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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 12:33:14 GMT
Hypothetical maybe, but his is an opinion at least based in reality and experience.
But this is what is now termed an 'Oldie Opinion' as it is just looking at things in Black & White. Is that the new term when forced to face facts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 8:59:19 GMT
"Discount supermarket chain Lidl plans to open 40 new stores in the south-east of England. The £500m investment will take place over five years and will include a new UK head office in south-west London. The move will create 1,500 new jobs, a boost for the traditional retail sector which has seen high-profile store closures in recent years." This cannot be right. What happened to the claim that Aldi and Lidl rely on 1,000 lorries per day using the Channel Crossing, and that Brexit would cause huge delays resulting in shops like these having empty shelves? Yet, they are expanding. Are they mad? BBC News
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 9:11:46 GMT
"Discount supermarket chain Lidl plans to open 40 new stores in the south-east of England. The £500m investment will take place over five years and will include a new UK head office in south-west London. The move will create 1,500 new jobs, a boost for the traditional retail sector which has seen high-profile store closures in recent years." This cannot be right. What happened to the claim that Aldi and Lidl rely on 1,000 lorries per day using the Channel Crossing, and that Brexit would cause huge delays resulting in shops like these having empty shelves? Yet, they are expanding. Are they mad? BBC NewsThe clue is in the opening line. They are expanding in remain areas. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 9:30:56 GMT
"Discount supermarket chain Lidl plans to open 40 new stores in the south-east of England. The £500m investment will take place over five years and will include a new UK head office in south-west London. The move will create 1,500 new jobs, a boost for the traditional retail sector which has seen high-profile store closures in recent years." This cannot be right. What happened to the claim that Aldi and Lidl rely on 1,000 lorries per day using the Channel Crossing, and that Brexit would cause huge delays resulting in shops like these having empty shelves? Yet, they are expanding. Are they mad? BBC NewsThe clue is in the opening line. They are expanding in remain areas. 🤣🤣🤣 Eh? I'd imagine they are expanding in areas where they know they will make a profit. Nowt to do with 'remain areas'. These companies are in the profit game, not playing silly little games. If you think the opening line is a clue I suggest you never play Cluedo. Now, what about these huge queues you forecast that would stop these companies from getting supplies to their supermarkets?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 9:43:46 GMT
The clue is in the opening line. They are expanding in remain areas. 🤣🤣🤣 Eh? I'd imagine they are expanding in areas where they know they will make a profit. Nowt to do with 'remain areas'. These companies are in the profit game, not playing silly little games. If you think the opening line is a clue I suggest you never play Cluedo. Now, what about these huge queues you forecast that would stop these companies from getting supplies to their supermarkets? Firstly, I was messing about, joking. Secondly, we have not left yet, so currently there are no constraints. A no deal departure will expose the fault lines. Interesting though that this company is confident enough to expand.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 10:05:28 GMT
Eh? I'd imagine they are expanding in areas where they know they will make a profit. Nowt to do with 'remain areas'. These companies are in the profit game, not playing silly little games. If you think the opening line is a clue I suggest you never play Cluedo. Now, what about these huge queues you forecast that would stop these companies from getting supplies to their supermarkets? Firstly, I was messing about, joking. Secondly, we have not left yet, so currently there are no constraints. A no deal departure will expose the fault lines. Interesting though that this company is confident enough to expand. They've either :- A. Worked to ensure their supply chain will continue to function efficiently. B. Sourced more stuff from within the UK. C. A combination of both.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 11:00:01 GMT
Firstly, I was messing about, joking. Secondly, we have not left yet, so currently there are no constraints. A no deal departure will expose the fault lines. Interesting though that this company is confident enough to expand. They've either :- A. Worked to ensure their supply chain will continue to function efficiently. B. Sourced more stuff from within the UK. C. A combination of both. I would presume so. There are not to many other variables.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 11:34:21 GMT
They've either :- A. Worked to ensure their supply chain will continue to function efficiently. B. Sourced more stuff from within the UK. C. A combination of both. I would presume so. There are not to many other variables. It just shows that business/trade will always find a way. When there is profit to be made they will find solutions to any problems.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 11:36:47 GMT
In the meantime.... "Parliament out of options to stop no-deal Brexit, says Letwin The defeat means parliament has now exhausted the options for preventing a no-deal exit, according to Letwin. “We have run out of all the possibilities that any of us can at the moment think of,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. The interviewer Nick Robinson pointed out that MPs could not block a no-deal exit happening by default if no legislation was put before parliament." The Guardian
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 13:11:52 GMT
I would presume so. There are not to many other variables. It just shows that business/trade will always find a way. When there is profit to be made they will find solutions to any problems. I have no doubt, eventually. But at what cost, and who will bear that cost is the question. That has always been the fundamental issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 16:57:34 GMT
Meanwhile, whilst we disappear up our own ass concerned about the pratts in the Tory Party, the big boys are getting on with it. We wont be part of this, as it stands. EU seals deal to boost U.S. beef imports: sources flip.it/3XPzPd
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Post by peterparker on Jun 14, 2019 7:36:01 GMT
Meanwhile, whilst we disappear up our own ass concerned about the pratts in the Tory Party, the big boys are getting on with it. We wont be part of this, as it stands. EU seals deal to boost U.S. beef imports: sources flip.it/3XPzPdkey take aways
The EU is currently in free-trade negotiations with Australia and with South America's Mercosur trade bloc, of which Argentina and Uruguay are members
Europe is also offering to start negotiations on a trade deal with the United States to remove import duties on industrial goods
The trade talks are part of an agreement struck last year between Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump, under which the United States agreed not to impose punitive tariffs on EU car imports while the two sides sought to improve transatlantic trade ties.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 7:54:23 GMT
Meanwhile, whilst we disappear up our own ass concerned about the pratts in the Tory Party, the big boys are getting on with it. We wont be part of this, as it stands. EU seals deal to boost U.S. beef imports: sources flip.it/3XPzPdkey take aways
The EU is currently in free-trade negotiations with Australia and with South America's Mercosur trade bloc, of which Argentina and Uruguay are members
Europe is also offering to start negotiations on a trade deal with the United States to remove import duties on industrial goods
The trade talks are part of an agreement struck last year between Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump, under which the United States agreed not to impose punitive tariffs on EU car imports while the two sides sought to improve transatlantic trade ties.
