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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2017 9:53:21 GMT
Don Megson had one decent season, even Gerry Francis spoilt his reputation second time around, with Bert Tann being from an entirely different time and era. To suggest DC hasn't been one of our best managers regardless of what happens in the future is just being daft in my view. Which other manager had a team with the best home form over a 3 year period?
Having said that being one of the best in the past doesn't make the future any easier!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2017 9:54:14 GMT
and let him go for free in the summer? He won’t sign another deal,although I think he should do what sercombe did for Oxford out of respect to dc and the club for giving him the chance We can lose him for free in January on a pre-contract. Why, his he going aboard to play? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2017 9:56:30 GMT
I agree with selling Locks as he ain't doing it (and hasn't been for months) but Billy----no way😱 and let him go for free in the summer? He won’t sign another deal,although I think he should do what sercombe did for Oxford out of respect to dc and the club for giving him the chance We don't know the terms behind the Sercs deal but would you sign a contract costing you personally £100k's just as a thank you gesture to your employees? |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 5, 2017 10:21:09 GMT
I agree with selling Locks as he ain't doing it (and hasn't been for months) but Billy----no way😱 and let him go for free in the summer? He won’t sign another deal,although I think he should do what sercombe did for Oxford out of respect to dc and the club for giving him the chance Sercs didn’t choose to extend for Oxford, they triggered a year extension from a clause in his contract to ensure they would get money for him. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 5, 2017 12:47:43 GMT
‘Big changes’ would require some money to be made available, and I’m not sure it will... Perhaps we could get £300,000+ for Bodin and move on a couple of others to clear up some room on the wage bill though - that might allow us to bring in the 3/4 experienced players that we need. Think I would sell Locks and Billy, we need at least four new players, the type who can go straight into the starting line up, need to shore up the defence, as we are like a pub team. Sadly, I agree with you about selling Billy. By far our best player, but if DC can only spend what he makes through player sales and cup runs (as I suspect), then using Bodin money may be the only option we have to improve the overall squad. Not 100% sure I would sell Lockyer (even though he has been a disaster so far this season), as I still feel like he can be a good L1 CB next to the right partner and with the right protection from midfield. But if we got offered £300k+ for him then I would probably sell. |
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Post by southvillegas on Nov 5, 2017 18:22:04 GMT
I thought Wael had plenty of wonga to spend? Surely he should spend money on January players signings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 18:38:13 GMT
Think I would sell Locks and Billy, we need at least four new players, the type who can go straight into the starting line up, need to shore up the defence, as we are like a pub team. Sadly, I agree with you about selling Billy. By far our best player, but if DC can only spend what he makes through player sales and cup runs (as I suspect), then using Bodin money may be the only option we have to improve the overall squad. Not 100% sure I would sell Lockyer (even though he has been a disaster so far this season), as I still feel like he can be a good L1 CB next to the right partner and with the right protection from midfield. But if we got offered £300k+ for him then I would probably sell. And if Ellis keeps playing like he is we could get a few bob for him as well |
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 5, 2017 19:18:05 GMT
Think I would sell Locks and Billy, we need at least four new players, the type who can go straight into the starting line up, need to shore up the defence, as we are like a pub team. you want us to sale bodin? The best player we have, astonishing comment. I would not choose to sell him, however we need so many changes, it might be better to cash in for the sake of the team, unless Wael releases some cash, but if we can’t allegedly pay for the fence on the training ground guess the pot is low! We need players like Sercs who can go straight into the team. Great if DC is backed financially in the next window otherwise mid table beckons and the season will be effectively over. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Nov 5, 2017 22:18:35 GMT
We're a mid table team at best, not spending money, do you really think we're ready for next step?
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 6, 2017 6:23:33 GMT
But statistically he is..... I think you may need to compare the level he's competed at before he's announced statistically our best ever manager. Bert Tann, Don Megson and Gerry Francis all statistically achieved at a higher level. He's done well to get us back to our average long term position but I think we can postpone the plans for a statute at the revamped stadium for a bit.... I respectfully suggest that statistically he is the best, statistically what your saying is correct if I said "he is the best" no other manager has won two promotions with this football club since we were formed, we have never achieved back to back promotions either, so the statistics are showing he is the best, whether you think it undeserved or not. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 6, 2017 6:47:20 GMT
So when DC said about 30 scouts (not the dib dib type) watch our home games, who are they watching, the groundsman ??
We have plenty of players other teams want
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Post by Marshy on Nov 6, 2017 7:17:37 GMT
To be perfectly honest, I have kept off of here since Friday because I knew it would be an absolute shitfest on here after that performance!
Disappointed yes, but still positive about our club as whole.
Tough one at Scunthorpe and realistically another defeat on the way, time to get behind the boys at our next home game ( Apart from Swindon) and also cut out all this crap about DC. He deserves a bit of breathing space from us fans, let’s face it he’s worked miracles at what at the time was a dying club.
We are still in a decent position so no need to hit the panick button just yet! UTG
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 6, 2017 9:12:35 GMT
I think you may need to compare the level he's competed at before he's announced statistically our best ever manager. Bert Tann, Don Megson and Gerry Francis all statistically achieved at a higher level. He's done well to get us back to our average long term position but I think we can postpone the plans for a statute at the revamped stadium for a bit.... I respectfully suggest that statistically he is the best, statistically what your saying is correct if I said "he is the best" no other manager has won two promotions with this football club since we were formed, we have never achieved back to back promotions either, so the statistics are showing he is the best, whether you think it undeserved or not. I would counter your respectful suggestion on the grounds of the use of the phrase "best statistically". I think that phrase implies a use of qualitative statistics. For example FIFA uses qualitative statistics to publish a guide as to who maybe the Worlds best National team. Using a coefficient to provide context to the games played. Using your raw statistics Sam Allardyce is "statistically England's best manager" Maybe numerically DC has a great record but I don't think that statistically makes him our "best" manager. |
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 15, 2017 16:22:39 GMT
Achieved the most honours as manager=the best possibly? Anyway one things for sure he doesn't,t deserve some of the vitriol he gets on this forum or the other one I don't think
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 16:32:24 GMT
I know I have my critics about what I say about DC but he is no way the best manager we have ever had DC is up there with the best Tann, Francis, Dodgin and Megson but he's at a cross-roads and needs to learn from a few mistakes - firstly should have devoted more time to recruitment over the summer ...formations we can play are limited and he need a coach to work with him as he tries to do too much himself. If he does not get money to strength squad in January or if he gets recruitment in January wrong then it will end in tears as my old Grandmother used to say. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 16:39:30 GMT
I can't believe people still use that word as a joke. Really wateres me off. Agree absolutely should be warned ...very offensive ...do something about it please Moderators. |
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Post by oldgas on Nov 15, 2017 17:22:19 GMT
I know I have my critics about what I say about DC but he is no way the best manager we have ever had I agree - what about Martin Dobson Yeah, but what about McGhee, Penney & Buckle Mc Fuckle? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 17:49:14 GMT
Gerry Francis for me, Champions, unbeaten at home, all after selling our best two players.
Five seasons unbeaten against them down the road.
DC is right up there and hopefully will better that, but not yet for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 17:53:35 GMT
Gerry Francis for me, Champions, unbeaten at home, all after selling our best two players. Five seasons unbeaten against them down the road. DC is right up there and hopefully will better that, but not yet for me. Spot on meadgas |
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