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Post by drasim on Sept 21, 2017 11:56:35 GMT
Anyone seen on bbc site the story about 'super white army' banner being covered up for England ladies at Prenton park. It's the shirt colour and that is what it refers to, it cannot be misinterpreted surely Think I'll bin my season ticket. As I'm not a blue army smurf I no longer feel welcome Saw that this morning. Taking things a bit too far in that case. I get the feeling the FA are overreacting because of the Sampson shambles. I would have to agree in this case, but from what I see it's another example of certain social circles seeing something without context and making something out of nothing. I'm pretty sure this will be looked into and they'll be able to have the banner back in no time. In a way it would be funny to see a banner / hear a chant along the lines of: "We are the White Army Not that we have to be a White Army But because we play in white shirts. Not that we have anything against multi-coloured shirts, or shirts featuring other colours, We just traditionally wear white. Super just makes us sound good, not to be confused with supremacist But we understand the struggles of Instagram and Tumblr So we've simplified it to White Army (Because of our shirts)"
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Post by baggins on Sept 21, 2017 11:56:42 GMT
Why bin yer season ticket The chant 'Blue & White army' refers to my skin colour according to the FA so I don't feel I'd be welcome. Although I may sneak in if Smurfette makes an appearance at the mem She ain't all that.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 21, 2017 12:04:03 GMT
Why bin yer season ticket The chant 'Blue & White army' refers to my skin colour according to the FA so I don't feel I'd be welcome. Although I may sneak in if Smurfette makes an appearance at the memJoin the bloody queue. Oh, hang on a minute. Are dogs and smurfs allowed to get it on without upsetting someone?
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Post by baggins on Sept 21, 2017 12:44:33 GMT
The chant 'Blue & White army' refers to my skin colour according to the FA so I don't feel I'd be welcome. Although I may sneak in if Smurfette makes an appearance at the memJoin the bloody queue. Oh, hang on a minute. Are dogs and smurfs allowed to get it on without upsetting someone? Only the smurf.
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Post by pirate on Sept 21, 2017 17:31:32 GMT
Finally, someone asks the obvious question. Will the leftie pc brigade now pull themselves up for using the very stereotypes that they try to make people believe they stand against? No, I thought not. And that is what twists my nipples and makes i bleed purple water, don't matter what colour you are we all shitt n waters the same , i still find it odd that those who are there to allegedly make it better still have to define race with colour, when will these Simons realise that we all belong to one race and that is the human race, who knows when all these groups stop defining race by colour a lot of ill felling will disappear, it's easy to sit there and believe they do it to highlight injustice and equality, bollocks they do it because they get paid well to constantly stir up strife, again the same people haven't made any inroads to perceived racism all they have done is to drive racist groups underground and that my friends is far more dangerous than in the 70's - 80's when the nf were leafleting the streets etc. One reason people are so against immigration is that rather than be grateful for what they get they always want more and expect people to bend to their customs and will in the countries that accept them, here's an example very physically fit men of military age, well groomed ,well dressed set off on a long march to Europe, claiming refugee status ,the vast majority suffered no ill affects on the march to Europe ,in fact many looked as if they had just stepped out of their shower that morning, then what do they do start whining to be given more, fight the authorities and bite the hand that accepted em, i want to know why those who were in good physical condition didn't take up arms and fight for their homelands , why did the countries close to them not allow them in until their homelands were free, how many will go back home when the conflict ends, not many Now compare them to the refugees from bosnia and serbia when that region kicked of, people with a genuine look of fear in their eyes, grateful for the help received and many now productive members of society. A lot of people will criticise my post about the 70's and 80's however back then people knew who was who and what their beliefs were and no matter which side of the fence you were you could discuss these things without fear of being locked up ok you might have got a slap or two along the way but that was expected. Don't be fooled by the governments we've had as they might blow steam but they want a divided society ,they want people off their head on drugs ,they want the people divided as the type of people who get involved are the people they don't want to vote and it's not just the working classes ,theres a lot of upper middle class people they don't want voting ,as they would be sh** scared if every person eligible to vote voted. A large clue to the above was bLairs little whipping boy ,he refused to burn the poppy fields in afghanistan as the poor farmers would have a hard time, what about the poor lady gardens over here who are shooting up that sh**, they don't could do they Why are people against certain religions well that's an easy one because traditionally this is a christian country and whether you believe in a god or not it gave rise to freedoms ,other religions come here refuse to integrate and as their numbers