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Post by gasincider on Jan 2, 2018 18:51:16 GMT
Which big striker was that at Peterborough? He got the majority of his goals and assists playing with 5ft7in Paul Taylor and 5ft 11in Shaquile Coulthirst. Gaffney is 6ft and Harrison is 5ft 11in. Some people will always try to find excuses for certain types of player. Remember when we had Wayne "play him in the hole" Brown just because he came from a (then) Premiershite club who offered him a new contract?? The fact is we have paid a lot of money (for Rovers) and he had hardly given us anything back on our investment. Bodin, Gaffers and Harrison have both scored regularly in the same team....why not Nichols? Were you one of those who wanted Ellis gone a very short while ago?
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Post by gasincider on Jan 2, 2018 18:52:58 GMT
Whatever we paid seems too much at present, even £50K would seem expensive, I just don't get what MS/DC saw in him, he had a full 90 mins yesterday but even when we were on top near the end he still never even looked like having a shot on goal let alone scoring. It'll be interesting to see if Telford stays (assuming he has a choice?) or tries to find another club where he'll be given some game time. Agreed. For the life of me I can't see how anyone says he will come good. Based on what exactly?? Are you talking about Ellis or Nicholls?
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Post by gasincider on Jan 2, 2018 18:57:28 GMT
Nicholls will only come to the fore if we sign the replacement we should have brought in when Lambert went, and have failed to since. Namely a big strong tall striker whom he can feed off, just like he did at Posh. Still waiting Dinsdale Been at work Mr Higgs You created a Persona that you have inside contacts. You have mentioned About ten consortiums, the chinese, the corridors of power, having any inside knowledge , not having an agenda. You basically turn up on here spout i know something you dont and then never back it up with anything and sit and watch the sh** get stirred. Its so frustrating and i fell for it enough times. Ed Wares trumpet boy thats it. why resort to lies? Back it up you arseh*le.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 2, 2018 19:17:43 GMT
Whatever we paid seems too much at present, even £50K would seem expensive, I just don't get what MS/DC saw in him, he had a full 90 mins yesterday but even when we were on top near the end he still never even looked like having a shot on goal let alone scoring. It'll be interesting to see if Telford stays (assuming he has a choice?) or tries to find another club where he'll be given some game time. Agreed. For the life of me I can't see how anyone says he will come good. Based on what exactly?? Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Matty Taylor. Jason Roberts hadn't scored at this level when we signed him, I remember him getting pelters for only scoring 1 in about his first 20 games for us, he came good. Rickie Lambert was just a "Fat, Lazy, Midfielder" and only scored a few goals in his first 20 or so games when we signed him from Rochdale he came good. Matty Taylor had never played league Football, and had never scored more than 10 in a Conference season before signing for us. I think he only scored 1 goal from open play in his first 20 or so games. He came good. Im not saying Tom Nichols will ever be as good as those 3 were for us, but im pretty sure his goals per game ratio at the moment is on a par with those 3 players first 20 games for the club.
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Post by pirate on Jan 2, 2018 19:28:41 GMT
Which big striker was that at Peterborough? He got the majority of his goals and assists playing with 5ft7in Paul Taylor and 5ft 11in Shaquile Coulthirst. Gaffney is 6ft and Harrison is 5ft 11in. And which one plays down the middle? I think the alternated between the two.
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Post by dinsdale on Jan 2, 2018 19:45:40 GMT
Look, he might be another Luke James, but there is a previous history of strikers taking a long time to find their feet at Rovers. His record at Exeter and Peterborough suggests that he is no mug, love so there is a basis for hope. Luke James always gave 100% and consistently missed or created chances during his time for us. Every time i have watched Nichols he has looked poor. Admittedly i havent got to all the games this season but he looks very physically week for this level and incapable of shooting. Im sure one shot even missed the corner flag yesterday. He is a long way off the likes Of Harrison and Gaffney and cant for the life of me understand why we spent a near club record on him.
