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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 18, 2017 18:22:37 GMT
We're Rovers Supporters we're faithful and true. Or are we ? Doesn't look like it.
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Post by paulpirate on Oct 18, 2017 18:39:39 GMT
Ridiculous thread, show some loyalty towards the team and our manager. Get behind them when having a bad spell, it won't help booing them off the pitch at half or full time. Christ alive some people need to have a reality check, what DC has done for this club since taking over has been nothing short of a miracle with the resources he had. Ok so it's not going so well and yes he needs to sort a few things out but doesn't he always. Our seasons are start slow end strong and he has my full backing. The inept manager's are the ones before him. UTG do you go to every away game?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 18, 2017 18:54:55 GMT
Broadbent, Andre, Rollin, the german striker & Broom have all appeared, who do you think is driving the development squad's existence if it's not DC? Broadbent was at fault for Oxford's goal so playing Sweeney made sense and I can't see he was directly to blame for any of the goals last night, Locks probably should be rested but is Rollin or Burn really going to be any better than a potential Wales International this summer. The fact DC's dropped Brown & Leads suggests he doesn't have too many favourites. Your right Sweeney was not a fault for the first goal as he didn't even make it back into our box by the time the ball was in the net ! the second, tell me please who was he marking along with Lock's ? the third he got done like a kipper by the bloke who put the cross in and before the fourth he was lucky again but for a good save from Slocombe. !! maybe have a look at the highlights !!!! How could he get back form a corner kicked straight to Shrews goalie? As far as the second as I said not directly to blame as if Locks had picked up his man he woul have stopped the shot, the third was rank poor defending again by Bola, which Parts copied for the 4th. I don't need to watch the highlights as I saw it live! TBH I don't care if Sweeney's at fault or not but at the moment he seems the slightly better than Broadbent, although god knows where the players gone who played so well when he joined us.
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Post by ansell1 on Oct 18, 2017 19:57:10 GMT
Your right Sweeney was not a fault for the first goal as he didn't even make it back into our box by the time the ball was in the net ! the second, tell me please who was he marking along with Lock's ? the third he got done like a kipper by the bloke who put the cross in and before the fourth he was lucky again but for a good save from Slocombe. !! maybe have a look at the highlights !!!! How could he get back form a corner kicked straight to Shrews goalie? As far as the second as I said not directly to blame as if Locks had picked up his man he woul have stopped the shot, the third was rank poor defending again by Bola, which Parts copied for the 4th. I don't need to watch the highlights as I saw it live! TBH I don't care if Sweeney's at fault or not but at the moment he seems the slightly better than Broadbent, although god knows where the players gone who played so well when he joined us. Others got back, just shows how slow he is !! I suggest you watch it again and look close at the 3rd goal and second ! are you related ? he's been poor all season !!
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Post by yategas78 on Oct 18, 2017 19:58:23 GMT
We have got serious defensive problems which will need addressing in Janurary lets hope there's some money in the kitty for DC to strengthen
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 18, 2017 20:05:56 GMT
It would help if we had a settled back four for a few games.
I'd go with:
Partington Lockyer Broadbent Brown
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Post by Nortongashead on Oct 18, 2017 20:14:25 GMT
Definitely not inept. His record speaks for itself. Bristol Rovers is his apprenticeship and he will make mistakes, buy the wrong players and f**k things up from time to time. He gets more right than wrong and has transformed our once rotting club into something worth supporting again. He is not perfect but who is? The biggest problem with our club at the moment is the hope that's been fed to us.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Oct 18, 2017 20:31:44 GMT
I'd go for Mark MaGee - Director of Football Ray Graydon - Manager Gary Thompson - No2 Paul Buckle - Head Coach Then I'd get my coat!!!! Got to be a role for Martin Dobson, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 20:39:46 GMT
Were you around when Bert Tann, Don Megson, Bill Dodgin and Gerry Francis were managers of this club if you not I don't really think you're in a position to make those sort of statements and judgements. And whether you like it or not DC was part of the management team and the manager when we were relegated - so plenty of debate if you like but you may well be out of your depth. Bert Tann was from a different footballing era, likewise was Don Megson I should still name his starting 11 today for the majority of the games we played in the promotion season, GF worked a minor miracle getting us promoted/established in Div 1 but then spoilt his record in his second spell, DC worked two miracles by turning the club around when we were relegated, look at Tranmere & Hartlepool to show how hard that is, then another one when we beat Accrington. I feel DC was stitched up by SH's "top 6 budgets" comments, if we'd all accepted he'd just have a competitive budget for Div 1 perhaps we'd be now happy with a mid table position. IF SH turns up tomorrow night then I hope he's asked to explain that comment. Strange how that old chestnut football is different now than 40 or 50 years ago keeps being trotted out to back up certain claims. Are you saying that players like Duncan Edwards. Bobby Charlton Bobby Moore Tom finney nat Lofthouse. Geoff bradford John atyeo to name but a few would be ineffective in today's game
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 18, 2017 21:18:59 GMT
Inept tactics from an arragant Manager who thinks he is being clever changing formation and personnel each week. There has never been a successful Manager in football who has done this, been lucky in the past time to move on. How about Darrell Clarke, who gained 2 promotions on a row? Is that not successful? That is history we now need to move on from that and look to the future
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Post by Icegas on Oct 18, 2017 21:54:16 GMT
How does gaining a promotion to the 2nd level mean someone is better than a manager that has two promotions that were back to back at our club and saved our club? DC got screwed into taking the job with 8 games to go in 2014 when joke ward jogged on after creating our worst side ever that took us out of the league. He took the job and the flack that went with it like a man and rebuilt the club again, and got us out of the 5th level in less than a year (which if we hadn't, could have killed our club) He then got another promotion taking us back to our historical level that we are now at. Sorry,respect to Tann,Megson and Francis but I don't think there is any debate in this matter. DC is the only man with two promotions as a manager in our history,one being the most important one ever. Sorry to ruin your misconceptions of the relegation season ward did not jog off as you say he was told that clarke was taking good over for the last 8 games and he would be director of football. Ward want to see the season through and if the worst thing happened he would take full responsibility. Unfortunately the Chairman decided otherwise. You may not think there is any debate about managers abilities but if you held a poll with all rovers fans not just those in a forum you will find that a lot agree with me I remember Ward coming out to the fans after that Mansfield game at the back of the blackthrone and he said when questioned about our fate with "Well I wasn't in charge for the last 8 games" Sorry John, but you created a awlful side that had an awlful season and that was before DC took over.I know his wife was ill at the time, but he lost all my respect after saying this.The football we played was truely,truely awlful. As for a poll.Well maths doesn't lie and DC has the most promotions and success of any Rovers boss off all time.Simple really.And I hope the man stays with us for many a season to come.
