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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 10:27:49 GMT
I really don't get the obsession with Telford.
Hardly played last season as DC obviously didn't fancy him. Showed moments of class but not enough to warrant starting games let alone signing on a permanent deal. Also doesn't offer anything that Gaffney or Harrison gave us so couldn't replace them in the lineup.
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Post by cj on Jul 24, 2018 10:49:51 GMT
I really don't get the obsession with Telford. Hardly played last season as DC obviously didn't fancy him. Showed moments of class but not enough to warrant starting games let alone signing on a permanent deal. Also doesn't offer anything that Gaffney or Harrison gave us so couldn't replace them in the lineup. Dont think anyone is suggesting Telford to replace Gaffney/Harrison. We need a minimum 2 strikers in before the end of the transfer window. 1 can be Telford and another a big guy who can give us what we have lost with Gaffney/Harrison. Did you not hear DC's interview during last season about Telford? DC was getting him ready for this season as he believed he would be released by Stoke this summer and DC would sign him. But Stoke changed managers and their new manager seems to want to keep Telford now. Just because DC hardly played him doesn't mean he doesn't fancy him. DC in fact rates Telford very highly. As for the obsession part. No, not obsessed with him. Just makes sense where he is highly rated by DC, he knows our club and our set up and would easily fall into place. Like you said he showed moments of class, imagine what he can do if he was starting every game? So its not an obsession, just makes sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 10:54:50 GMT
I really don't get the obsession with Telford. Hardly played last season as DC obviously didn't fancy him. Showed moments of class but not enough to warrant starting games let alone signing on a permanent deal. Also doesn't offer anything that Gaffney or Harrison gave us so couldn't replace them in the lineup. Dont think anyone is suggesting Telford to replace Gaffney/Harrison. We need a minimum 2 strikers in before the end of the transfer window. 1 can be Telford and another a big guy who can give us what we have lost with Gaffney/Harrison. Did you not hear DC's interview during last season about Telford? DC was getting him ready for this season as he believed he would be released by Stoke this summer and DC would sign him. But Stoke changed managers and their new manager seems to want to keep Telford now. Just because DC hardly played him doesn't mean he doesn't fancy him. DC in fact rates Telford very highly. As for the obsession part. No, not obsessed with him. Just makes sense where he is highly rated by DC, he knows our club and our set up and would easily fall into place. Like you said he showed moments of class, imagine what he can do if he was starting every game? So its not an obsession, just makes sense. Fair enough, I see what you're saying. I personally didn't see enough from him to make me want to sign him permanently. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 24, 2018 10:54:52 GMT
I really don't get the obsession with Telford. Hardly played last season as DC obviously didn't fancy him. Showed moments of class but not enough to warrant starting games let alone signing on a permanent deal. Also doesn't offer anything that Gaffney or Harrison gave us so couldn't replace them in the lineup. Dont think anyone is suggesting Telford to replace Gaffney/Harrison. We need a minimum 2 strikers in before the end of the transfer window. 1 can be Telford and another a big guy who can give us what we have lost with Gaffney/Harrison. Did you not hear DC's interview during last season about Telford? DC was getting him ready for this season as he believed he would be released by Stoke this summer and DC would sign him. But Stoke changed managers and their new manager seems to want to keep Telford now. Just because DC hardly played him doesn't mean he doesn't fancy him. DC in fact rates Telford very highly. As for the obsession part. No, not obsessed with him. Just makes sense where he is highly rated by DC, he knows our club and our set up and would easily fall into place. Like you said he showed moments of class, imagine what he can do if he was starting every game? So its not an obsession, just makes sense. Agree with your comments. DC has stated loads of times, he prefers to develop his own players, over the player's we have on loan. If we signed Telford permanently, I think he would start a lot more games for us next season. Plus he is still young and should get better every season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 10:55:09 GMT
I really don't get the obsession with Telford. Hardly played last season as DC obviously didn't fancy him. Showed moments of class but not enough to warrant starting games let alone signing on a permanent deal. Also doesn't offer anything that Gaffney or Harrison gave us so couldn't replace them in the lineup. Showed bags of potential outside the first team and did well when he featured. Scored three times in 328 minutes of game time which is quite impressive. In comparison, Harrison averaged a goal every 291 minutes. Clearly stats don't tell the story but he looked like a smart, natural finisher to me which we didn't really have at the club. |
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 24, 2018 10:57:59 GMT
Stockley
Toney
Cole
Bogle
One of the above to come in and replace Ellis and then I think we still need at least one more striker to add strength in depth. Dom coming back on another loan seems logical, but then if he is just going to rot in the ressies for a year again then what is the point really?
Lets be clear though, this next 2 week period will pretty much define the ambition this current board has. I think most of us buy into the building blocks approach they have taken thus far and it has started to bare fruit, but make no mistake, we have now lost 3 of our best players over the last 18 months and all were paid for. That money needs to be reinvested in the squad.
We either make a real statement of intent and go and smash our transfer record with a big fee paid for one of the above strikers or we play it safe and bring in an untried and untested striker and hope for the best.
My biggest fear here is if the board do not show ambition right now I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the next champ / top end league 1 club who come sniffing around DC and he will be gone. If we thought losing the Snake, Bodin or Ellis was a disaster, well losing DC would be cataclysmic!