Depressing isn't it. In the meantime it looks like we are going to get the incompetent, lying lady garden that is Johnson as our unelected Prime Minister.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 8:13:01 GMT
Meanwhile, whilst we disappear up our own ass concerned about the pratts in the Tory Party, the big boys are getting on with it. We wont be part of this, as it stands. EU seals deal to boost U.S. beef imports: sources flip.it/3XPzPdkey take aways
The EU is currently in free-trade negotiations with Australia and with South America's Mercosur trade bloc, of which Argentina and Uruguay are members
Europe is also offering to start negotiations on a trade deal with the United States to remove import duties on industrial goods
The trade talks are part of an agreement struck last year between Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump, under which the United States agreed not to impose punitive tariffs on EU car imports while the two sides sought to improve transatlantic trade ties.
Earlier on in this thread, whenever I mentioned beef coming into the UK from places like Australia and Argentina you were all up in arms complaining that the poor UK farmer will be hit. Now you are all moaning that the EU will get the cheap beef, and the poor ole UK will miss out (which by the way is totally wrong). Make your minds up.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 14, 2019 8:30:50 GMT
key take aways
The EU is currently in free-trade negotiations with Australia and with South America's Mercosur trade bloc, of which Argentina and Uruguay are members
Europe is also offering to start negotiations on a trade deal with the United States to remove import duties on industrial goods
The trade talks are part of an agreement struck last year between Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump, under which the United States agreed not to impose punitive tariffs on EU car imports while the two sides sought to improve transatlantic trade ties.
Earlier on in this thread, whenever I mentioned beef coming into the UK from places like Australia and Argentina you were all up in arms complaining that the poor UK farmer will be hit. Now you are all moaning that the EU will get the cheap beef, and the poor ole UK will miss out (which by the way is totally wrong). Make your minds up. Lamb, Nobby, Lamb
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 8:58:58 GMT
Earlier on in this thread, whenever I mentioned beef coming into the UK from places like Australia and Argentina you were all up in arms complaining that the poor UK farmer will be hit. Now you are all moaning that the EU will get the cheap beef, and the poor ole UK will miss out (which by the way is totally wrong). Make your minds up. Lamb, Nobby, Lamb Lamb was mentioned, and so was Beef because the discussion at that time centered around the Irish Economy and how it will bomb in the event of a No deal. Why the change of opinion from you all?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 8:59:49 GMT
"LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s government is in “pretty good shape” if it needs to leave the European Union without a transition deal on Oct. 31, Cabinet Secretary Mark Sedwill, the country’s top civil servant, said on Thursday." Reuters
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 9:10:56 GMT
Meanwhile, whilst we disappear up our own ass concerned about the pratts in the Tory Party, the big boys are getting on with it. We wont be part of this, as it stands. EU seals deal to boost U.S. beef imports: sources flip.it/3XPzPdkey take aways
The EU is currently in free-trade negotiations with Australia and with South America's Mercosur trade bloc, of which Argentina and Uruguay are members
Europe is also offering to start negotiations on a trade deal with the United States to remove import duties on industrial goods
The trade talks are part of an agreement struck last year between Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker and U.S. President Donald Trump, under which the United States agreed not to impose punitive tariffs on EU car imports while the two sides sought to improve transatlantic trade ties.
Shame it morphed from a trading group into a power mad organisation stretching into other areas of our lives then? There would never have been a referendum if it had stayed as it was intended and what the UK initially voted for in the early seventies.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 14, 2019 9:14:08 GMT
Lamb was mentioned, and so was Beef because the discussion at that time centered around the Irish Economy and how it will bomb in the event of a No deal. Why the change of opinion from you all? Did you read it Nobby.
My understanding was that the US are getting a larger share of the beef quota coming in, not that the beef quota from outside the EU is increasing
It also goes on to mention the new trade deals the EU are working on including the US (Which we will no longer be a part off)
If we end up with No Deal, surely all the things we said before still apply, due to the reduction in tariffs for goods in and the increase on goods out
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 9:49:40 GMT
Lamb was mentioned, and so was Beef because the discussion at that time centered around the Irish Economy and how it will bomb in the event of a No deal. Why the change of opinion from you all? Did you read it Nobby.
My understanding was that the US are getting a larger share of the beef quota coming in, not that the beef quota from outside the EU is increasing
It also goes on to mention the new trade deals the EU are working on including the US (Which we will no longer be a part off)
If we end up with No Deal, surely all the things we said before still apply, due to the reduction in tariffs for goods in and the increase on goods out
Subtle nuances Simon. Come on Nobby, read what it says.
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