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Post by CostaBlancaGas on Oct 18, 2017 23:24:52 GMT
I'd go for Mark MaGee - Director of Football Ray Graydon - Manager Gary Thompson - No2 Paul Buckle - Head Coach Then I'd get my coat!!!! Got to be a role for Martin Dobson, surely?
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Post by CostaBlancaGas on Oct 18, 2017 23:25:32 GMT
Got to be a role for Martin Dobson, surely? He can drive the coach!
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Post by socrates on Oct 18, 2017 23:44:33 GMT
Definitely not inept. His record speaks for itself. Bristol Rovers is his apprenticeship and he will make mistakes, buy the wrong players and f**k things up from time to time. He gets more right than wrong and has transformed our once rotting club into something worth supporting again. He is not perfect but who is? The biggest problem with our club at the moment is the hope that's been fed to us. Totally agree with you and I think any Gashead who knows and understands football will too. But apparently we're a laughing stock with an inept manager and the club is going backwards ? Well it is according to plenty of new or very rarely posting people on here who have suddenly come out of the woodwork since last nights defeat. DC has taken us forward 3 seasons on the trot and we're only a quarter in to his fourth full season and suddenly he's inept we're a laughing stock he's clueless and we've got crap players ? Some people are sh** heads and others are Gas who can't wait for a defeat so that they come on forums and spout their negative sh**. Faithful and true ? What a load of bollocks.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 19, 2017 3:00:21 GMT
We're Rovers Supporters we're faithful and true. Or are we ? Yes, I still think most of us are! 😀 And even those who are pi**** off at the moment were just as pi**** off in the past. But they are still here supporting the team but are just very frustrated. The difference now is that with forums and social media stuff they have a place to vent this frustration and anger, before there wasn’t. Trouble is some thought we were going to be a bit better than we have been so far. As I’ve said before I live in expectation and hope because sometimes that’s all there is. Hope is part of our dna. For the record to answer the op, of course he’s not inept and he is one of our best ever managers but he’s still learning and will continue to learn. At least with DC he does learn and has a pretty good record at sorting bad stuff out. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 6:33:40 GMT
how about naming them fella Don't need to. Perhaps you should before asking stupid questions about whether or not others on here are Rovers fans , just saying like 😉
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Post by Congas on Oct 19, 2017 6:51:06 GMT
He's spent the first half of each season he's been in charge tinkering with players and formations, frustrating us but keeping us in sniffing distance of the promotion spots ready for a late run. He always shoulders the blame when he gets it horribly wrong, like he did with his 4-3-3 at Shrewsbury. His teams go from being disjointed to well-oiled machines when he finally decides which formation to play. The league table doesn't lie at this time of the year. We're handily placed to finish strongly as we normally do, but as we lack the infrastructure to sustain a stay in the Championship we'll have to be happy with a strong finish. There's nothing inept about him and in our current situation of broken dreams and an uncertain future there's no-one better to maintain our top half League 1 status because he's Rovers through and through and he hasn't failed us yet.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 19, 2017 7:30:37 GMT
It would help if we had a settled back four for a few games. I'd go with: Partington Lockyer Broadbent Brown No pace. No thanks.
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Post by grayraydon on Oct 19, 2017 7:47:59 GMT
I think if we would have beaten Poxford at home then I don't think the outcry from the DC haters would be so loud.
Another point about our away record so far this season imo is the teams we've played, Wigan, Bradford, Pompey, Charlton and unbeaten Shrewsbury who are flying, 4 of theses teams are currently in the top 5 positions and have only lost 5 out of the 35 home games they have collectively played!
I do think that imo DC needs to maybe have a look at our away tactics, but wtf do I know, I'm a fabricator/welder, not a football manager with a few promotions under my belt, those calling for him to be sacked are just over excitable people influenced by the way things are in football nowadays, no patience.
Evolution not Revolution.
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Oct 19, 2017 8:14:23 GMT
Following relegation to the conference Darrell Clarke fronted up on Twentymans radio show and absorbed the blame but mentioned that he was a fighter who never gives up and given the chance he would work his damned hardest to get Rovers back in the football league. He did exactly that and then some. It's not bottom 3 cut adrift staring relegation in the face, it's indifferent form, lack of spending, loss of biggest goal scoring threat from last season to the sh** and now loss of most influential player this season in Billy Bodin. Surely it's not the end of the world is it? Remember the mid to late 80's and struggling just to survive in Division 3 and the awful times leading up to 2014? Sense of real perspective required. January requires some business to be done and then see what happens eh?
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