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Post by peterparker on Aug 8, 2020 6:49:03 GMT
Indeed. I was reading that Japan wanted to push the deal on and get it sorted, although it was suggested they were saying the deal cannot be as good as the EU one by its very nature of being smaller. Will be interesting to see what the comparisons are and how it ties in with any possible deal we do with the EU as that could be significant especially in regard to cars and car parts
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 7:27:03 GMT
Indeed. I was reading that Japan wanted to push the deal on and get it sorted, although it was suggested they were saying the deal cannot be as good as the EU one by its very nature of being smaller. Will be interesting to see what the comparisons are and how it ties in with any possible deal we do with the EU as that could be significant especially in regard to cars and car parts Indeed Will be the first time we can do a like for like comparison of trade treaties. Should be interesting.
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 8, 2020 10:45:12 GMT
William Do you ever get tired of pseudo 6th form jokes, without ever, perhaps not once, making a contribution to a debate? Or is that the limit of your capacity? "Who the f*ck is this bloke talking to?" That`s debate, is it? You sound like Donald Trump, on one of his more petulant days. You`ve gone from calling a forum member a prick, to calling him a c*unt. That`s debate, is it? You`ve used insulting language and childish name calling towards said forum member, over his stature. That`s debate, is it? Look to your own defences.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 10:55:21 GMT
William Do you ever get tired of pseudo 6th form jokes, without ever, perhaps not once, making a contribution to a debate? Or is that the limit of your capacity? "Who the f*ck is this bloke talking to?" That`s debate, is it? You sound like Donald Trump, on one of his more petulant days. You`ve gone from calling a forum member a prick, to calling him a c*unt. That`s debate, is it? You`ve used insulting language and childish name calling towards said forum member, over his stature. That`s debate, is it? Look to your own defences. True, allowed him to get under my skin..again. Stupid of me.
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 8, 2020 10:57:03 GMT
He's decided for some reason that it advances his argument to insult me on the basis of height. Aren't the left lovely people. I honestly don't mind, for 2 reasons, offence is taken not given, but more important than that, it sits there and demonstrates his actual character. Anyway, make yourself comfortable, he's about to tell everybody how I've ''tried to get around import costs on bringing in cars''. This could be a lot of fun. What a pleasant chap. Do the left still portray themselves as the nicer, more caring, more tolerant side of the political divide? I wonder where the line gets drawn? Someone’s height ok? Someone’s body weight ok? Someone’s disability ok? Someone’s gender ok? Someone’s religion ok? Someone’s colour ok? I guess if it’s aimed at someone of a different political viewpoint any of these are fair game? Shame Warwick Davis doesn`t post on here. Imagine the fun, a certain poster could have then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 12:48:11 GMT
"Who the f*ck is this bloke talking to?" That`s debate, is it? You sound like Donald Trump, on one of his more petulant days. You`ve gone from calling a forum member a prick, to calling him a c*unt. That`s debate, is it? You`ve used insulting language and childish name calling towards said forum member, over his stature. That`s debate, is it? Look to your own defences. True, allowed him to get under my skin..again. Stupid of me. OK, so now that the heat has gone out of last night's exchanges, will you please take a couple of minutes to read my detailed reply which was intended to clear up what appeared to be confusion around the difference between import duty and the SVA scheme and just give a brief reply confirming that there was misunderstanding and that you are happy to retract any suggesting that I may have sought to have 'got around' any import duty? I'm sure you understand why that's important to me. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 13:04:22 GMT
True, allowed him to get under my skin..again. Stupid of me. OK, so now that the heat has gone out of last night's exchanges, will you please take a couple of minutes to read my detailed reply which was intended to clear up what appeared to be confusion around the difference between import duty and the SVA scheme and just give a brief reply confirming that there was misunderstanding and that you are happy to retract any suggesting that I may have sought to have 'got around' any import duty? I'm sure you understand why that's important to me. Thanks. Poorly worded on my part and absolutely did not intend to say you had not paid import duties. The intent was to highlight your objection to SVA.
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2020 13:05:51 GMT
How about, we take the weekend off?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 13:26:56 GMT
How about, we take the weekend off? Defo from me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 13:39:05 GMT
OK, so now that the heat has gone out of last night's exchanges, will you please take a couple of minutes to read my detailed reply which was intended to clear up what appeared to be confusion around the difference between import duty and the SVA scheme and just give a brief reply confirming that there was misunderstanding and that you are happy to retract any suggesting that I may have sought to have 'got around' any import duty? I'm sure you understand why that's important to me. Thanks. Poorly worded on my part and absolutely did not intend to say you had not paid import duties. The intent was to highlight your objection to SVA. Thank you. I'm sure that you would also be a bit upset if you felt that somebody was suggesting that you were attempting to avoid paying taxes correctly. For what it's worth, I've never attempted to 'get around' that scheme either, it's just that for the reasons we discussed at length previously, I just stopped importing vehicles that required testing. But whatever, I've moved on, I only brought it up as you asked several times for an EU policy that had a direct negative impact on someone, so I gave that as an example, other than that I wouldn't have mentioned it originally.