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Post by dinsdale on Jan 2, 2018 19:47:10 GMT
Been at work Mr Higgs You created a Persona that you have inside contacts. You have mentioned About ten consortiums, the chinese, the corridors of power, having any inside knowledge , not having an agenda. You basically turn up on here spout i know something you dont and then never back it up with anything and sit and watch the sh** get stirred. Its so frustrating and i fell for it enough times. Ed Wares trumpet boy thats it. why resort to lies? Back it up you arseh*le. Its all true, someone connected told me, can’t tell you their name or give you anything specific sorry. Say hi to Toni the Till for me
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 2, 2018 19:53:54 GMT
Dinsdale/gasincider please don’t have a slagging match on the forum where there is name calling.
It isn’t the school playground.
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 2, 2018 20:06:32 GMT
Dinsdale/gasincider please don’t have a slagging match on the forum where there is name calling. It isn’t the school playground. dont say that it is getting fruity,they will playing conkers at the next home get with werthers tied to string 😬
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Post by gaseous on Jan 2, 2018 20:10:33 GMT
But we do know what the Peterborough chairman is like in terms of talking things up. I can't believe we paid that much for one player, especially one that hasn't really set the world alight in scoring terms.
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Post by Big Jock on Jan 2, 2018 20:14:35 GMT
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 2, 2018 20:19:01 GMT
didnt know gasincider was sinclairs dad
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Post by gaseous on Jan 2, 2018 20:19:09 GMT
Agreed. For the life of me I can't see how anyone says he will come good. Based on what exactly?? Look, he might be another Luke James, but there is a previous history of strikers taking a long time to find their feet at Rovers. His record at Exeter and Peterborough suggests that he is no mug, so there is a basis for hope. His record is not that good. Exeter 2011-2016 97 apps 34 goals not bad but in 5 years, ok he had some loans in that time. Peterborough 50 apps 11 goals so ok but that's 1 in 5 Marcus Stewart knows him so maybe he can bring the best out in him, they managed to do it with the snake. Let's hope that is the case.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 2, 2018 20:32:18 GMT
Agreed. For the life of me I can't see how anyone says he will come good. Based on what exactly?? Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Matty Taylor. Jason Roberts hadn't scored at this level when we signed him, I remember him getting pelters for only scoring 1 in about his first 20 games for us, he came good. Rickie Lambert was just a "Fat, Lazy, Midfielder" and only scored a few goals in his first 20 or so games when we signed him from Rochdale he came good. Matty Taylor had never played league Football, and had never scored more than 10 in a Conference season before signing for us. I think he only scored 1 goal from open play in his first 20 or so games. He came good. Im not saying Tom Nichols will ever be as good as those 3 were for us, but im pretty sure his goals per game ratio at the moment is on a par with those 3 players first 20 games for the club. Roberts had scored regularly for Wolves and the 82er's before he signed for us. Lambert was Rochdale's top scorer and Taylor scored something like 7 in 8 games for Chester, however, watching Nichols yesterday you do wonder if he'll ever score. I can't understand why DC doesn't give Telford a chance as at least he gets stuck in and knows where the goal is.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 2, 2018 20:45:27 GMT
Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Matty Taylor. Jason Roberts hadn't scored at this level when we signed him, I remember him getting pelters for only scoring 1 in about his first 20 games for us, he came good. Rickie Lambert was just a "Fat, Lazy, Midfielder" and only scored a few goals in his first 20 or so games when we signed him from Rochdale he came good. Matty Taylor had never played league Football, and had never scored more than 10 in a Conference season before signing for us. I think he only scored 1 goal from open play in his first 20 or so games. He came good. Im not saying Tom Nichols will ever be as good as those 3 were for us, but im pretty sure his goals per game ratio at the moment is on a par with those 3 players first 20 games for the club. Roberts had scored regularly for Wolves and the 82er's before he signed for us. Lambert was Rochdale's top scorer and Taylor scored something like 7 in 8 games for Chester, however, watching Nichols yesterday you do wonder if he'll ever score. I can't understand why DC doesn't give Telford a chance as at least he gets stuck in and knows where the goal is. Roberts didn't kick a ball for Wolves. He scored 6 for Torquay on loan, and only scored 1 goal for City on loan. Both in the 3rd Division. Lambert wasn't Rochdale's top scorer, Grant Holt was. Taylor may have scored 7 in 8 for Chester but he'd never scored in the Football League. Nichols has, I just think it's wrong to write somebody off after 20 games, as the other players mentioned hardly pulled up any trees in their first 20 odd games for us either.
