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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 11:50:58 GMT
Tempted to put money on sunderland getting relegated,something not right about the take over and some poor players. The st mirren bloke should have took the ipswich job.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 26, 2018 13:12:57 GMT
I don't think it will be as easy as some might expect and, like I said before, it wouldn't surprise me if they are here for more than one season.
Hmm im not so sure, Bolton went straight back up whilst dealing with a transfer embargo
They might do but you can forget me backing them at 3/1 to win the league.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 26, 2018 13:14:44 GMT
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 26, 2018 13:21:32 GMT
I don't think it will be as easy as some might expect and, like I said before, it wouldn't surprise me if they are here for more than one season.
Hmm im not so sure, Bolton went straight back up whilst dealing with a transfer embargo
Yes, agree. Even after all their debts they start at an advantage financially for the season even if it’s a basket case for the longer term. Players will want to play there. As you say Bolton were in a pretty similar mess. UTG!
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Post by pirate on Jun 26, 2018 13:22:01 GMT
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Post by pirate on Jun 26, 2018 13:37:41 GMT
Ashley Smith-Brown [Manchester City - Plymouth Argyle] Undisclosed
Matty Pearson [Barnsley - Luton Town] Undisclosed
James Hanson [Sheffield United - Wimbledon] Undisclosed
Left back Smith-Brown could be decent for Argyle. The former England U20 player has picked up valuable experience in League One and the Dutch 2nd tier previously and was highly-rated.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 27, 2018 8:39:57 GMT
Hmm im not so sure, Bolton went straight back up whilst dealing with a transfer embargo
If they manage to keep the majority of their better players I think they will probably go up. 3 key players will be McGeady, Asoro and Honeyman. Asoro has the potential for 15-20 goals, Honeyman 12-15 goals from midfield and McGeady to provide the ammunition.
IMO players tend to follow money more than aiming as high up the ladder as possible, and Sunderland (even with their debt) should still have more than the rest of L1 combined to put into wages.
And, lets face it, L1 isn't anywhere near Championship standard so you don't have to be any great shakes to even get automatic promotion.
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Post by Squiffy on Jun 27, 2018 8:48:39 GMT
...so what does that make us!
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Post by axegas on Jun 27, 2018 9:10:01 GMT
If they manage to keep the majority of their better players I think they will probably go up. 3 key players will be McGeady, Asoro and Honeyman. Asoro has the potential for 15-20 goals, Honeyman 12-15 goals from midfield and McGeady to provide the ammunition.
IMO players tend to follow money more than aiming as high up the ladder as possible, and Sunderland (even with their debt) should still have more than the rest of L1 combined to put into wages.
And, lets face it, L1 isn't anywhere near Championship standard so you don't have to be any great shakes to even get automatic promotion.
I'd disagree with that, Sheffield United spent 6 years trying to get out of it and Leeds couldn't get back up at the first couple of attempts either despite being the massive club that they are. Obviously there is a difference in standard between League One and the Championship, that's just how a football pyramid works but League One is a very competitive league at the top decided by fine margins and the standard is improving all the time. You'd expect Sunderland to go straight back up but even for them it certainly won't be a cakewalk.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 27, 2018 9:16:45 GMT
If they manage to keep the majority of their better players I think they will probably go up. 3 key players will be McGeady, Asoro and Honeyman. Asoro has the potential for 15-20 goals, Honeyman 12-15 goals from midfield and McGeady to provide the ammunition.
IMO players tend to follow money more than aiming as high up the ladder as possible, and Sunderland (even with their debt) should still have more than the rest of L1 combined to put into wages.
And, lets face it, L1 isn't anywhere near Championship standard so you don't have to be any great shakes to even get automatic promotion.
Their new owner, the ex Eastleigh owner, has stated on Twitter earlier this week they'll have a £20m wage budget this season. Assuming there's any truth in that then that around 4 times as much as ours!! Even if it's half that sum it;s still double ours. The likes of Sheff Utd, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, even Rotherham(x2) seem to have bought themselves promotion since we've been in Div 1.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 27, 2018 9:17:45 GMT
If they manage to keep the majority of their better players I think they will probably go up. 3 key players will be McGeady, Asoro and Honeyman. Asoro has the potential for 15-20 goals, Honeyman 12-15 goals from midfield and McGeady to provide the ammunition.
IMO players tend to follow money more than aiming as high up the ladder as possible, and Sunderland (even with their debt) should still have more than the rest of L1 combined to put into wages.
And, lets face it, L1 isn't anywhere near Championship standard so you don't have to be any great shakes to even get automatic promotion.
Ask Manchester city what they think about league one teams...
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Post by blueridge on Jun 27, 2018 9:22:09 GMT
A lot of work to be done by DC & TW - eight players (inc loans) have left the club so far - and only two in. Business should really start to hot up next week - no mention of playing budgets?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 10:39:25 GMT
IMO players tend to follow money more than aiming as high up the ladder as possible, and Sunderland (even with their debt) should still have more than the rest of L1 combined to put into wages.
And, lets face it, L1 isn't anywhere near Championship standard so you don't have to be any great shakes to even get automatic promotion.