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2020 14:35:32 GMT
Poorly worded on my part and absolutely did not intend to say you had not paid import duties. The intent was to highlight your objection to SVA. Thank you. I'm sure that you would also be a bit upset if you felt that somebody was suggesting that you were attempting to avoid paying taxes correctly. For what it's worth, I've never attempted to 'get around' that scheme either, it's just that for the reasons we discussed at length previously, I just stopped importing vehicles that required testing. But whatever, I've moved on, I only brought it up as you asked several times for an EU policy that had a direct negative impact on someone, so I gave that as an example, other than that I wouldn't have mentioned it originally.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 14:53:46 GMT
Thank you. I'm sure that you would also be a bit upset if you felt that somebody was suggesting that you were attempting to avoid paying taxes correctly. For what it's worth, I've never attempted to 'get around' that scheme either, it's just that for the reasons we discussed at length previously, I just stopped importing vehicles that required testing. But whatever, I've moved on, I only brought it up as you asked several times for an EU policy that had a direct negative impact on someone, so I gave that as an example, other than that I wouldn't have mentioned it originally. If you only knew how ironic that was. You've sent it to the wrong person on this thread, cravat and pocket set indeed
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Post by peterparker on Aug 8, 2020 16:50:24 GMT
Rather interesting to note Priti Patel says the French arent doing enough to protect our border.
We are taking back control though so...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 17:00:46 GMT
Rather interesting to note Priti Patel says the French arent doing enough to protect our border. We are taking back control though so... Take this up with France. We have an arrangement, for which we are providing funds, they are ignoring the terms of the agreement and escorting vessels out of their waters into ours. Unlike the French, we aren't just chasing people into foreign waters, we are picking the people up and processing them, as normal civilised countries do. What would you like us to do to demonstrate control of our borders, chase those people back and forth in their inflatables until there's the inevitable tragedy, would you be happy then? Thanks France. At least we've stopped calling them refugees. Again, the question sits there, why would these people pass through a minimum of 2 safe countries and then try to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world to get here if this was a racist and institutionally racist society where opportunity is denied on the basis of skin colour? Surely it would be much nicer to stay in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 8:42:25 GMT
Rather interesting to note Priti Patel says the French arent doing enough to protect our border. We are taking back control though so... Take this up with France. We have an arrangement, for which we are providing funds, they are ignoring the terms of the agreement and escorting vessels out of their waters into ours. Unlike the French, we aren't just chasing people into foreign waters, we are picking the people up and processing them, as normal civilised countries do. What would you like us to do to demonstrate control of our borders, chase those people back and forth in their inflatables until there's the inevitable tragedy, would you be happy then? Thanks France. At least we've stopped calling them refugees. Again, the question sits there, why would these people pass through a minimum of 2 safe countries and then try to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world to get here if this was a racist and institutionally racist society where opportunity is denied on the basis of skin colour? Surely it would be much nicer to stay in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal? They heard that all lives matter here, so are arriving & waiting to be welcomed with open arms.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 10, 2020 8:56:05 GMT
Rather interesting to note Priti Patel says the French arent doing enough to protect our border. We are taking back control though so... Take this up with France. We have an arrangement, for which we are providing funds, they are ignoring the terms of the agreement and escorting vessels out of their waters into ours. Unlike the French, we aren't just chasing people into foreign waters, we are picking the people up and processing them, as normal civilised countries do. What would you like us to do to demonstrate control of our borders, chase those people back and forth in their inflatables until there's the inevitable tragedy, would you be happy then? Thanks France. At least we've stopped calling them refugees. Again, the question sits there, why would these people pass through a minimum of 2 safe countries and then try to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world to get here if this was a racist and institutionally racist society where opportunity is denied on the basis of skin colour? Surely it would be much nicer to stay in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal? listening to someone on Ferrari's show this morning who has a charity to help some of these people when they get here, and as she pointed out, many have English as a 2nd language. It makes sense for them to try and come here than seek asylum in France/Germany wherever As someone else also said France ta significant higer number of refugees we do. 'We' focus on Calais and those trying to get here, but France is a large country and many people seek refuge in other areas of France
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 9:13:38 GMT
Take this up with France. We have an arrangement, for which we are providing funds, they are ignoring the terms of the agreement and escorting vessels out of their waters into ours. Unlike the French, we aren't just chasing people into foreign waters, we are picking the people up and processing them, as normal civilised countries do. What would you like us to do to demonstrate control of our borders, chase those people back and forth in their inflatables until there's the inevitable tragedy, would you be happy then? Thanks France. At least we've stopped calling them refugees. Again, the question sits there, why would these people pass through a minimum of 2 safe countries and then try to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world to get here if this was a racist and institutionally racist society where opportunity is denied on the basis of skin colour? Surely it would be much nicer to stay in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal? listening to someone on Ferrari's show this morning who has a charity to help some of these people when they get here, and as she pointed out, many have English as a 2nd language. It makes sense for them to try and come here than seek asylum in France/Germany wherever As someone else also said France ta significant higer number of refugees we do. 'We' focus on Calais and those trying to get here, but France is a large country and many people seek refuge in other areas of France Seems it's entirely legal for refugees to pass through other countries and seek asylum in the UK. Think there are something like 15,000 Syrian refugees in the UK, the UK killed off 65,000 people with Corona so we appear to have room for a few more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 10:17:16 GMT
Take this up with France. We have an arrangement, for which we are providing funds, they are ignoring the terms of the agreement and escorting vessels out of their waters into ours. Unlike the French, we aren't just chasing people into foreign waters, we are picking the people up and processing them, as normal civilised countries do. What would you like us to do to demonstrate control of our borders, chase those people back and forth in their inflatables until there's the inevitable tragedy, would you be happy then? Thanks France. At least we've stopped calling them refugees. Again, the question sits there, why would these people pass through a minimum of 2 safe countries and then try to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world to get here if this was a racist and institutionally racist society where opportunity is denied on the basis of skin colour? Surely it would be much nicer to stay in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal? listening to someone on Ferrari's show this morning who has a charity to help some of these people when they get here, and as she pointed out, many have English as a 2nd language. It makes sense for them to try and come here than seek asylum in France/Germany wherever As someone else also said France ta significant higer number of refugees we do. 'We' focus on Calais and those trying to get here, but France is a large country and many people seek refuge in other areas of France I'm not focusing on France, I'm focusing on the French Navy ushering vessels out of their waters and in to ours, but only because you brought the subject up. More than half of the world's population are bilingual. Around half of French people speak English.