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Post by gaseous on Jan 2, 2018 20:56:50 GMT
Agreed. For the life of me I can't see how anyone says he will come good. Based on what exactly?? Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Matty Taylor. Jason Roberts hadn't scored at this level when we signed him, I remember him getting pelters for only scoring 1 in about his first 20 games for us, he came good. Rickie Lambert was just a "Fat, Lazy, Midfielder" and only scored a few goals in his first 20 or so games when we signed him from Rochdale he came good. Matty Taylor had never played league Football, and had never scored more than 10 in a Conference season before signing for us. I think he only scored 1 goal from open play in his first 20 or so games. He came good. Im not saying Tom Nichols will ever be as good as those 3 were for us, but im pretty sure his goals per game ratio at the moment is on a par with those 3 players first 20 games for the club. Please don't put the snake alongside some of our great players, especially Sir Rickie, better examples may have been, Ellington, cureton. He is not worthy of that.
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Post by gaseous on Jan 2, 2018 20:57:57 GMT
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 2, 2018 21:20:27 GMT
Jason Roberts, Rickie Lambert, Matty Taylor. Jason Roberts hadn't scored at this level when we signed him, I remember him getting pelters for only scoring 1 in about his first 20 games for us, he came good. Rickie Lambert was just a "Fat, Lazy, Midfielder" and only scored a few goals in his first 20 or so games when we signed him from Rochdale he came good. Matty Taylor had never played league Football, and had never scored more than 10 in a Conference season before signing for us. I think he only scored 1 goal from open play in his first 20 or so games. He came good. Im not saying Tom Nichols will ever be as good as those 3 were for us, but im pretty sure his goals per game ratio at the moment is on a par with those 3 players first 20 games for the club. Please don't put the snake alongside some of our great players, especially Sir Rickie, better examples may have been, Ellington, cureton. He is not worthy of that. In terms of goals per game ratio, Matty Taylor was the most prolific out of all of them. They are perfect examples, in that they were players who started slowly, but came good in the end. Just because Matty Taylor's c*nt, doesn't mean we cant compare. Cureton pretty much hit the ground running, he was a bit like Bodin when he first arrived, he was chipping in with double figures a season from wide right. It was only after Hayles had left that Ollie played him upfront, alongside Roberts. Ellington was a 17 year old kid, who came on as a sub now and again for the first 2 years of his Rovers career. It'll be unfair to compare him with the others.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 21:30:23 GMT
why resort to lies? Back it up you arseh*le. Its all true, someone connected told me, can’t tell you their name or give you anything specific sorry. Say hi to Toni the Till for me That is very childish and does you no favours. G.I. passes on what he has been told in good faith if it doesn't come about it is hardly his fault. I was told several disturbing things by a staff member on monday but I will not pass it on and I am surprised that g.I bothers to do it after the childish insults he gats
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 2, 2018 21:59:57 GMT
Roberts had scored regularly for Wolves and the 82er's before he signed for us. Lambert was Rochdale's top scorer and Taylor scored something like 7 in 8 games for Chester, however, watching Nichols yesterday you do wonder if he'll ever score. I can't understand why DC doesn't give Telford a chance as at least he gets stuck in and knows where the goal is. Roberts didn't kick a ball for Wolves. He scored 6 for Torquay on loan, and only scored 1 goal for City on loan. Both in the 3rd Division. Lambert wasn't Rochdale's top scorer, Grant Holt was. Taylor may have scored 7 in 8 for Chester but he'd never scored in the Football League. Nichols has, I just think it's wrong to write somebody off after 20 games, as the other players mentioned hardly pulled up any trees in their first 20 odd games for us either. It looks like I misread Wiki Roberts scored 6 goals in 14 games for Torquay, Lambo scored 22 goals in his last full season for Rochdale, if Holt scored more they must have had an hell of a season. Regardless for every Roberts & co there's a James & White.
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