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Post by newmarketgas on Feb 17, 2018 12:41:53 GMT
Apparently Wael is appearing today on Gallaway's RT (Russia Today) programme Sputnik....if you miss it you can catch up later at: www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/Jeez. Do I not like that. Russia Today is clearly a Putin propaganda outlet. Offcom frequently find them in breach of regs and calls their output "materially misleading". Fine for a low life like Galloway but I'm uncomfortable that the President of our football club is associating with such unprincipled pieces of sh1t. Sounds more like the BBC.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 12:43:27 GMT
Russia has tended to have very good relations with most middle east countries ,except Afghanistan which was their army training ground .
RT certainly puts a Russian spin on things ,probably not any worse than Fox ,cnn , sky or BBC though on the whole. All have their manipulators.
Whatever the motivations on the programme the interview will raise the clubs profile across the world.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 17, 2018 13:17:42 GMT
I don’t like football and politics mixing at the best of times but I dislike it even more when a lowlife such has Galloway is gracing our ground.
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Post by c4h10 on Feb 17, 2018 13:25:28 GMT
Holy chuffk, theys jes chattin aboot the chuffkin slave trade. Now theys bangin on aboot Rovers fanbase is mainly white, workin class, blue collar. Th richer people of Bristol support City We can see what the Mona Lisa thinks of that!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 14:03:13 GMT
The RT interview doesn't announce much at all to Rovers fans but maybe does to people who do not know the club.
Not sure about the Black Arabs name coming from the rugby club being called black arabs...thought they were just called the arabs and as the football team played on the next pitch and wore the black and sash kit they called themselves the black arabs. Didn't last long anyway ,bit like a five aside team coming up for a name for a tournament.
Someone tweeted some rubbish about moors and Bristol hence the name. To which GG said about the blackboy pub. I guess he should be told its nothing to do with racial tones. White ladies road is where the nunnery was and the nuns wore white,further up there was a monastery and the monks wore black habits. Hence white ladies and black boys.
Wael again talked about his background with international football and the potential for Bristol Rovers. Any team can play league one ,some play championship whilst being small. Others even make the big time with small grounds...Bournemouth,Burnley , Watford. Any reasonable sized town could fill a 20,000 stadium in the premier league. Potential to me indicates way more than a 20,000 stadium long term. Treble that would be fulfilling potential.
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Post by inee on Feb 17, 2018 17:23:26 GMT
Holy chuffk, theys jes chattin aboot the chuffkin slave trade. Now theys bangin on aboot Rovers fanbase is mainly white, workin class, blue collar. Th richer people of Bristol support City We can see what the Mona Lisa thinks of that! That sh** gets right on me tits and twists me nipples, lets face it ,if people want to go to football they will ,regadles of skin colour, just f**kin idiots trying to make issues where there arn't any
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Post by inee on Feb 17, 2018 17:27:02 GMT
The RT interview doesn't announce much at all to Rovers fans but maybe does to people who do not know the club. Not sure about the Black Arabs name coming from the rugby club being called black arabs...thought they were just called the arabs and as the football team played on the next pitch and wore the black and sash kit they called themselves the black arabs. Didn't last long anyway ,bit like a five aside team coming up for a name for a tournament. Someone tweeted some rubbish about moors and Bristol hence the name. To which GG said about the blackboy pub. I guess he should be told its nothing to do with racial tones. White ladies road is where the nunnery was and the nuns wore white,further up there was a monastery and the monks wore black habits. Hence white ladies and black boys. Wael again talked about his background with international football and the potential for Bristol Rovers. Any team can play league one ,some play championship whilst being small. Others even make the big time with small grounds...Bournemouth,Burnley , Watford. Any reasonable sized town could fill a 20,000 stadium in the premier league. Potential to me indicates way more than a 20,000 stadium long term. Treble that would be fulfilling potential. It wouldn't make any difference to a prick like gg ,even if you gave him the truth about the place names in Bristol, If you showed him the nails in bristol ,where traders did deals he would swear they were a place where people got nail to crosses or other bollocks , the world will be a better place when feckwits like him die
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 22:13:14 GMT
