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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 4, 2018 19:27:22 GMT
I am not completely against bringing Bakayoko in he has potential and is very different to what we have, could become very useful after about six months of coaching from Marcus. However we need a fourth striker one that would be close to the top of the managers list. I would have thought Cole would be the ideal choice given that he is considerably cheaper than say Doidge. The club needs a complete change of attitude at the highest level regarding strikers, if Cole is still available the club needs to go out and get him. The club appears to have spent plenty of money on administration and very little on purchasing strikers As for today a 21 goal striker starts on the bench and a 1 goal striker starts on the field - I hope this never happens again. Reilly scored 21 goals in a league one below where Clarkson scored 7 or 8 in consecutive games after he left us, not 21 goals in a similar league to Nichols. Anyway back to the OP as ever we'll support who ever wares the quarters next week at the Mem, the issue is where the hell as the £800K+ gone from Harrison's & Gaffney's deals to pay off debts? If so, how can evolution ever work if all we do when we sell our best players is to use the money to pay off debts, rather than reinvest it new players.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2018 19:29:34 GMT
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Post by 84gas on Aug 4, 2018 19:31:10 GMT
U can almost get away with a number 9 lump type who doesn’t score alot. The problem is we don’t have a good number 10 to take his chances either! I feel like Bennett could do that role. Lets hope so Fargas my friend
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Post by pirate on Aug 4, 2018 19:39:38 GMT
I am not completely against bringing Bakayoko in he has potential and is very different to what we have, could become very useful after about six months of coaching from Marcus. However we need a fourth striker one that would be close to the top of the managers list. I would have thought Cole would be the ideal choice given that he is considerably cheaper than say Doidge. The club needs a complete change of attitude at the highest level regarding strikers, if Cole is still available the club needs to go out and get him. The club appears to have spent plenty of money on administration and very little on purchasing strikers As for today a 21 goal striker starts on the bench and a 1 goal striker starts on the field - I hope this never happens again. Reilly scored 21 goals in a league one below where Clarkson scored 7 or 8 in consecutive games after he left us, not 21 goals in a similar league to Nichols. Where has the 21 goals figure come from? He scored 11 goals in the league last season.
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Post by axegas on Aug 4, 2018 19:41:35 GMT
Reilly scored 21 goals in a league one below where Clarkson scored 7 or 8 in consecutive games after he left us, not 21 goals in a similar league to Nichols. Where has the 21 goals figure come from? He scored 11 goals in the league last season. He’s referencing goals scored in all competitions although I believe the figure is inflated by goals scored against extremely poor lower league opposition in the Scottish league cup.
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Post by pirate on Aug 4, 2018 19:49:50 GMT
So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player? We invested the Taylor money in Sercombe and Nichols. Whilst the Nichols transfer hasn’t worked out, Signing Sercs for 150k more than makes up for it, what a steal that was. We will never spend over £750,000 on a player but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect that we reinvest £400,000 of the Harrison money on a new striker. Spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 20:01:02 GMT
I am not completely against bringing Bakayoko in he has potential and is very different to what we have, could become very useful after about six months of coaching from Marcus. However we need a fourth striker one that would be close to the top of the managers list. I would have thought Cole would be the ideal choice given that he is considerably cheaper than say Doidge. The club needs a complete change of attitude at the highest level regarding strikers, if Cole is still available the club needs to go out and get him. The club appears to have spent plenty of money on administration and very little on purchasing strikers As for today a 21 goal striker starts on the bench and a 1 goal striker starts on the field - I hope this never happens again. Reilly scored 21 goals in a league one below where Clarkson scored 7 or 8 in consecutive games after he left us, not 21 goals in a similar league to Nichols. Anyway back to the OP as ever we'll support who ever wares the quarters next week at the Mem, the issue is where the hell as the £800K+ gone from Harrison's & Gaffney's deals to pay off debts? If so, how can evolution ever work if all we do when we sell our best players is to use the money to pay off debts, rather than reinvest it new players. It's a really good question. We should be using some of it to reinvest in new players and it seems that we're doing exactly that in Bakayoko. But there has to be a limit. We can't afford to ignore debt and running the club any more than we can afford not to invest in new players from time to time. There has to be a balance. Evolution, by definition, will take a long time. Too long for many of us it seems. It is also intrinsically linked to a new stadium with the potential to make money from that. Presumably, the UWE wasn't going to do that. Whatever, until a new stadium is built (or the Mem redeveloped properly), we will continue to cut our cloth in this way out of necessity.
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Post by aghast on Aug 4, 2018 20:08:12 GMT
Oh well, at least there's an easy song for him.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 4, 2018 20:16:23 GMT
Because of how underwhelming it is, he'll probably turn out to be a decent signing.
I was way more excited for Jamie White than I was Matty Taylor. Would have took Dawson over Bodin and was excited for Nichols and wanted us to get rid of Ellis!
