of thinking how someone else might feel because you are unwilling to respect them. If you are offended by being called ignorant because you are unable to use a slang term of someone else's race or ethnicity then that is incredibly sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 17:30:04 GMT
But everyone is affected by the ban, or the auto word change that has been implemented. All are affected, because just one person is offended? What complete and utter bollox. I'm offended that you call me ignorant! Are you going to ban yourself? I'm sorry you feel that way. It's not bollox at all, its ignorance in the way of thinking how someone else might feel because you are unwilling to respect them. If you are offended by being called ignorant because you are unable to use a slang term of someone else's race or ethnicity then that is incredibly sad. How wrong can a blinkered idiot like yourself be. I recounted a story where one of my Irish friends is called P a d d y, and for that you call me ignorant. I think you should be more careful before you start insulting people. Please make some attempt at reading things correctly........will you be campaigning to get the title of the Brit Awards changed? Isn't that also a slang term, you complete and utter..........oh feck it, just ban me eh. |
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Post by drasim on Sept 19, 2017 18:19:00 GMT
I'm of the opinion that if 'Kick it Out' consider something racist, then so be it - in this case they do.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 19, 2017 18:23:27 GMT
I think if somebody sang a song about me being a 'honky with a 24" penis", I don't think for one second I'd feel racially abused.......In fact, I'd just laugh, and I would also laugh at anyone who thinks that I have been abused. What if they said you were ignorant of the entire history of race relations in the country, the history of slavery and victorian style scientific racism, more recent racism in the country, the clear inequalities between different races, the struggle for equal rights and equal treatment, and any other context that might make your comment ridiculous, or you were just pretending to be that ignorant so you could post disingenuous bullshit on the internet? And what's all that got to do with the size of his cock? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 19, 2017 18:28:55 GMT
So, your team go 1-0 up. The fans start singing, "1-0 to the Arsenal", or whatever, and that may upset the opposition fans. Are you going to ban that to? Come on, don't be facetious. I'm not trying to stifle anything. The two chants in question were about the Jews, and a stereotype about black men. The chant wasn't about the Jews at all. It was a song about Spurs, who happen to call themselves The Yids. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 18:46:08 GMT
I've obviously missed the evolutionary bit about the new amazing world of PC, so I'm having to learn as I go along. Is this racist? "Chris Eubank has just written a book about Ethics. If it's successful, he's going to write one about Kent!". Didn't know he was into model airplanes and ships  |
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Post by tommym9 on Sept 19, 2017 19:39:21 GMT
Come on, don't be facetious. I'm not trying to stifle anything. The two chants in question were about the Jews, and a stereotype about black men. The chant wasn't about the Jews at all. It was a song about Spurs, who happen to call themselves The Yids. I think you could do with looking up why spurs call themselves yids. Hint: it's massively about Jews |
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