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Post by peterparker on May 19, 2014 20:27:59 GMT
Yeah, fair play to you for that. I just think it was a cracking opportunity missed. I feel there is a place for pics of girls in pants AND heavy debate. Its unfortunate that anyone should feel the need to separate the two. Matchday threads, Guess the Crowd, Player Ratings are were all well run and well supported features of the OF. I loved some of the negs vs tinters stuff on the OF and also really enjoyed The Groundbreaking thread (even though it sometimes did my head in!!) I certainly hope we get some strong opinions on here, even Sack the Board ones because thats what makes for a vibrant and realistic forum experience. There is certainly no aversion to smut or debauchery over there. We do innuendo quite well. Guess the crowd, not so much
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Post by peterparker on May 19, 2014 20:28:59 GMT
Yeah, fair play to you for that. I just think it was a cracking opportunity missed. I feel there is a place for pics of girls in pants AND heavy debate. Its unfortunate that anyone should feel the need to separate the two. Matchday threads, Guess the Crowd, Player Ratings are were all well run and well supported features of the OF. I loved some of the negs vs tinters stuff on the OF and also really enjoyed The Groundbreaking thread (even though it sometimes did my head in!!) I certainly hope we get some strong opinions on here, even Sack the Board ones because thats what makes for a vibrant and realistic forum experience. There is certainly no aversion to smut or debauchery over there. We do innuendo quite well. Guess the crowd, not so much
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 20:29:21 GMT
Nobody has ask them to lead the cavalry charge this time. It's a different era in different circumstances that needs fresh minds, not ones who obviously are weighed down by so much baggage form the past. If the SC is outdated, then fans should get in there and sort it out. Honest intentions will never stop making things better. Action speaks louder than words and is a much quicker way of establishing what is needed, rather than starting all over again. I think that those who are seeking to start an Independent Supporters Club should actually see if they can do it through the one that needs a refresh. If the fans directors are not having the desired affect, replace them or withdraw them. Simple. good post. Change has to be guided by positivity or all we do is burn the towers and leave them smouldering as we walk away.
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 20:31:15 GMT
Yeah, fair play to you for that. I just think it was a cracking opportunity missed. I feel there is a place for pics of girls in pants AND heavy debate. Its unfortunate that anyone should feel the need to separate the two. Matchday threads, Guess the Crowd, Player Ratings are were all well run and well supported features of the OF. I loved some of the negs vs tinters stuff on the OF and also really enjoyed The Groundbreaking thread (even though it sometimes did my head in!!) I certainly hope we get some strong opinions on here, even Sack the Board ones because thats what makes for a vibrant and realistic forum experience. There is certainly no aversion to smut or debauchery over there. We do innuendo quite well. Guess the crowd, not so much well this forum will be run by the fans. If the fans want guess the crowd, guess the team etc they will get it. I don't participate in them but lots do. That is the point.
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Post by peterparker on May 19, 2014 20:39:18 GMT
Nobody has ask them to lead the cavalry charge this time. It's a different era in different circumstances that needs fresh minds, not ones who obviously are weighed down by so much baggage form the past. If the SC is outdated, then fans should get in there and sort it out. Honest intentions will never stop making things better. Action speaks louder than words and is a much quicker way of establishing what is needed, rather than starting all over again. I think that those who are seeking to start an Independent Supporters Club should actually see if they can do it through the one that needs a refresh. If the fans directors are not having the desired affect, replace them or withdraw them. Simple. I think though the board are happy with he SC they have. The SC has many members but barely anyone bothers to turn up for things like AGMs or election because they arent interested aside from getting a coach, program or 50/50 ticket I think it is time for something new. A lot about BRFC has stagnated over the years. We can have more than one supporters group, other clubs do, but when it comes to the crunch all views and groups should be heard and welcomed and disagreed with as necessary If the club are serious about a new dawn and new era, they will take it all ways (one for innuendo bingo). If they try snd rubbish it, or say as they have in the past thay they will only take ideas through the SC, I will know nothing has changed
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 20:44:08 GMT
Please be aware that we will not allow the pushing of new groups. Pressure groups or otherwise at this fragile time. There is a good platform for this on the IF and everyone is free to visit. Not here please.
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Post by peterparker on May 19, 2014 20:48:33 GMT
Please be aware that we will not allow the pushing of new groups. Pressure groups or otherwise at this fragile time. There is a good platform for this on the IF and everyone is free to visit. Not here please. Does that not amount to the same difference. Or are you on a wind up All our welcome. For the fan by the fans and all that This is one discussion topic, about the IF not a forun full of it. Is it not okay to keep all talk on this thread?
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 20:54:08 GMT
Yes of course you can discuss it but I don't want this forum to advocate any pressure group or indeed to become a pressure group itself. Its not fair on those that have moved away from other forums for that reason alone. Please use alternative platforms. I'm sure you understand.
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 20:57:07 GMT
(perhaps my first was a bit strong) apologies for that.
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Post by peterparker on May 19, 2014 21:00:41 GMT
Yes of course you can discuss it but I don't want this forum to advocate any pressure group or indeed to become a pressure group itself. Its not fair on those that have moved away from other forums for that reason alone. Please use alternative platforms. I'm sure you understand. [ fair enough.I am not trying to push anything on anyone intentionally. Apologies I hope though that you will let said group post any launch update on here, even of you lock the thread so it doesnt become a discussion topic so people can at least be aware to make a choice to follow it or not
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 21:03:14 GMT
Yes of course we will. It is only right people are informed and get to choose for themselves.