The RT interview doesn't announce much at all to Rovers fans but maybe does to people who do not know the club. Not sure about the Black Arabs name coming from the rugby club being called black arabs...thought they were just called the arabs and as the football team played on the next pitch and wore the black and sash kit they called themselves the black arabs. Didn't last long anyway ,bit like a five aside team coming up for a name for a tournament. Someone tweeted some rubbish about moors and Bristol hence the name. To which GG said about the blackboy pub. I guess he should be told its nothing to do with racial tones. White ladies road is where the nunnery was and the nuns wore white,further up there was a monastery and the monks wore black habits. Hence white ladies and black boys. Wael again talked about his background with international football and the potential for Bristol Rovers. Any team can play league one ,some play championship whilst being small. Others even make the big time with small grounds...Bournemouth,Burnley , Watford. Any reasonable sized town could fill a 20,000 stadium in the premier league. Potential to me indicates way more than a 20,000 stadium long term. Treble that would be fulfilling potential. The Arabs in Bristol - 'In the early 16th Century Moslems from the north coast of Africa, known as Moors, having been expelled from Spain and still smarting from their defeats by the Crusaders decided upon revenge. In fleets of light-weight, fast, lateen-rigged ships they raided ports in the south-west of England. Because of the threat posed by these raiders, villages were built away from the coast. The tower of the village church was used as a look-out. The raiding ships were armed with a cannon mounted in the bow with which, using chain shot, they could bring down the rigging of the slower, English ships and then board them and capture them intact with all their crew. These men and women were then taken back to the Barbary Coast as slaves. Between the 16th and 17th Centuries corsairs from the Barbary Coast of Africa descended from Lundy to intercept ships going to and from Ireland and the Americas. In all, they seized some four hundred and sixty-six vessels. Some of their women captives were taken back to Algiers or Tunis or Morocco: DNA testing today would reveal some unusual ancestors. At one time more than twenty thousand were being held as slaves and hostages in the dungeons of the fort. They included prominent men that were passengers bound for Bristol, including the brother of the lord mayor and held for ransom. In 1520 King James I decided that enough was enough and sent a Royal Navy battle squadron to blockade the Sultans ports and demand the release of the captives. It was to take Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s to sort them out. He found the sailors along the south west coast ports were frightened to venture out. When they caught an Arab they were brought back to the gibtaylor in Bristol to be drowned. Murat Reis, the Arab pirate captain, was on Lundy in about 1645. He had taken 310 prisoners off the southwest coastline to Salee Castle, Algiers, to be fattened up for sale. Cromwell got fed up with the Arab menace and insurance prices rising on Bristol merchant ships, that he commissioned two brave west country men to clear the Arabs off Lundy and chase them back to Tunis. Robert Blake from farming stock in the North Devon hills and William Penn from Redcliffe, Somerset took the fight to the enemy and bombarded their stronghold till they surrendered. They released 20,000 people. Penn had been paid privately by Bristol merchants to clear the Severn. He could speak Arabic as his father Giles senior had been ambassador in Africa on behalf of the King Charles. The 2 Penn brothers from Malmesbury came to Redcliffe (Giles and William) and were not allowed to trade by the Bristol cartel. So they traded with the Arabs instead, and had to become ruthless pirates themselves to survive. As a result, when the Mayor of Bristol, who had his own brother held to ransom... put up a reward to clear the Arab menace, lying in wait off Denny Island, Portishead..(they were waiting for the trading ships full of young white boys to be chained to their oars ,sold as slaves at the Horsefayre since 1242, and bound for Ireland with its Viking origins). Insurance rates were escalating. So it was worth some reward to be paid to a mercenary..so this is how Captain Penn, son of Giles, the English ambassador to Tunis, became famous and eventually an admiral.'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 14:26:48 GMT
