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Post by peterparker on Jun 10, 2019 16:03:40 GMT
so who is "Ready for Raab"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 16:23:41 GMT
so who is "Ready for Raab" Seig Heil It makes you wonder Simon, how more incompetent can this lot prove themselves to be!!
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Post by baggins on Jun 10, 2019 16:43:00 GMT
so who is "Ready for Raab" Seig Heil It makes you wonder Simon, how more incompetent can this lot prove themselves to be!! Give them time.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 11, 2019 7:44:14 GMT
Anyone noticed how much Boris' tax pledges will cost? 😎
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 9:31:14 GMT
Anyone noticed how much Boris' tax pledges will cost? 😎 Does he know? I noticed his tactic of avoiding any interviews or questions, running scared I would suggest.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 11, 2019 9:35:19 GMT
Anyone noticed how much Boris' tax pledges will cost? 😎 Does he know? I noticed his tactic of avoiding any interviews or questions, running scared I would suggest. According to BBC article yesterday it will cost £10bn (which is roughly our net payment to the EU). Paid for by a one off savings in borrowing and NI increases. Nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 9:38:09 GMT
Does he know? I noticed his tactic of avoiding any interviews or questions, running scared I would suggest. According to BBC article yesterday it will cost £10bn (which is roughly our net payment to the EU). Paid for by a one off savings in borrowing and NI increases. Nice. Indeed. NI increases across the board (I presume) whilst feeding the higher earners. Is this a ploy to get Corbyn elected?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 11, 2019 9:48:03 GMT
According to BBC article yesterday it will cost £10bn (which is roughly our net payment to the EU). Paid for by a one off savings in borrowing and NI increases. Nice. Indeed. NI increases across the board (I presume) whilst feeding the higher earners. Is this a ploy to get Corbyn elected? The plan: To raise the higher income tax rate from £50,000 to £80,000. What it means: At the moment, individuals have to pay 40% income tax on any earnings above £50,000 . So, a person earning £55,000 a year, pays 40% on £5,000. Under Mr Johnson's plan, the point at which the 40% higher rate kicks in would be raised to £80,000. Mr Johnson also wants to raise national insurance - to absorb some of the cost. National insurance is a separate tax. It's only paid for by workers and companies and it is meant to fund state benefits, such as the NHS. Under this new tax regime, someone earning £60,000 a year could benefit by £1,000 a year; while someone on £80,000 or more would gain a maximum of £3,000. But it's wealthy pensioners who stand to benefit the most, up to £6,000 each according to analysis from the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS). That's because pensioners don't pay national insurance to begin with. So if someone already receives a generous work pension, not only will they be subject to less income tax (up to the new threshold), they also won't be affected by the national insurance rise. Changing the tax system in this way would cost around £10bn a year, according to Mr Johnson. He says the bill could be funded from the £26.6bn of "fiscal headroom". This "headroom" refers to government borrowing, which came in lower than originally expected and had been ear-marked by the chancellor for no-deal Brexit planning However, if Mr Johnson chooses to fund his tax changes with this lower borrowing, it would not amount to a permanent solution. That's because the money can only be spent once. So, to pay for the policy in the long-term, Mr Johnson will need to raise taxes elsewhere, announce spending cuts or continue to fund it from government borrowing. www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-48581467
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 11, 2019 10:56:31 GMT
Wouldnt have looked as good on a bus though would it.
"We give £350 million a week to the EU. Let's underfund our NHS whilst giving tax cuts to the rich instead".