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Post by pepsi on May 19, 2014 21:04:42 GMT
Ras, Pp has made many good points.. Perhaps from your perspective it should have been in a different thread/topic.. Surely your not telling people what they can and can't say already.. You made a choice to not post on the IF, and opened a new forum which is fair play, but that was your choice surely??? You've said people can post what they want on the new forum.. Pp is not preaching Oh yeah.. Not avvin a dig or nowt just saying like.. Decent little forum this will become IMO
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 21:11:14 GMT
Ras, Pp has made many good points.. Perhaps from your perspective it should have been in a different thread/topic.. Surely your not telling people what they can and can't say already.. You made a choice to not post on the IF, and opened a new forum which is fair play, but that was your choice surely??? You've said people can post what they want on the new forum.. Pp is not preaching.. its fine to talk. The difference is clear on the IF that they are pushing this new group. I don't want that here there should be a distinction between the two. Talk by all means about whatever you want but I want to maintain distance between members here and pressure groups. I agree I could have been clearer and that it sounded wrong. Hope you understand.
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Post by peterparker on May 19, 2014 21:19:16 GMT
I understand. Dont want to seem like i am forcing it on anybody, but i want it to get a fair chance of getting it off the ground Any new group will not have it easy going on past history, unless it gets weight behind it. JTS would probably atest to that as well going by posts on the OF
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Post by pepsi on May 19, 2014 21:21:36 GMT
Fair enough.. I'm not talking about pressure groups, or whatever mate.. Seriously. I just think everyone should be heard..it's a forum..and as on the IF I said to pp there should be a place for forumers from the OF to have there say and bit of fun.. Maybe that should be tried on here.. ?? Just sayin like..
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Post by peterparker on May 19, 2014 21:32:37 GMT
Fair enough.. I'm not talking about pressure groups, or whatever mate.. Seriously. I just think everyone should be heard..it's a forum..and as on the IF I said to pp there should be a place for forumers from the OF to have there say and bit of fun.. Maybe that should be tried on here.. ?? Just sayin like.. Hopefully a new sub section for bants (thats the cool word yeah) and the crowd stuff will be implemented soon. As i say its tough with off season and no action on or off the field to talkabout much. Wes likes to keep us updated with the lstest stars on the rise Nd hopefully we will have some signings and other news to get stuck into soon
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Post by Hugo Admin on May 19, 2014 21:40:38 GMT
The gentlemans lounge is there for silly stuff and the mods are currently looking at how to host the others mate. Watch this space.
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Post by nurseratched on May 19, 2014 21:42:37 GMT
I think though the board are happy with he SC they have. The SC has many members but barely anyone bothers to turn up for things like AGMs or election because they arent interested aside from getting a coach, program or 50/50 ticket I think it is time for something new. A lot about BRFC has stagnated over the years. We can have more than one supporters group, other clubs do, but when it comes to the crunch all views and groups should be heard and welcomed and disagreed with as necessary If the club are serious about a new dawn and new era, they will take it all ways (one for innuendo bingo). If they try snd rubbish it, or say as they have in the past thay they will only take ideas through the SC, I will know nothing has changed The fans get what they deserve if they don't turn up for boring AGM's, elections don't they? No excuses! As far as the stuff that makes money, this is the thing that really does act as leverage when making demands. This is what the BOD are interested in, otherwise why would they listen to a group of fans that are just a talking shop with a set of demands? Besides, where is the difference between the Independent Supporters having to go through the same rigmarole of constitutions, AGM's etc to justify their existence, which most people will find boring when the SC already do all these things. A united fan base speaking with one voice is much better proposition rather than a divided one, making the board choose who to recognise and the fans choose which side of the divide to support. Get in there and sort out what we have got. Much simpler solution. One voice means the BOD has to listen to a united fan base. We all support Bristol Rovers, rather than factions within Bristol Rovers, don't we?
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Post by mehewmagic on May 20, 2014 0:26:31 GMT
Just a quick note about the IF. I have a lot of sympathy with those guys and they are knowledgeable and passionate gasheads. This forum is not designed to exclude or divide. Quite the opposite. It is here for like minded fans to debate and discuss whatever they like. My personal feeling is that there is a lot of hate on other forums and while this is wholly understandable I feel it makes for quite linear debate. It is simply not for me. Not yet anyway unless things change a bit. Hope you lot can understand and perhaps enjoy both sites. Sack the board. sack Ras! sack Hugo, and little Hugo splitters!
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Post by mehewmagic on May 20, 2014 0:47:47 GMT
Ras, Pp has made many good points.. Perhaps from your perspective it should have been in a different thread/topic.. Surely your not telling people what they can and can't say already.. You made a choice to not post on the IF, and opened a new forum which is fair play, but that was your choice surely??? You've said people can post what they want on the new forum.. Pp is not preaching Oh yeah.. Not avvin a dig or nowt just saying like.. Decent little forum this will become IMO some decent points here. it does feel a bit weird that we are already being told what to talk about. I think Ras is trying to say that it would be nice if there could be one forum (this one...) where we have a bit of a chat and a laugh, to take our minds off the fact we support a sh** football team. Maybe this is the smoking room rather than the kitchen sink drama. I don;t know much about all the politics and frankly don't really want to know. that doesn't mean I;m sticking my head in the sand. I'm not. I know we have a Stalinist Board, a comfy slippers SC, and are caught between Alaister Campbell and Coco the Clown for our PR, and I have been vocal on that in the past and in my new BEP blog. BUT I still support BRFC as a team and want to see us play exciting successful footy on the pitch. Let's be honest; if we had a decent level of footy and a great stadium most fans wouldn't care a jot about all that BS.
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