rise demand more and more things are banned as it doesn't fit with what their 7th century ideologies call for, lets compare them to another religion which is almost identical, both don't like pig meat for some obscure reason, now both religions require their meat to be inhumanely slaughtered and due to that require animals to bleed out whilst alive (anyone who has been on a military survival course will know how an animal suffers when stunned and bled out) as opposed to the swift exit given by slaughterhouses using the bolt method. These meat must then have some sort of so called blessing, now the thing is for years one religion had their meat blessed and theirs alone, this kosher meat was available but not everywhere, the other religion although their book says in non halal countries they can eat kosher or in the total absence of either halal or kosher meat ,they could either eat it as is or bless it themselves. So one lot have had their meat blessed locally and never made a fuss as in reality it didn't matter to them that most meat wasn't kosher but they knew that they could buy it from their local butcher, no if's no but's they just got on with the business of buying meat from their local butcher who knew and catered for their needs, the other lot decided that this wasn't acceptable and demanded that the majority of meats were halal, so not wanting to upset them the majority of meat in this country is now halal and that irks me somewhat as i don't want some knobber slowly and painfully bleeding and blessing my meat , i want my meat prepared the uk way as painless a death as possible and not bloody spoken too, and yes for some of us it is extremely offensive. So we have one religion who have been here since before the J-man had his first J-Arthur in the desert quietly getting their food blessed but not forcing everyone to eat meat their way, the other lot decided that we should all eat meat their way and lily livered fools in power just bent down and collectively let it become acceptable, this is just one example where my choice has been eroded, imagine going to a muslim country and demanding that you be treated by the laws of your religion be implemented ,and you wanted unblessed meat, pig meat, booze, be allowed to keep a pet dog etc. Not sure about you but i'd expect to be run out of that country within seconds, so why the f**k should we roll over and deem it acceptable to have our traditions and way of life trampled on. There was a demo recently gays against muslim laws mainly focusing on gays being killed and persecuted world wide , now unbelievably theres were counter demos one from a gay group saying not in our name, and antifa wankstains against the gays against muslims, why i just cant believe one group who say they are pro gay, then round on them for protesting about a religion that is intolerant, the thing is how can people be educated on the fact that we are all human no matter what colour when you have so called anti racist idiots protesting against the very people they are supposed to represent. As i said earlier and has been mentioned by others these so called groups like kick it out are one sided and over the top, do you really think they want an end to alleged racism at football, no they don't as their overpaid littles arses would be unemployed, and the more sh** they stir up the longer they get paid.
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Post by drasim on Sept 21, 2017 19:08:36 GMT
Probably in contrast with Pirate's post, but Shanah Tovah - to any Jewish forum members here today.
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Post by pirate on Sept 21, 2017 19:19:06 GMT
Probably in contrast with Pirate's post, but Shanah Tovah - to any Jewish forum members here today. I agree, Shana Tovah to them.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 21, 2017 20:00:28 GMT
I see Mark Sampson has lost his job as Manager of England Ladies. Despite being cleared twice of the alleged offences, all because a repugnant scumbag Banned word made false allegations. Even more proof of Kick It Out being an incompetent joke of an organisation. Yep. Black person doesn't get what they want in life so takes the easy option and accuses a white person of racism. I've seen it so many times where I work. Missed promotion, bad rating etc. It's never the black person's fault for being a useless, lazy individual is it? It's always someone else's fault. It's so ingrained into them now that they know they can cause the utmost of trouble and hurt with just a simple allegation and they know they won't even get a rap on the knuckles when the allegations are proven to be false. Meanwhile, mud sticks where the accused is concerned.
This England player appears to have been an unsettling influence so was dropped. Then starts making accusations. Manager found not guilty by two independent reviews but then Kick It Out get to hear about it and start shouting from the rooftops. In these situations they will not give up until the white bloke has lost his job and now he has. It doesn't seem to matter to them whether he is guilty of anything, or not.
Why is it that on the occasions that I have been called anti white names by non-whites that I have just laughed at them? I don't go running home to mummy or ring a solicitor. But, if it was the other way round they would want me to lose my job and be locked up. After all, it's only white people who are racist. It doesn't matter how many times we get called white wankers, it won't wash in court because the whole World has been informed that only white people are racist. Any non whites clogging up our jails are only in there because they've been falsely imprisoned by racist white people. All non white people are the most pleasant and law abiding people you will ever meet - didn't you know that?