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Post by peterparker on Jun 11, 2019 11:40:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 11:55:29 GMT
Wouldnt have looked as good on a bus though would it. "We give £350 million a week to the EU. Let's underfund our NHS whilst giving tax cuts to the rich instead". Indeed sir. But it wasn't a lie, it was a "political" statement!!🤔🙄
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 11:56:30 GMT
Indeed. NI increases across the board (I presume) whilst feeding the higher earners. Is this a ploy to get Corbyn elected? The plan: To raise the higher income tax rate from £50,000 to £80,000. What it means: At the moment, individuals have to pay 40% income tax on any earnings above £50,000 . So, a person earning £55,000 a year, pays 40% on £5,000. Under Mr Johnson's plan, the point at which the 40% higher rate kicks in would be raised to £80,000. Mr Johnson also wants to raise national insurance - to absorb some of the cost. National insurance is a separate tax. It's only paid for by workers and companies and it is meant to fund state benefits, such as the NHS. Under this new tax regime, someone earning £60,000 a year could benefit by £1,000 a year; while someone on £80,000 or more would gain a maximum of £3,000. But it's wealthy pensioners who stand to benefit the most, up to £6,000 each according to analysis from the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS). That's because pensioners don't pay national insurance to begin with. So if someone already receives a generous work pension, not only will they be subject to less income tax (up to the new threshold), they also won't be affected by the national insurance rise. Changing the tax system in this way would cost around £10bn a year, according to Mr Johnson. He says the bill could be funded from the £26.6bn of "fiscal headroom". This "headroom" refers to government borrowing, which came in lower than originally expected and had been ear-marked by the chancellor for no-deal Brexit planning However, if Mr Johnson chooses to fund his tax changes with this lower borrowing, it would not amount to a permanent solution. That's because the money can only be spent once. So, to pay for the policy in the long-term, Mr Johnson will need to raise taxes elsewhere, announce spending cuts or continue to fund it from government borrowing. www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-48581467Their economic incompetence knows no bounds it seems. Leavers paradise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 12:01:16 GMT
Have you listened to the bloke? What nonsense !
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Post by peterparker on Jun 11, 2019 12:06:03 GMT
Have you listened to the bloke? What nonsense ! rather than just say it's nonsense, tell us what you think is nonsense Nobby?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 12:09:47 GMT
Have you listened to the bloke? What nonsense ! Whether we import more is speculation, more costs undoubtedly. The rest was spot on. But we have been saying this for a couple of years now, and still Leavers cannot explain why this is not true. Saying it ain't so doesn't cut it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 12:13:11 GMT
Have you listened to the bloke? What nonsense ! rather than just say it's nonsense, tell us what you think is nonsense Nobby? He says, "if you leave the EU it will mean more imports, and less exports, meaning less production and job losses". He doesn't say why imports will go up? Why would the UK need to import more on leaving the EU? and of course, we've heard all about job losses before haven't we. How did that claim go?
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Post by peterparker on Jun 11, 2019 12:16:03 GMT
rather than just say it's nonsense, tell us what you think is nonsense Nobby? He says, "if you leave the EU it will mean more imports, and less exports, meaning less production and job losses". He doesn't say why imports will go up? Why would the UK need to import more on leaving the EU? and of course, we've heard all about job losses before haven't we. How did that claim go? he did as he mentioned the tariff cuts that were proclaimed by BREXiteers. Make imports cheaper, likey to import more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 12:17:50 GMT
He says, "if you leave the EU it will mean more imports, and less exports, meaning less production and job losses". He doesn't say why imports will go up? Why would the UK need to import more on leaving the EU? and of course, we've heard all about job losses before haven't we. How did that claim go? he did as he mentioned the tariff cuts that were proclaimed by BREXiteers. Make imports cheaper, likey to import more. Then he's talking about a hypothetical situation that doesn't look like happening.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 11, 2019 12:21:55 GMT
he did as he mentioned the tariff cuts that were proclaimed by BREXiteers. Make imports cheaper, likey to import more. Then he's talking about a hypothetical situation that doesn't look like happening. Hypothetical maybe, but his is an opinion at least based in reality and experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 12:28:10 GMT
Then he's talking about a hypothetical situation that doesn't look like happening. Hypothetical maybe, but his is an opinion at least based in reality and experience.
But this is what is now termed an 'Oldie Opinion' as it is just looking at things in Black & White.
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