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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 8:36:07 GMT
I get that they have said mid July but I understand why people get frustrated. It used to come out early June and I think the club are missing a trick by releasing it so late. The number of people who would buy one just for their summer holidays would be significant in my opinion. So many different deals could also be done with a summer holiday package (new home shirt, towel and sunhat)? I see no reason to wait so long. Not a moan, merely an observation and opinion. The majority of people who want one will buy it whenever it comes out I would beg to differ, and I would be far more likely to buy one if I could wear it the summer before the campaign. I find it strange that we release our kits so late given the obvious opportunity to capitalise on the anticipation of a new season. Surely it's about maximising this stream of revenue? Some clubs release and play in the shirt on the last home game of the previous season which makes a lot of sense. Presumably we haven't been able to do this the to changing sponsors each year but it may be a possibility going forward.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 7, 2018 10:23:22 GMT
The majority of people who want one will buy it whenever it comes out I would beg to differ, and I would be far more likely to buy one if I could wear it the summer before the campaign. I find it strange that we release our kits so late given the obvious opportunity to capitalise on the anticipation of a new season. Surely it's about maximising this stream of revenue? Some clubs release and play in the shirt on the last home game of the previous season which makes a lot of sense. Presumably we haven't been able to do this the to changing sponsors each year but it may be a possibility going forward. Surely the vast majority of fans buy a shirt to wear to games not for their summer hols, if you want a shirt for that then why not just take this seasons, particularly this year when it's got "Thornton Travel" plastered across the front of it. If the ALQ's turned us into a Premiership club inside two seasons you sense some fans would still find something to moan about.
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Post by Squiffy on Jul 7, 2018 10:54:51 GMT
....that’s obvious. The massive increase in the cost of tickets, home and away for starters. 😡 lol.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 7, 2018 10:55:56 GMT
Not aimed at anyone but my theory is that there are some (I think my age and older who saw us playing at higher levels on a regular basis) who, psychologically, just cannot get over the fall to non-league. Anyone involved in that is, I their minds, tarnished by that. And look who is left - the man at the helm at the time for the last 8 games. There seem to be some who just cannot forgive. I am not one of these people and love DC and all he’s done. I hope he is here for a very long time. This is not directed at midland (rather inspired by!) as there are a few others I’ve met who seem to be of the same opinion. And that’s fair enough if people think dc isn’t up to L1 ... but that doesn’t stop me despairing of them! I don't think that's right unfortunately I believe that our fall from grace did us good it brought the team together with the fans and to be fair DC did a great job in getting us 2 back to back promotions but now it's time for him to move on and for us to get a more experienced manager at this level to push us on to the next level Let's look at the last two Rovers managers to achieve promotion (and they only managed one each). Francis - moves on to better things, immediate replacement is an experienced successful manager, Dobson, unmitigated disaster. Trollope - first management role, loses right hand man, we start believing the "taken us as far as he can", "inexperienced at this level" BS, swallow it, kick him out and get in an experienced, successful manager, Penney, unmitigated disaster. Maybe some of us don't want to kill the golden goose as quickly as you do. Another point, Francis side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with some future top flight performers (Holloway, Yates, White) sprinkled amongst them. Trollope's side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with a couple of former or future quality performers (Lambert, Elliott, Campbell). DC 's side, not the players with the highest abilities but at least a couple of quality players we expect to play at a higher level and our best players moved on upwards in each of the last two seasons. To use a car analogy our teams are Jeep-like...functional and rugged, getting the job done. Each replacement manager tries to put a Bentley badge on it and stick in a jaguar carburettor...either are ok in their place but just upset the smooth running of the whole. final point .. I have been a season ticket holder since 1992...26 years of 240 mile round trips to see a home game...this is the only time in that period where I have had four successive years of knowing I am not going to dread the match at the end. Under Rofe and co we went down, Ward and Holloway were always one good season followed by a bad one till relegation to the bottom tier, then Francis Thompson, Graydon, Atkins etc miserable few years, Trollope, three good seasons and then the sharp fall from grace, Buckle, McGhee, Ward mk II grim, just grim. DC in charge...I actually want to get in the car and go there. That's what it means to me, and why I will continue to support the fella for as long as he sticks with us. i don't care if he is not the most polished in interviews, scratches himself and twitches, occasionally makes an injudicious attempt at humour etc etc. He's the most honest and direct assessor of his and his team's performance both good and bad. One of the most "professional" managers we've had in front of the microphone was undoubtedly Martin Dobson and we all rejoiced when he was relieved of his duties. Be careful what you wish for...one day DC will move on, we all know that...and most of us expect a downturn in fortunes when he does.