Well, I've tried to keep away from the politics and racism threads but my water is boiling and I have to say something. The England women's manager losing his job is the straw that has broke this camel's back. So, I've said my piece and I'll probably be banned now by one of the PC brigade moderators because I don't want to belong to their crowd and because my views are so different to theirs. However, it was nice being on here while it lasted.
A bit of a sweeping statement but I wouldn't say all people who are not Caucasian use the race card. I know some extremely hard working black people who have grafted and done well in life regardless of some of the prejudices they have faced. But I also wouldn't disagree that this has happened. Because in this country if you are white you are usually in the majority in number and have not been brought up in an environment where the potential to have your skin colour highlighted, had a heritage where you were deemed second class citizens because of your skin colour, had to programmes made where the insinuation was always that white skinned people were superior. The list can go on. My bro in law is black, I have been out to places where I'm the only white guy, it does make you feel conscious of who you are. So far the FA has not stated the exact reason for Mark Sampson's departure. All a little ambiguous right now. We don't know if it was anything to do with racism or if he was sleeping with a player.. Im not a lefty and your point was made clearly in non offensive language so you won't be banned. We didn't ban anyone either. A person chose to leave of his own accord.
*some text in bold to separate the post up not to highlight anything in particular.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 21, 2017 21:51:45 GMT
Finally, someone asks the obvious question. Will the leftie pc brigade now pull themselves up for using the very stereotypes that they try to make people believe they stand against? No, I thought not. And that is what twists my nipples and makes i bleed purple water, don't matter what colour you are we all shitt n waters the same , i still find it odd that those who are there to allegedly make it better still have to define race with colour, when will these Simons realise that we all belong to one race and that is the human race, who knows when all these groups stop defining race by colour a lot of ill felling will disappear, it's easy to sit there and believe they do it to highlight injustice and equality, bollocks they do it because they get paid well to constantly stir up strife, again the same people haven't made any inroads to perceived racism all they have done is to drive racist groups underground and that my friends is far more dangerous than in the 70's - 80's when the nf were leafleting the streets etc. Purple water? You need to cut down on the amount of beetroot in your sandwiches
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 21, 2017 22:05:38 GMT
Yep. Black person doesn't get what they want in life so takes the easy option and accuses a white person of racism. I've seen it so many times where I work. Missed promotion, bad rating etc. It's never the black person's fault for being a useless, lazy individual is it? It's always someone else's fault. It's so ingrained into them now that they know they can cause the utmost of trouble and hurt with just a simple allegation and they know they won't even get a rap on the knuckles when the allegations are proven to be false. Meanwhile, mud sticks where the accused is concerned.
This England player appears to have been an unsettling influence so was dropped. Then starts making accusations. Manager found not guilty by two independent reviews but then Kick It Out get to hear about it and start shouting from the rooftops. In these situations they will not give up until the white bloke has lost his job and now he has. It doesn't seem to matter to them whether he is guilty of anything, or not.
Why is it that on the occasions that I have been called anti white names by non-whites that I have just laughed at them? I don't go running home to mummy or ring a solicitor. But, if it was the other way round they would want me to lose my job and be locked up. After all, it's only white people who are racist. It doesn't matter how many times we get called white wankers, it won't wash in court because the whole World has been informed that only white people are racist. Any non whites clogging up our jails are only in there because they've been falsely imprisoned by racist white people. All non white people are the most pleasant and law abiding people you will ever meet - didn't you know that?
Well, I've tried to keep away from the politics and racism threads but my water is boiling and I have to say something. The England women's manager losing his job is the straw that has broke this camel's back. So, I've said my piece and I'll probably be banned now by one of the PC brigade moderators because I don't want to belong to their crowd and because my views are so different to theirs. However, it was nice being on here while it lasted.