Their new owner, the ex Eastleigh owner, has stated on Twitter earlier this week they'll have a £20m wage budget this season. Assuming there's any truth in that then that around 4 times as much as ours!! Even if it's half that sum it;s still double ours. The likes of Sheff Utd, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, even Rotherham(x2) seem to have bought themselves promotion since we've been in Div 1. Trouble is a lot of that budget is already spent on bad players they are desperate to offload.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 27, 2018 10:46:54 GMT
Ashley Smith-Brown [Manchester City - Plymouth Argyle] Undisclosed Matty Pearson [Barnsley - Luton Town] Undisclosed James Hanson [Sheffield United - Wimbledon] Undisclosed Left back Smith-Brown could be decent for Argyle. The former England U20 player has picked up valuable experience in League One and the Dutch 2nd tier previously and was highly-rated. Every Oxford fan on the league one page, has said he was awful for them. They might just be saying that though.
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Post by axegas on Jun 27, 2018 10:57:15 GMT
Ashley Smith-Brown [Manchester City - Plymouth Argyle] Undisclosed Matty Pearson [Barnsley - Luton Town] Undisclosed James Hanson [Sheffield United - Wimbledon] Undisclosed Left back Smith-Brown could be decent for Argyle. The former England U20 player has picked up valuable experience in League One and the Dutch 2nd tier previously and was highly-rated. Every Oxford fan on the league one page, has said he was awful for them. They might just be saying that though. Harsh to judge a young player on a 9 game loan spell, Plymouth have the knack of taking unfancied players and developing them so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him turn out good.
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Post by pirate on Jun 27, 2018 10:59:53 GMT
Ashley Smith-Brown [Manchester City - Plymouth Argyle] Undisclosed Matty Pearson [Barnsley - Luton Town] Undisclosed James Hanson [Sheffield United - Wimbledon] Undisclosed Left back Smith-Brown could be decent for Argyle. The former England U20 player has picked up valuable experience in League One and the Dutch 2nd tier previously and was highly-rated. Every Oxford fan on the league one page, has said he was awful for them. They might just be saying that though. He might have been, but doesn't mean he will be for Plymouth. I saw him in a qualifier for one of the England youth teams a few years ago and he looked decent, although he was actually playing as a right back that day.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 27, 2018 11:02:36 GMT
Every Oxford fan on the league one page, has said he was awful for them. They might just be saying that though. Harsh to judge a young player on a 9 game loan spell, Plymouth have the knack of taking unfancied players and developing them so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him turn out good. Oxford do that as well though!
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Post by axegas on Jun 27, 2018 11:08:51 GMT
Harsh to judge a young player on a 9 game loan spell, Plymouth have the knack of taking unfancied players and developing them so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him turn out good. Oxford do that as well though! Roofe, Lundstram, Ledson ect all came from big clubs and were highly rated. Plymouth developed Lamieras who wasn’t rated by Coventry fans and Taylor who Oxford wanted rid of and turned them into really decent players, there’s a difference there I think.
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Post by poorblue on Jun 27, 2018 11:12:00 GMT
A lot of work to be done by DC & TW - eight players (inc loans) have left the club so far - and only two in. Business should really start to hot up next week - no mention of playing budgets? Top six playing budget will be announced all paid for from increased bar takings in the refurbished bars. Get down there and buy a few beers and help fund your team.Just hope they get the colour scheme right lol I don't buy into just because 8 players have left that 8 need to be replaced. If you have been watching the u23's (as opposed to just reading about games) there are players who might and should step up to the plate. After all isn't that what the u23's are all about? Russe, Kelly and Hargreaves Kilgor just to mention as few that catch my eye. I do expect just as the first teams is adjusted so also the u23's with 8 released and some of any new signings to be projects and not the finished article e.g Sam Matthews. Assuming there are no further outgoings and that is by no means certain yet. (I wonder if that is why it's very quite on the transfer front as DC is waiting for say Lockyer to go before he knows where to spend his money?) here is my take e.g Cental Halves :- Sweeney out but Meyanese back from loan. Alfie Kilgor fit again. Full Backs :- Brown, Burn and Bola out but Micheal Kelly looks ready and Tony Craig's best position Wide:- Bodin and Moore out but Mensah and Bennett already in. Mo Baghdadi looking good in U23's Midfield:- already set up very nicely IMO Mansell retired, Broom out. Ed Upson in with Russe and Hargreaves knocking on the door. Strikers:- Gaffney out but Nichols still in with a shout? This for me is the weak part of a very reasonable team squad. The midfield is very strong on goal scoring players, Centre halves a bit weak on that front and with the full backs pumping balls across the box with short ass Nichols up front can't see goals there or anyone else for that matter. Ellis is a good 10-12 goals a season striker for me but not a 20-30 man. Anyone in the U23's looking like being that man I don's see? So summarising for me it's at least one star striker and a spare needed for the first team to at least stand still in mid table. If it's the right strikers the playoffs are in sight. Any other signing for me will be development squad to be brought on. Here's to the new season with season CARD to come. UTG
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 27, 2018 11:14:21 GMT
Every Oxford fan on the league one page, has said he was awful for them. They might just be saying that though. Harsh to judge a young player on a 9 game loan spell, Plymouth have the knack of taking unfancied players and developing them so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him turn out good. Only saying what they said. One of the worst ever and they ended up playing a centre midfielder at left back, instead of him. Why did he only play 9 games?? 22 is not that young either. You never know until a player plays for a manager and a club though. Think he was signed as back up to Sawyer anyway and probally on low wages.
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