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Post by legas on Jul 7, 2018 12:27:12 GMT
I don't think that's right unfortunately I believe that our fall from grace did us good it brought the team together with the fans and to be fair DC did a great job in getting us 2 back to back promotions but now it's time for him to move on and for us to get a more experienced manager at this level to push us on to the next level Let's look at the last two Rovers managers to achieve promotion (and they only managed one each). Francis - moves on to better things, immediate replacement is an experienced successful manager, Dobson, unmitigated disaster. Trollope - first management role, loses right hand man, we start believing the "taken us as far as he can", "inexperienced at this level" BS, swallow it, kick him out and get in an experienced, successful manager, Penney, unmitigated disaster. Maybe some of us don't want to kill the golden goose as quickly as you do. Another point, Francis side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with some future top flight performers (Holloway, Yates, White) sprinkled amongst them. Trollope's side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with a couple of former or future quality performers (Lambert, Elliott, Campbell). DC 's side, not the players with the highest abilities but at least a couple of quality players we expect to play at a higher level and our best players moved on upwards in each of the last two seasons. To use a car analogy our teams are Jeep-like...functional and rugged, getting the job done. Each replacement manager tries to put a Bentley badge on it and stick in a jaguar carburettor...either are ok in their place but just upset the smooth running of the whole. final point .. I have been a season ticket holder since 1992...26 years of 240 mile round trips to see a home game...this is the only time in that period where I have had four successive years of knowing I am not going to dread the match at the end. Under Rofe and co we went down, Ward and Holloway were always one good season followed by a bad one till relegation to the bottom tier, then Francis Thompson, Graydon, Atkins etc miserable few years, Trollope, three good seasons and then the sharp fall from grace, Buckle, McGhee, Ward mk II grim, just grim. DC in charge...I actually want to get in the car and go there. That's what it means to me, and why I will continue to support the fella for as long as he sticks with us. i don't care if he is not the most polished in interviews, scratches himself and twitches, occasionally makes an injudicious attempt at humour etc etc. He's the most honest and direct assessor of his and his team's performance both good and bad. One of the most "professional" managers we've had in front of the microphone was undoubtedly Martin Dobson and we all rejoiced when he was relieved of his duties. Be careful what you wish for...one day DC will move on, we all know that...and most of us expect a downturn in fortunes when he does. Yes, I completely agree with both these posts. I too think going down did us good and having started supporting in the Francis era (first time around), DC for me is the best manager we’ve had. Was just saying that I think that some (but not many) can never get over him being at the helm when we did go out of the league (but that certainly doesn’t apply to me ... and I do love his interviews too!).
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Post by legas on Jul 7, 2018 12:29:25 GMT
Let's look at the last two Rovers managers to achieve promotion (and they only managed one each). Francis - moves on to better things, immediate replacement is an experienced successful manager, Dobson, unmitigated disaster. Trollope - first management role, loses right hand man, we start believing the "taken us as far as he can", "inexperienced at this level" BS, swallow it, kick him out and get in an experienced, successful manager, Penney, unmitigated disaster. Maybe some of us don't want to kill the golden goose as quickly as you do. Another point, Francis side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with some future top flight performers (Holloway, Yates, White) sprinkled amongst them. Trollope's side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with a couple of former or future quality performers (Lambert, Elliott, Campbell). DC 's side, not the players with the highest abilities but at least a couple of quality players we expect to play at a higher level and our best players moved on upwards in each of the last two seasons. To use a car analogy our teams are Jeep-like...functional and rugged, getting the job done. Each replacement manager tries to put a Bentley badge on it and stick in a jaguar carburettor...either are ok in their place but just upset the smooth running of the whole. final point .. I have been a season ticket holder since 1992...26 years of 240 mile round trips to see a home game...this is the only time in that period where I have had four successive years of knowing I am not going to dread the match at the end. Under Rofe and co we went down, Ward and Holloway were always one good season followed by a bad one till relegation to the bottom tier, then Francis Thompson, Graydon, Atkins etc miserable few years, Trollope, three good seasons and then the sharp fall from grace, Buckle, McGhee, Ward mk II grim, just grim. DC in charge...I actually want to get in the car and go there. That's what it means to me, and why I will continue to support the fella for as long as he sticks with us. i don't care if he is not the most polished in interviews, scratches himself and twitches, occasionally makes an injudicious attempt at humour etc etc. He's the most honest and direct assessor of his and his team's performance both good and bad. One of the most "professional" managers we've had in front of the microphone was undoubtedly Martin Dobson and we all rejoiced when he was relieved of his duties. Be careful what you wish for...one day DC will move on, we all know that...and most of us expect a downturn in fortunes when he does. Yes, I completely agree with both these posts. I too think going down did us good and having started supporting in the Francis era (first time around), DC for me is the best manager we’ve had. Was just saying that I think that some (but not many) can never get over him being at the helm when we did go out of the league (but that certainly doesn’t apply to me ... and I do love his interviews too!). actually, I’ve just re-read your post midland - agree with the first bit but not the end bit!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 7, 2018 17:28:28 GMT
Maybe because we are just a small club dealing with Macron, we are at the bottom of a long list of teams wanted new kit produced ASAP ? Post directly addressing topic of thread title. Automatic Ban!