A bit of a sweeping statement but I wouldn't say all people who are not Caucasian use the race card. I know some extremely hard working black people who have grafted and done well in life regardless of some of the prejudices they have faced. But I also wouldn't disagree that this has happened. Because in this country if you are white you are usually in the majority in number and have not been brought up in an environment where the potential to have your skin colour highlighted, had a heritage where you were deemed second class citizens because of your skin colour, had to programmes made where the insinuation was always that white skinned people were superior. The list can go on. My bro in law is black, I have been out to places where I'm the only white guy, it does make you feel conscious of who you are. So far the FA has not stated the exact reason for Mark Sampson's departure. All a little ambiguous right now. We don't know if it was anything to do with racism or if he was sleeping with a player.. Im not a lefty and your point was made clearly in non offensive language so you won't be banned. We didn't ban anyone either. A person chose to leave of his own accord.
*some text in bold to separate the post up not to highlight anything in particular. I actually agree with most of what you say. I too have a number of non white people that I class as friends. The points I was trying to get across are :-
A) The sun doesn't shine out of the arse of every non-white any more than it does out of whites B) When the race card does get played it only works one way C) I get very f**ked off with people that get upset on behalf of someone else. In plenty of instances the perceived "target" doesn't feel threatened or abused and isn't offended D) The loony pc brigade boil my water cos they have it in their heads that there is only one side to the discussion, and anyone with a conflicting view is automatically branded a right wing racist E) People like to read what they want into a situation just to cause trouble. Take Plymouth and their Green Army flags because of all things they have the audacity to play in green. Then contrast that with the White Army flags being covered up by the FA in the England Women's game when strangely enough England played at Tranmere who play in white. Who was actually offended?
Anyway, that's my view. Nobody has to like it, but neither do I have to sit around while the pc brigade rant their crap unopposed. Thanks for reading.
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Post by William Wilson on Sept 22, 2017 6:42:29 GMT
Probably in contrast with Pirate's post, but Shanah Tovah - to any Jewish forum members here today. Is she that American bird, who sang, "That don`t impress me, much?"
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 22, 2017 7:23:19 GMT
Probably in contrast with Pirate's post, but Shanah Tovah - to any Jewish forum members here today. Is she that American bird, who sang, "That don`t impress me, much?" Canadian
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Post by Marshy on Sept 22, 2017 7:24:24 GMT
Probably in contrast with Pirate's post, but Shanah Tovah - to any Jewish forum members here today. Is she that American bird, who sang, "That don`t impress me, much?" I thought Luke James sang that?
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 22, 2017 7:28:12 GMT
Is she that American bird, who sang, "That don`t impress me, much?" I thought Luke James sang that? Nah, it was the other way round. People sing it about him.
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Post by cagastrophy on Sept 22, 2017 10:17:36 GMT
I see Mark Sampson has lost his job as Manager of England Ladies. Despite being cleared twice of the alleged offences, all because a repugnant scumbag Banned word made false allegations. Even more proof of Kick It Out being an incompetent joke of an organisation. Yep. Black person doesn't get what they want in life so takes the easy option and accuses a white person of racism. I've seen it so many times where I work. Missed promotion, bad rating etc. It's never the black person's fault for being a useless, lazy individual is it? It's always someone else's fault. It's so ingrained into them now that they know they can cause the utmost of trouble and hurt with just a simple allegation and they know they won't even get a rap on the knuckles when the allegations are proven to be false. Meanwhile, mud sticks where the accused is concerned.
This England player appears to have been an unsettling influence so was dropped. Then starts making accusations. Manager found not guilty by two independent reviews but then Kick It Out get to hear about it and start shouting from the rooftops. In these situations they will not give up until the white bloke has lost his job and now he has. It doesn't seem to matter to them whether he is guilty of anything, or not.
Why is it that on the occasions that I have been called anti white names by non-whites that I have just laughed at them? I don't go running home to mummy or ring a solicitor. But, if it was the other way round they would want me to lose my job and be locked up. After all, it's only white people who are racist. It doesn't matter how many times we get called white wankers, it won't wash in court because the whole World has been informed that only white people are racist. Any non whites clogging up our jails are only in there because they've been falsely imprisoned by racist white people. All non white people are the most pleasant and law abiding people you will ever meet - didn't you know that?
Well, I've tried to keep away from the politics and racism threads but my water is boiling and I have to say something. The England women's manager losing his job is the straw that has broke this camel's back. So, I've said my piece and I'll probably be banned now by one of the PC brigade moderators because I don't want to belong to their crowd and because my views are so different to theirs. However, it was nice being on here while it lasted.
