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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 13, 2018 12:49:09 GMT
I just think we're lucky we've still got a club. With all the respect in the world, that is the least ambitious thing i've read all day. We probably wont be a football club, with the mounting debts in 10 years if we are still playing at the Mem. 3-5 years would be how long i would like to to think it could take. What's your time frame based on? How long has the Rosey faced twat been at the franchise now?? He has properly chucked his money around. They started in the Championship when he took over and millions and millions later and they are now in.....the championship. They have the aptly named Fail land and have only just got their ground sorted. I'm not comparing, btw but they are a good example of what could be achieved if you splash big cash and yet it's still taken them a lot more than 3-5 years.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 13, 2018 12:49:29 GMT
Can someone start making some excellent excuses for all the delays with the training ground build and Mem redevelopment plans please ? I'm going off for a yearly sabbatical ! perhaps something consequential might happen when I come back. On going court case re the Fence will take at least 5 years
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Post by baggins on Mar 13, 2018 12:51:20 GMT
I just think we're lucky we've still got a club. With all the respect in the world, that is the least ambitious thing i've read all day. We probably wont be a football club, with the mounting debts in 10 years if we are still playing at the Mem. 3-5 years would be how long i would like to to think it could take. No point in being ambitious if you haven't got a club to support. We've had mounting debts for the last 10 years, nothing new there, but at least our owners seem committed to the cause, understand the finances, have written off loans and genuinely seem capable of keeping us going. Pretty sure if you asked Wael what his ambitions are for the club he won't tell you he's happy to forever play in the current stadium and just hang around L1.
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Post by zulugas on Mar 13, 2018 12:57:24 GMT
One light hearted moment was when the vote was called to re-elect Steve Hamer as a director,the only vote against was Wael! that sent a chuckle around the room.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Mar 13, 2018 13:20:55 GMT
A very telling comment that we are now viewed as customers and not fans. Guess on those lines we should all up sticks and follow whatever club is offering the best value eh? What a sad outlook that is but very unsurprising from you. Would you rather have a well run club that treats it supporters like customers or a poorly run club that endeavours to please and inform it's fanbase? Personally I think the Al Qadi's are somewhere in the middle when it comes to treating it's supporters and to me that's ok. We aren't taken for granted, communication is ok but at the same time the owners still protect the club's interests and leave the supporters out of the loop when it isn't necessary for them to be in it. This might come as a shock to some who are used to fan's owning the club but honestly I think it is the way forward. It's not about who owns the club but the owners recognising the limited assets they have, prime among those are the fans. As fans, and as shown in the conference season, we turn up regardless of what dross maybe dished up. If the owners wish to view us as customers then like the customers of Tesco when dross is dished up they will have to expect and accept that customers will go elsewhere. Personally I think they should recognise that fans are worth a lot more than customers. It's the difference of knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 13, 2018 13:25:01 GMT
We will be lucky if we are in a new stadium in another 10 years.. I just think we're lucky we've still got a club. Exactly right. Whatever happened to counting your blessings? We came through the Eastville debacle and Twerton and relegation to the conference and yet here we are in the top half of league 1. Plenty of clubs a lot less fortunate than us.
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Post by baggins on Mar 13, 2018 13:30:17 GMT
I just think we're lucky we've still got a club. Exactly right. Whatever happened to counting your blessings? We came through the Eastville debacle and Twerton and relegation to the conference and yet here we are in the top half of league 1. Plenty of clubs a lot less fortunate than us. A handful of clubs in crippling debt and some no longer with us. Yea the toilets are awful, the pasties are crap, we've had no news regarding a ground, but as you say, 9th? L1? Still here? Been through so much worse.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 13, 2018 13:34:47 GMT
Exactly right. Whatever happened to counting your blessings? We came through the Eastville debacle and Twerton and relegation to the conference and yet here we are in the top half of league 1. Plenty of clubs a lot less fortunate than us. A handful of clubs in crippling debt and some no longer with us. Yea the toilets are awful, the pasties are crap, we've had no news regarding a ground, but as you say, 9th? L1? Still here? Been through so much worse. Yep can’t argue with that, it’s called marriage.