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 7, 2018 17:38:13 GMT
I don't think that's right unfortunately I believe that our fall from grace did us good it brought the team together with the fans and to be fair DC did a great job in getting us 2 back to back promotions but now it's time for him to move on and for us to get a more experienced manager at this level to push us on to the next level Let's look at the last two Rovers managers to achieve promotion (and they only managed one each). Francis - moves on to better things, immediate replacement is an experienced successful manager, Dobson, unmitigated disaster. Trollope - first management role, loses right hand man, we start believing the "taken us as far as he can", "inexperienced at this level" BS, swallow it, kick him out and get in an experienced, successful manager, Penney, unmitigated disaster. Maybe some of us don't want to kill the golden goose as quickly as you do. Another point, Francis side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with some future top flight performers (Holloway, Yates, White) sprinkled amongst them. Trollope's side, not the players with the highest abilities but players who knew their roles with a couple of former or future quality performers (Lambert, Elliott, Campbell). DC 's side, not the players with the highest abilities but at least a couple of quality players we expect to play at a higher level and our best players moved on upwards in each of the last two seasons. To use a car analogy our teams are Jeep-like...functional and rugged, getting the job done. Each replacement manager tries to put a Bentley badge on it and stick in a jaguar carburettor...either are ok in their place but just upset the smooth running of the whole. final point .. I have been a season ticket holder since 1992...26 years of 240 mile round trips to see a home game...this is the only time in that period where I have had four successive years of knowing I am not going to dread the match at the end. Under Rofe and co we went down, Ward and Holloway were always one good season followed by a bad one till relegation to the bottom tier, then Francis Thompson, Graydon, Atkins etc miserable few years, Trollope, three good seasons and then the sharp fall from grace, Buckle, McGhee, Ward mk II grim, just grim. DC in charge...I actually want to get in the car and go there. That's what it means to me, and why I will continue to support the fella for as long as he sticks with us. i don't care if he is not the most polished in interviews, scratches himself and twitches, occasionally makes an injudicious attempt at humour etc etc. He's the most honest and direct assessor of his and his team's performance both good and bad. One of the most "professional" managers we've had in front of the microphone was undoubtedly Martin Dobson and we all rejoiced when he was relieved of his duties. Be careful what you wish for...one day DC will move on, we all know that...and most of us expect a downturn in fortunes when he does. Well done Wembley. Only do a 160 mile round trip but completely agree. You’ve summed up the 30 years pretty well and I can only agree with what you’ve said. DC has been fantastic and I know it’s about opinions and all that but if you think otherwise then I would despair. Mind you your looking at it with too much common sense and some on here won’t agree! That doesn’t stop you from being correct though. UTG!
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 7, 2018 17:55:16 GMT
OMG!!!!!!!!!! I'm surprised most of you can't see what Midland "gas" is! Am I the only one ?