The RT interview doesn't announce much at all to Rovers fans but maybe does to people who do not know the club. Not sure about the Black Arabs name coming from the rugby club being called black arabs...thought they were just called the arabs and as the football team played on the next pitch and wore the black and sash kit they called themselves the black arabs. Didn't last long anyway ,bit like a five aside team coming up for a name for a tournament. Someone tweeted some rubbish about moors and Bristol hence the name. To which GG said about the blackboy pub. I guess he should be told its nothing to do with racial tones. White ladies road is where the nunnery was and the nuns wore white,further up there was a monastery and the monks wore black habits. Hence white ladies and black boys. Wael again talked about his background with international football and the potential for Bristol Rovers. Any team can play league one ,some play championship whilst being small. Others even make the big time with small grounds...Bournemouth,Burnley , Watford. Any reasonable sized town could fill a 20,000 stadium in the premier league. Potential to me indicates way more than a 20,000 stadium long term. Treble that would be fulfilling potential. The Arabs in Bristol - 'In the early 16th Century Moslems from the north coast of Africa, known as Moors, having been expelled from Spain and still smarting from their defeats by the Crusaders decided upon revenge. In fleets of light-weight, fast, lateen-rigged ships they raided ports in the south-west of England. Because of the threat posed by these raiders, villages were built away from the coast. The tower of the village church was used as a look-out. The raiding ships were armed with a cannon mounted in the bow with which, using chain shot, they could bring down the rigging of the slower, English ships and then board them and capture them intact with all their crew. These men and women were then taken back to the Barbary Coast as slaves. Between the 16th and 17th Centuries corsairs from the Barbary Coast of Africa descended from Lundy to intercept ships going to and from Ireland and the Americas. In all, they seized some four hundred and sixty-six vessels. Some of their women captives were taken back to Algiers or Tunis or Morocco: DNA testing today would reveal some unusual ancestors. At one time more than twenty thousand were being held as slaves and hostages in the dungeons of the fort. They included prominent men that were passengers bound for Bristol, including the brother of the lord mayor and held for ransom. In 1520 King James I decided that enough was enough and sent a Royal Navy battle squadron to blockade the Sultans ports and demand the release of the captives. It was to take Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s to sort them out. He found the sailors along the south west coast ports were frightened to venture out. When they caught an Arab they were brought back to the gibtaylor in Bristol to be drowned. Murat Reis, the Arab pirate captain, was on Lundy in about 1645. He had taken 310 prisoners off the southwest coastline to Salee Castle, Algiers, to be fattened up for sale. Cromwell got fed up with the Arab menace and insurance prices rising on Bristol merchant ships, that he commissioned two brave west country men to clear the Arabs off Lundy and chase them back to Tunis. Robert Blake from farming stock in the North Devon hills and William Penn from Redcliffe, Somerset took the fight to the enemy and bombarded their stronghold till they surrendered. They released 20,000 people. Penn had been paid privately by Bristol merchants to clear the Severn. He could speak Arabic as his father Giles senior had been ambassador in Africa on behalf of the King Charles. The 2 Penn brothers from Malmesbury came to Redcliffe (Giles and William) and were not allowed to trade by the Bristol cartel. So they traded with the Arabs instead, and had to become ruthless pirates themselves to survive. As a result, when the Mayor of Bristol, who had his own brother held to ransom... put up a reward to clear the Arab menace, lying in wait off Denny Island, Portishead..(they were waiting for the trading ships full of young white boys to be chained to their oars ,sold as slaves at the Horsefayre since 1242, and bound for Ireland with its Viking origins). Insurance rates were escalating. So it was worth some reward to be paid to a mercenary..so this is how Captain Penn, son of Giles, the English ambassador to Tunis, became famous and eventually an admiral.' Exactly. The moors were never in Bristol as citizens or traders .The Barbary pirates attacked ships and villages along the coast from cornwall to south wales. Plenty of villages on the coast were raided and hostages and slaves were taken I think Kilve near minehead was one but don't quote me on that. Back in the day (late 1800s) Saracens or arabs were known more for their "nomadic" lifestyle. The theme of teams being called Saracens , wanderers ,Rovers was common . Perhaps because they had no permanent ground they played at . Seeing as BRFC seemed to have played at purdown ,ridgeway (fishponds) and other locations probably leads to this. The change to Rovers is likely as the split between rugby and football as separate sports grew . The Saracens line for rugger and the wanderers/rovers line for football. Saracens rugby club,Bristol Saracens ,Newport Saracens etc. and The Wanderers ,Wolverhampton wanderers ,Clapham Rovers , Blackburn Rovers etc.
Its not like BRFC has any connection to a wandering existence or tents is it
EDIT: There is also a possibility that as the club was formed by school teachers in a meeting at a pub in Eastville. They may have been aware that the word Saracen may come from the ancient Greek word for easterners. Easton ers.....perhaps....