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Post by contradiction on Mar 13, 2018 13:35:39 GMT
One light hearted moment was when the vote was called to re-elect Steve Hamer as a director,the only vote against was Wael! that sent a chuckle around the room. And at the beginning, some bloke challenged why there were Legal fees charged in the accounts (as Mike Turner is a director and also is a partner in the legal firm) "as that money should go to Darrell & the playing squad instead" (or words to that effect). It was almost like some people think a football club who are buying and developing land and property for a training ground would never incur legal costs and all money should just go on players wages. The naivity is staggering. This wasn't really a light heated moment though, more a tad embarrassing and I thing most people thought the top table dealt with it reasonably well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 13:43:50 GMT
Seeing how quiet the other forum is during and after the AGM I think a lot of supporters who have questioned in the past have reached “acceptance”. Maybe it’s not such a bad place to be. The thing is, if you think back to the events of 2006 , Football has changed so much in those 11/12 years. The money in football is now even more insane. Short of someone with more money than sense coming in and bankrolling the club, ‘we’ have to work with what we have, or dream of mythical consortiums who may or may not be any better I may have issues with the old board and the way they went about things, Nick Higgs endlessly chasing a dream he could never meet, but they financed the club to the point they could no longer whatever their mistakes and for that they deserve some respect, even if I, or no one else didn’t always show it Maybe we are destined to be a 3rd division club or worse forever, but I don’t know what I am supposed to ‘DEMAND’ anymore. All I ever wanted was for us to be a better run football club and I don’t know how that fits/works now in the crazy world of football finance City fans are totally oblivious to any concept of budget constraints or debt worries etc and scream blue murder about a lousy january window despite the massive outlay from lansdown on ashton gate and a £21m+ wage budget and the same must apply at several other championship clubs. Do i want bristol rovers to be like that? No i dont but is it possible to get anywhere serious in football without that type of unrestrained spending? The dream is a well run financially viable rovers with a thriving youth system and a much improved or new ground that can sustain championship football. But is that just a pipe dream?
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Post by baggins on Mar 13, 2018 13:51:17 GMT
A handful of clubs in crippling debt and some no longer with us. Yea the toilets are awful, the pasties are crap, we've had no news regarding a ground, but as you say, 9th? L1? Still here? Been through so much worse. Yep can’t argue with that, it’s called marriage. Been there, done that.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 13, 2018 13:52:43 GMT
A handful of clubs in crippling debt and some no longer with us. Yea the toilets are awful, the pasties are crap, we've had no news regarding a ground, but as you say, 9th? L1? Still here? Been through so much worse. Yep can’t argue with that, it’s called marriage. Nah. Marriage is far, far worse.
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Post by gasincider on Mar 13, 2018 13:56:16 GMT
Respect the supporters after all without them we got nothing. I respect all Gas fans mate. Doesn't stop them talking out of their arse though. Says you.
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Post by baggins on Mar 13, 2018 13:57:42 GMT
I respect all Gas fans mate. Doesn't stop them talking out of their arse though. Says you. Oh the irony.