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Post by midlandgas213 on Jul 7, 2018 18:03:33 GMT
Just one point in favour of DC when he took over he was dropped directly into the sh** and did not have much of a chance of keeping us up never for one moment have I ever blamed him for the relegation and I never will you get relegated over a season not over 8 games. At that time I actually felt very sorry for him but glad he was on board for the 2 promotions again for which I will be ever thankful but that now is history and I do not believe he is the right man to lead us forward to the next chapter of our club. For the last 2 seasons I have said I would be happy with a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference and I have also said that within 5 years I would like us to be an established championship club (the premier league is a bridge to far for us at any stage in the next 10 years). So I would like to see someone at the helm with the experience and knowledge of the championship to take us there and get us established but DC is not the right man to do this imho
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Post by midlandgas213 on Jul 7, 2018 18:04:20 GMT
OMG!!!!!!!!!! I'm surprised most of you can't see what Midland "gas" is! Am I the only one ? Do you want to expand on that
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 7, 2018 18:09:05 GMT
OMG!!!!!!!!!! I'm surprised most of you can't see what Midland "gas" is! Am I the only one ? Do you want to expand on that Sure, not a problem. IMO you are a wum! A wum (because you wanted it spelled out) , is a WIND UP MERCHANT!! There you go.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 7, 2018 18:25:26 GMT
Just one point in favour of DC when he took over he was dropped directly into the sh** and did not have much of a chance of keeping us up never for one moment have I ever blamed him for the relegation and I never will you get relegated over a season not over 8 games. At that time I actually felt very sorry for him but glad he was on board for the 2 promotions again for which I will be ever thankful but that now is history and I do not believe he is the right man to lead us forward to the next chapter of our club. For the last 2 seasons I have said I would be happy with a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference and I have also said that within 5 years I would like us to be an established championship club (the premier league is a bridge to far for us at any stage in the next 10 years). So I would like to see someone at the helm with the experience and knowledge of the championship to take us there and get us established but DC is not the right man to do this imho Why do you think any other manager would be able to get more out of Rovers, given the resources available? We have a bottom 10 budget I would expect, and bottom 4 facilities. Why should anybody else be able to get us into the Championship? DC has worked miracles getting us to a top half and midtable finish 2 years running, immediately after 2 consecutive promotions. For that reason alone he should not be replaced, let alone the fact that you clearly don't put much stock into "stability", which I personally think is a key ingredient to our progression, especially seeing as we can't compete financially with the top half of this league.
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Post by BrightonGas on Jul 7, 2018 18:48:05 GMT
OMG!!!!!!!!!! I'm surprised most of you can't see what Midland "gas" is! Am I the only one ? No! You're not! already called it! hes loving all the attention! Just watched the game at the British GP in my Rovers shirt! Great afternoon! Not letting Midland spoil it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 7:44:33 GMT
I would beg to differ, and I would be far more likely to buy one if I could wear it the summer before the campaign. I find it strange that we release our kits so late given the obvious opportunity to capitalise on the anticipation of a new season. Surely it's about maximising this stream of revenue? Some clubs release and play in the shirt on the last home game of the previous season which makes a lot of sense. Presumably we haven't been able to do this the to changing sponsors each year but it may be a possibility going forward. Surely the vast majority of fans buy a shirt to wear to games not for their summer hols, if you want a shirt for that then why not just take this seasons, particularly this year when it's got "Thornton Travel" plastered across the front of it. If the ALQ's turned us into a Premiership club inside two seasons you sense some fans would still find something to moan about. So supporters shouldn't query and point out an obvious opportunity to increase revenue? This isn't a moan, purely an observation which I suspect would be validated when looking at kit sales of other clubs.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Jul 8, 2018 8:47:37 GMT
OMG!!!!!!!!!! I'm surprised most of you can't see what Midland "gas" is! Am I the only one ? No! You're not! already called it! hes loving all the attention! Just watched the game at the British GP in my Rovers shirt! Great afternoon! Not letting Midland spoil it! vettel to win then
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Post by midlandgas213 on Jul 8, 2018 8:49:25 GMT
Just one point in favour of DC when he took over he was dropped directly into the sh** and did not have much of a chance of keeping us up never for one moment have I ever blamed him for the relegation and I never will you get relegated over a season not over 8 games. At that time I actually felt very sorry for him but glad he was on board for the 2 promotions again for which I will be ever thankful but that now is history and I do not believe he is the right man to lead us forward to the next chapter of our club. For the last 2 seasons I have said I would be happy with a top 10 finish and a positive goal difference and I have also said that within 5 years I would like us to be an established championship club (the premier league is a bridge to far for us at any stage in the next 10 years). So I would like to see someone at the helm with the experience and knowledge of the championship to take us there and get us established but DC is not the right man to do this imho Why do you think any other manager would be able to get more out of Rovers, given the resources available? We have a bottom 10 budget I would expect, and bottom 4 facilities. Why should anybody else be able to get us into the Championship? DC has worked miracles getting us to a top half and midtable finish 2 years running, immediately after 2 consecutive promotions. For that reason alone he should not be replaced, let alone the fact that you clearly don't put much stock into "stability", which I personally think is a key ingredient to our progression, especially seeing as we can't compete financially with the top half of this league. How about stability on the pitch with team selection
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