The thing is, the organization where I work is predominantly staffed by white middle class people, mostly women, so basically they're the majority, the same thing happens here, but it's the men being accused of sexism, I'm not saying it's just non-white people or women who cause trouble but in my experience a lot of humans are not willing to take the blame for their underperformance and would rather blame someone else. Meanwhile I just keep my head down and work hard and I've just been nominated for a promotion.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Sept 22, 2017 10:45:53 GMT
Yep. Black person doesn't get what they want in life so takes the easy option and accuses a white person of racism. I've seen it so many times where I work. Missed promotion, bad rating etc. It's never the black person's fault for being a useless, lazy individual is it? It's always someone else's fault. It's so ingrained into them now that they know they can cause the utmost of trouble and hurt with just a simple allegation and they know they won't even get a rap on the knuckles when the allegations are proven to be false. Meanwhile, mud sticks where the accused is concerned.
This England player appears to have been an unsettling influence so was dropped. Then starts making accusations. Manager found not guilty by two independent reviews but then Kick It Out get to hear about it and start shouting from the rooftops. In these situations they will not give up until the white bloke has lost his job and now he has. It doesn't seem to matter to them whether he is guilty of anything, or not.
Why is it that on the occasions that I have been called anti white names by non-whites that I have just laughed at them? I don't go running home to mummy or ring a solicitor. But, if it was the other way round they would want me to lose my job and be locked up. After all, it's only white people who are racist. It doesn't matter how many times we get called white wankers, it won't wash in court because the whole World has been informed that only white people are racist. Any non whites clogging up our jails are only in there because they've been falsely imprisoned by racist white people. All non white people are the most pleasant and law abiding people you will ever meet - didn't you know that?
Well, I've tried to keep away from the politics and racism threads but my water is boiling and I have to say something. The England women's manager losing his job is the straw that has broke this camel's back. So, I've said my piece and I'll probably be banned now by one of the PC brigade moderators because I don't want to belong to their crowd and because my views are so different to theirs. However, it was nice being on here while it lasted.
The thing is, the organization where I work is predominantly staffed by white middle class people, mostly women, so basically they're the majority, the same thing happens here, but it's the men being accused of sexism, I'm not saying it's just non-white people or women who cause trouble but in my experience a lot of humans are not willing to take the blame for their underperformance and would rather blame someone else. Meanwhile I just keep my head down and work hard and I've just been nominated for a promotion. Ah, but now you fall into the category of being the token promotion from the minority group that works at your place. They have to promote from the minority group now and then to prevent people accusing them of discrimination! lol
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 23, 2017 8:10:11 GMT
The thing is, the organization where I work is predominantly staffed by white middle class people, mostly women, so basically they're the majority, the same thing happens here, but it's the men being accused of sexism, I'm not saying it's just non-white people or women who cause trouble but in my experience a lot of humans are not willing to take the blame for their underperformance and would rather blame someone else. Meanwhile I just keep my head down and work hard and I've just been nominated for a promotion. Ah, but now you fall into the category of being the token promotion from the minority group that works at your place. They have to promote from the minority group now and then to prevent people accusing them of discrimination! lol Either that or you are yet more proof of the Glass Ceiling as the one person out of all those women who gets the top job is a man. I don't know how you can sleep at night.
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Post by cagastrophy on Sept 25, 2017 8:39:03 GMT
The thing is, the organization where I work is predominantly staffed by white middle class people, mostly women, so basically they're the majority, the same thing happens here, but it's the men being accused of sexism, I'm not saying it's just non-white people or women who cause trouble but in my experience a lot of humans are not willing to take the blame for their underperformance and would rather blame someone else. Meanwhile I just keep my head down and work hard and I've just been nominated for a promotion. Ah, but now you fall into the category of being the token promotion from the minority group that works at your place. They have to promote from the minority group now and then to prevent people accusing them of discrimination! lol Then they'll pay for their complacency!
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Post by cagastrophy on Sept 25, 2017 8:39:35 GMT
Ah, but now you fall into the category of being the token promotion from the minority group that works at your place. They have to promote from the minority group now and then to prevent people accusing them of discrimination! lol Either that or you are yet more proof of the Glass Ceiling as the one person out of all those women who gets the top job is a man. I don't know how you can sleep at night. On a pile of voluptuous minions
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