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Post by gasincider on Mar 13, 2018 14:00:16 GMT
Hells bells, Peter, I know you troll me but that was a quick response even by your standards. If you need an answer, then I'd have to ask where you've been for the last 50 years. Still, never mind. Your great great great grandchildren will be the beneficiaries of our current owners largesse. Remember, evolution not revolution. 😂 Sorry for being online at the time. Troll you? Maybe if you didn’t do the cryptic fishing or backtrack when challenged, you wouldn’t get pulled up so much. As for us being saved, we are an average football club in a poor stadium. I have reached acceptance. Doesn’t mean I don’t care or don’t want us to be better, but not sure what else I can do about it. The Al-Qadi’s say they are here for the long term and all I can do is believe them and there are many other things in my life that bother me or have more importance in my life than BRFC do or ever did I mean I am astounded/rocked and dumbfounded by the latest revelation that Dwane Sports have allegedly been told to invest big or sell up? This would never have crossed my mind No backtracking from me pal, nor cryptic fishing
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 13, 2018 14:03:00 GMT
One light hearted moment was when the vote was called to re-elect Steve Hamer as a director,the only vote against was Wael! that sent a chuckle around the room. And at the beginning, some bloke challenged why there were Legal fees charged in the accounts (as Mike Turner is a director and also is a partner in the legal firm) "as that money should go to Darrell & the playing squad instead" (or words to that effect). It was almost like some people think a football club who are buying and developing land and property for a training ground would never incur legal costs and all money should just go on players wages. The naivity is staggering. This wasn't really a light heated moment though, more a tad embarrassing and I thing most people thought the top table dealt with it reasonably well. Come on, you must have heard of pro bono (no, it's not a U2 fan club). I'm not suggesting all the work could be done as so (& maybe some has been done as so...) but it's not helpful to not mention it. I have done thousands of pounds worth of vol work for the club and for BRFPA & I am an inconsequential drop in the ocean. Others will have given hundreds of thousands of pounds worth for free, often over decades. It is possible. Maybe the question was just worded badly or spoken with passion / frustration but surely a question can still be valid?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 13, 2018 14:03:40 GMT
I respect all Gas fans mate. Doesn't stop them talking out of their arse though. Says you. Please remind us about the "consortium" waiting in the "corridors of Power" again..
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Post by gasincider on Mar 13, 2018 14:07:25 GMT
How pathetic. Slagging off fans who care enough to moan. If they didn't care they wouldn't moan. Remember we've had 50 years of bullsh*t about stadiums etc. I say moan and keep on moaning until something positive happens. Meanwhile contradiction, get back in your igloo and keep ringing the water board to reconnect you. Who knows, perhaps the cavalry will be coming over the hill to rescue us anytime now. Just to show you aren't being picked on by peterparker and also because you never answered his question.... Rescue us from what? From people who on arrival said the club had to leave the Mem, then changed their mind and now say that the Mem being redeveloped is the plan B. No it isn't, they know it and those who can think for themselves know it. The only hope of this club becoming viable at championship level is to move to a purpose built stadium elsewhere. They also know it, as do those of us who can think for themselves. Cant believe how many people sleep walk into oblivion. There is no doubt a training ground is important to the club, but it's being used as a sop because the real requirement to move this club forward is a new stadium.
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Post by gasincider on Mar 13, 2018 14:11:54 GMT
He doesn't go to games very often, so perhaps he was reminding himself of where we play. No doubt he's another dyed in the wool gashead. Mind you, looking at the accounts and what he charges, perhaps he could take us over and build us a stadium. Apparently he drives a Maserati with personalised number plates. That alone would get us the centre forward we need to play alongside Ellis. And be a lot more use to the club. How is it relevant what car he drives? He is a partner in a legal firm as well as being on the board of directors with a multi million pound turnover. Football clubs need lawyers you know. The club needs legal advice when developing a stadium or a training ground or god knows what other things. There was even a rep from the lawyers their last night, to keep track of the counts etc. Just to make sure things done right. Quite right too, what a difference from the old board. So Why the constant sh** stirring against the owners, who are decent people and trying to make us a sustainable club in the future? Or is it more likely you are just on a wind up, in which case fair play on having a laugh as people do bite. Point of order sir, I know you are new on here, and looking to make an impression, or are you a board member? No, you can't be , because you would know that Turner is not an owner of the club. Who said there was any relevance as to what car he drives? I stated a fact, then gave a view of that fact.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 13, 2018 14:12:02 GMT
Just to show you aren't being picked on by peterparker and also because you never answered his question.... Rescue us from what? From people who on arrival said the club had to leave the Mem, then changed their mind and now say that the Mem being redeveloped is the plan B. No it isn't, they know it and those who can think for themselves know it. The only hope of this club becoming viable at championship level is to move to a purpose built stadium elsewhere. They also know it, as do those of us who can think for themselves. Cant believe how many people sleep walk into oblivion. There is no doubt a training ground is important to the club, but it's being used as a sop because the real requirement to move this club forward is a new stadium. and just when is that going to happen ? Today tomorrow ? Never ?
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