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Post by 84gas on Jul 24, 2018 11:15:29 GMT
Rest assured our chairman “thinks” we will have a replacement for Ellis by first game of season...not as if the window will be shut by then!!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 24, 2018 11:15:40 GMT
Omar Bogle is a good shout but if he was available a bit surprising Hurst didn't want to sign him for Ipswich instead of Harrison when you consider how well he did for him at Grimsby. It looks like he's got ahead of himself club's wise as even at P'boro last season he only got 1 gaol in 9 games, I'd imagine Cardiff will be looking to offload him to any club prepared to take him off their hands. What's happened to Eoin Doyle who Pirate(?) recommended previously, a bit on the short side but always scores goals at Div 1 level. Fair play, that’s probably up with Zebroski in terms of strike rate! |
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Post by cj on Jul 24, 2018 11:21:59 GMT
Dont think anyone is suggesting Telford to replace Gaffney/Harrison. We need a minimum 2 strikers in before the end of the transfer window. 1 can be Telford and another a big guy who can give us what we have lost with Gaffney/Harrison. Did you not hear DC's interview during last season about Telford? DC was getting him ready for this season as he believed he would be released by Stoke this summer and DC would sign him. But Stoke changed managers and their new manager seems to want to keep Telford now. Just because DC hardly played him doesn't mean he doesn't fancy him. DC in fact rates Telford very highly. As for the obsession part. No, not obsessed with him. Just makes sense where he is highly rated by DC, he knows our club and our set up and would easily fall into place. Like you said he showed moments of class, imagine what he can do if he was starting every game? So its not an obsession, just makes sense. Fair enough, I see what you're saying. I personally didn't see enough from him to make me want to sign him permanently. Likewise I haven't seen enough either to be honest. But what I have heard from DC and from others, which to be fair is all I can basically go on, I would be happy if he came back to us. I said permanent deal only because I don't like loans either like DC. Say he comes back to us on loan and rips this league apart. All of a sudden, we got the best out of him and Stoke gets the reward with a much bigger fee if they then decide to sell him. But if we had him on a perm deal and didnt have a release clause of 300k then we would get a the big fee if we end up selling which we seem to do a lot. All ifs and buts of course. He could end up being another Luke James and Tom Nicols. But I would take that gamble purely where he has the advantage over other players where he already Knows the club and DC etc. |
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Post by cj on Jul 24, 2018 11:24:36 GMT
I really don't get the obsession with Telford. Hardly played last season as DC obviously didn't fancy him. Showed moments of class but not enough to warrant starting games let alone signing on a permanent deal. Also doesn't offer anything that Gaffney or Harrison gave us so couldn't replace them in the lineup. Showed bags of potential outside the first team and did well when he featured. Scored three times in 328 minutes of game time which is quite impressive. In comparison, Harrison averaged a goal every 291 minutes. Clearly stats don't tell the story but he looked like a smart, natural finisher to me which we didn't really have at the club. What was Nichols and Gaffney's stats? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 11:27:28 GMT
Showed bags of potential outside the first team and did well when he featured. Scored three times in 328 minutes of game time which is quite impressive. In comparison, Harrison averaged a goal every 291 minutes. Clearly stats don't tell the story but he looked like a smart, natural finisher to me which we didn't really have at the club. What was Nichols and Gaffney's stats? What "were"... |
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Post by CrispPusher on Jul 24, 2018 12:06:23 GMT
I really don't get the obsession with Telford. Hardly played last season as DC obviously didn't fancy him. Showed moments of class but not enough to warrant starting games let alone signing on a permanent deal. Also doesn't offer anything that Gaffney or Harrison gave us so couldn't replace them in the lineup. Dont think anyone is suggesting Telford to replace Gaffney/Harrison. We need a minimum 2 strikers in before the end of the transfer window. 1 can be Telford and another a big guy who can give us what we have lost with Gaffney/Harrison. Did you not hear DC's interview during last season about Telford? DC was getting him ready for this season as he believed he would be released by Stoke this summer and DC would sign him. But Stoke changed managers and their new manager seems to want to keep Telford now. Just because DC hardly played him doesn't mean he doesn't fancy him. DC in fact rates Telford very highly. As for the obsession part. No, not obsessed with him. Just makes sense where he is highly rated by DC, he knows our club and our set up and would easily fall into place. Like you said he showed moments of class, imagine what he can do if he was starting every game? So its not an obsession, just makes sense. Telford didn't want to come back as he isn't very fond of DC. |
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Post by pudseygas on Jul 24, 2018 12:24:24 GMT
Rest assured our chairman “thinks” we will have a replacement for Ellis by first game of season...not as if the window will be shut by then!! Window shuts on the 9th after the posh game. I can see someone coming in last minute as usual |
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Post by countygroundhotel on Jul 24, 2018 13:28:05 GMT
Not sure of his current situation but as a short term signing what about Morrison from Millwall?
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Post by singupgas on Jul 24, 2018 14:00:04 GMT
Not sure of his current situation but as a short term signing what about Morrison from Millwall? I dont know if we can afford to have short term signings if we intend to do well from the first kick. ill be a little disappointed if we dont have at least one striker through the door before Peterbrough. There has been list or names of players we could go after on this thread alone. |
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Post by cj on Jul 24, 2018 14:02:03 GMT
What was Nichols and Gaffney's stats? What "were"... Sorry Mrs Brown.
(My English teacher back in the day)
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Post by cj on Jul 24, 2018 14:07:56 GMT
Rest assured our chairman “thinks” we will have a replacement for Ellis by first game of season...not as if the window will be shut by then!! Window shuts on the 9th after the posh game. I can see someone coming in last minute as usual I thought the window shuts before the 1st game. So I just double checked and you are right. 9th of August. So we have a few extra days than I thought.
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Post by albaron on Jul 24, 2018 14:25:27 GMT
We need two strikers in well before the Peterboro game -- Hopefully someone is on the case now. Also if that's all Steve Hamer can come up with would have been better not to say anything.
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Post by axegas on Jul 24, 2018 14:28:30 GMT
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Post by pirate on Jul 24, 2018 14:30:19 GMT
First reply on the thread: "Bristol Rovers and Portsmouth aren't much of a step up from us." |
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