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Post by toddy1953 on Feb 18, 2018 15:52:27 GMT
In 2014 DC then took helm of the pirate ship, got rid of the mutineers, and sailed the ship to the calmer waters of L1. Wael came aboard in 2016, he said there would be evolution, so I don't think there will be any Russian!!
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Post by gasstrictband on Feb 18, 2018 21:31:45 GMT
GG kicked there Asses in the US Senate.
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Post by aghast on Feb 18, 2018 22:15:11 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 18, 2018 23:20:07 GMT
Exactly. The moors were never in Bristol as citizens or traders .The Barbary pirates attacked ships and villages along the coast from cornwall to south wales. Plenty of villages on the coast were raided and hostages and slaves were taken I think Kilve near minehead was one but don't quote me on that. Back in the day (late 1800s) Saracens or arabs were known more for their "nomadic" lifestyle. The theme of teams being called Saracens , wanderers ,Rovers was common . Perhaps because they had no permanent ground they played at . Seeing as BRFC seemed to have played at purdown ,ridgeway (fishponds) and other locations probably leads to this. The change to Rovers is likely as the split between rugby and football as separate sports grew . The Saracens line for rugger and the wanderers/rovers line for football. Saracens rugby club,Bristol Saracens ,Newport Saracens etc. and The Wanderers ,Wolverhampton wanderers ,Clapham Rovers , Blackburn Rovers etc.
Its not like BRFC has any connection to a wandering existence or tents is it
EDIT: There is also a possibility that as the club was formed by school teachers in a meeting at a pub in Eastville. They may have been aware that the word Saracen may come from the ancient Greek word for easterners. Easton ers.....perhaps....
I don't think it is quite so intricate as that. We gained the Rovers name on our first move and Eastville Rovers was chosen to give us an area identity. As you pointed out earlier, the black was the strip we had and Arabs relating to the rugby club next door. Wolves gained the Wanderers name on amalgamation with another team, I suspect others were simply names chosen. The Saracens name is more to do with the martial quality, there were other names too such as Crusader (Saracens rugby was chosen because its local rival were Crusaders). They could easily have chosen Spartan, Centurion or Archer for example.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 18, 2018 23:44:52 GMT
The Bristol Rovers fans are more "Working Class, more white, more blue collar" What the f*ck would you know and what does that even mean? George Galloway you absolute f*cking cretin. What's with your silly hat as well, you abhorrent little sh*t stain. What the f*ck is Wael doing on there chatting bollocks to that absolute bellend?
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Post by chilly1883 on Feb 19, 2018 6:58:02 GMT
I personally hope he's never allowed in again
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Post by oldgas on Feb 19, 2018 8:29:29 GMT
Holy chuffk, theys jes chattin aboot the chuffkin slave trade. Now theys bangin on aboot Rovers fanbase is mainly white, workin class, blue collar. Th richer people of Bristol support City We can see what the Mona Lisa thinks of that! That just goes to show how generous the dole and other state benefits are! At Rovers you have hard-working blue -collar white supporters, and at the Sh1t you have unwashed, lazy, scrounging Knowle West inhabitants. GG is an absolute twat.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 19, 2018 8:31:35 GMT
Wow a lot of contempt for Galloway. I think he’s brilliant personally.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 19, 2018 9:00:05 GMT
Wow a lot of contempt for Galloway. I think he’s brilliant personally. Thanks George.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Feb 19, 2018 9:02:24 GMT
Wow a lot of contempt for Galloway. I think he’s brilliant personally. Thanks George. nae problem
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Feb 19, 2018 15:39:44 GMT
Wow a lot of contempt for Galloway. I think he’s brilliant personally. Me too. He's always worth listening to because he is extremely creative with his arguments and reasoning, which he puts forward at relevant junctures. He is able to do this because he listens very carefully to his opponents and searches out their weaknesses. All that is unlike the current round of UK and EU politicians who couldn't win an argument against a paper bag! May? useless. Corbyn ? rubbish. Barnier and Juncker ? Foreign winkers and muddlers.
Articulate and well thought-out opposition is highly valuable in Society. For all of us. Even if you don't agree with them.
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