Around 10% of Africans already speak French.
That's before we even look at Spanish, Italian, German, Portuguese.
If I were a genuine refugee then learning another language would be a small price to pay to keep myself and my family safe.
Haven't looked in detail, but a quick search finds 768,000 immigrants are here who speak no English at all or speak English poorly. It seems that around 140,000 of those have no English whatsoever.
www.nhs.uk/accessibility/health-information-in-other-languages/ Why would this be needed if every immigrant arrived speaking like Rees-Mogg?
For me, someone speaking a different language isn't an issue per-se, but it must restrict employment opportunities? I'm only giving the above info as you brought the point up.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 10, 2020 10:23:05 GMT
listening to someone on Ferrari's show this morning who has a charity to help some of these people when they get here, and as she pointed out, many have English as a 2nd language. It makes sense for them to try and come here than seek asylum in France/Germany wherever As someone else also said France ta significant higer number of refugees we do. 'We' focus on Calais and those trying to get here, but France is a large country and many people seek refuge in other areas of France I'm not focusing on France, I'm focusing on the French Navy ushering vessels out of their waters and in to ours, but only because you brought the subject up. More than half of the world's population are bilingual. Around half of French people speak English.
Around 10% of Africans already speak French.
That's before we even look at Spanish, Italian, German, Portuguese.
If I were a genuine refugee then learning another language would be a small price to pay to keep myself and my family safe.
Haven't looked in detail, but a quick search finds 768,000 immigrants are here who speak no English at all or speak English poorly. It seems that around 140,000 of those have no English whatsoever.
www.nhs.uk/accessibility/health-information-in-other-languages/ Why would this be needed if every immigrant arrived speaking like Rees-Mogg?
For me, someone speaking a different language isn't an issue per-se, but it must restrict employment opportunities? I'm only giving the above info as you brought the point up.
The point is, (and we need to go back to the start here) Why are these people risking their lives to come here and what should be done about it? If you ae one of those people that believe that we shack this people up in posh hotels and chuck out hand outs to them left right and centre, than surely the solutions lie within our system and making it more difficult and discouraging people to risk their lives to come here in the first place rather than turning them around
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 10, 2020 10:43:31 GMT
I'm not focusing on France, I'm focusing on the French Navy ushering vessels out of their waters and in to ours, but only because you brought the subject up. More than half of the world's population are bilingual. Around half of French people speak English.
Around 10% of Africans already speak French.
That's before we even look at Spanish, Italian, German, Portuguese.
If I were a genuine refugee then learning another language would be a small price to pay to keep myself and my family safe.
Haven't looked in detail, but a quick search finds 768,000 immigrants are here who speak no English at all or speak English poorly. It seems that around 140,000 of those have no English whatsoever.
www.nhs.uk/accessibility/health-information-in-other-languages/ Why would this be needed if every immigrant arrived speaking like Rees-Mogg?
For me, someone speaking a different language isn't an issue per-se, but it must restrict employment opportunities? I'm only giving the above info as you brought the point up.
The point is, (and we need to go back to the start here) Why are these people risking their lives to come here and what should be done about it? If you ae one of those people that believe that we shack this people up in posh hotels and chuck out hand outs to them left right and centre, than surely the solutions lie within our system and making it more difficult and discouraging people to risk their lives to come here in the first place rather than turning them around Sounds like the government agrees. This from Sky news website : "Immigration minister Chris Philp will head to Paris on Tuesday to hold talks with his French counterparts on the issue. Speaking ahead of the trip, Mr Philp said the UK government wants to make the route across the Channel "completely unviable" so migrants "have no incentive to come to northern France or attempt the crossing in the first place". He added: "We intend to return as many migrants who have arrived as possible."
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