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Post by socrates on Aug 4, 2018 20:19:14 GMT
Talk about scraping the barrel. Maybe but just because he averaged 1 in 10 for them doesn’t mean he’ll do that for us. To be honest if we sign him and he only scores 4 goals but we win games and our midfielders score loads then he’ll be a good signing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 20:21:00 GMT
Because of how underwhelming it is, he'll probably turn out to be a decent signing. I was way more excited for Jamie White than I was Matty Taylor. Would have took Dawson over Bodin and was excited for Nichols and wanted us to get rid of Ellis! I said Rickie Lambert would never make it in League One! Guess these examples are why we should let the experts such as DC just get on with their jobs!
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Post by pirate on Aug 4, 2018 20:25:05 GMT
Talk about scraping the barrel. Maybe but just because he averaged 1 in 10 for them doesn’t mean he’ll do that for us. To be honest if we sign him and he only scores 4 goals but we win games and our midfielders score loads then he’ll be a good signing. We had a midfielder in Sercombe that scored a good amount of goals last season. Signing a player that isn't particularly good at heading for his size or holding the ball up isn't likely to help the midfielders score more.
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Post by socrates on Aug 4, 2018 20:26:09 GMT
Jeez! That's a bit harsh on Gaffney, think he played a real key part in our return to league 1. Even in league 1 he worked hard and created space for others, calling him a 'stinker' in terms of signings is very harsh. Gaffers on score sheet today for Salford. Gafney was brilliant for us and only ever struggled for us once Nichols arrived and he was pushed out of the starting line up. Scored 6 times as many goals as Nichols last season in a fraction of the time. He didn’t impress as an impact sub last season but shouldn’t have been used as one anyway. Felt really sorry for the bloke and don’t blame him for wanting to leave and good luck to the bloke I hope he does really well he’s a very passionate player who always gives his all and we’ve let him go and kept the complete opposite. You couldn’t make it up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 20:31:28 GMT
Gaffers on score sheet today for Salford. Gafney was brilliant for us and only ever struggled for us once Nichols arrived and he was pushed out of the starting line up. Scored 6 times as many goals as Nichols last season in a fraction of the time. He didn’t impress as an impact sub last season but shouldn’t have been used as one anyway. Felt really sorry for the bloke and don’t blame him for wanting to leave and good luck to the bloke I hope he does really well he’s a very passionate player who always gives his all and we’ve let him go and kept the complete opposite. You couldn’t make it up. Agreed. Gaffney's impact at this club seems to be have been forgotten or at best downplayed. I think he also suffered from Ellis' upturn in form. Not sure we "let him go" as much as him wanting the move though.
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Post by socrates on Aug 4, 2018 20:33:44 GMT
Gafney was brilliant for us and only ever struggled for us once Nichols arrived and he was pushed out of the starting line up. Scored 6 times as many goals as Nichols last season in a fraction of the time. He didn’t impress as an impact sub last season but shouldn’t have been used as one anyway. Felt really sorry for the bloke and don’t blame him for wanting to leave and good luck to the bloke I hope he does really well he’s a very passionate player who always gives his all and we’ve let him go and kept the complete opposite. You couldn’t make it up. Agreed. Gaffney's impact at this club seems to be have been forgotten or at best downplayed. I think he also suffered from Ellis' upturn in form. Not sure we "let him go" as much as him wanting the move though. I think the biggest hit to Rory was losing Taylor. They were immense together but Rory could have done a good job last season and thus coming one if he’d been given a real chance
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 20:33:55 GMT
Maybe but just because he averaged 1 in 10 for them doesn’t mean he’ll do that for us. To be honest if we sign him and he only scores 4 goals but we win games and our midfielders score loads then he’ll be a good signing. We had a midfielder in Sercombe that scored a good amount of goals last season. Signing a player that isn't particularly good at heading for his size or holding the ball up isn't likely to help the midfielders score more. Or, we could give the guy a chance.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2018 20:43:09 GMT
Bakayoko was the guy who Slocombe brought down and got sent off, leading to Andre's fantastic debut. Game was 1-1 at the time and we ended up winning with a last minute winner from Ollie Clarke.
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Post by aforce on Aug 4, 2018 20:49:45 GMT
I think we should give this bakayoko a chance and I’m fully behind him but am I the only one that is concerned more about our number 10 where the goals are gonna come from as I can tell you now Nichols won’t get 5 goals this season
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Post by 84gas on Aug 4, 2018 20:56:50 GMT
Gafney was brilliant for us and only ever struggled for us once Nichols arrived and he was pushed out of the starting line up. Scored 6 times as many goals as Nichols last season in a fraction of the time. He didn’t impress as an impact sub last season but shouldn’t have been used as one anyway. Felt really sorry for the bloke and don’t blame him for wanting to leave and good luck to the bloke I hope he does really well he’s a very passionate player who always gives his all and we’ve let him go and kept the complete opposite. You couldn’t make it up. Agreed. Gaffney's impact at this club seems to be have been forgotten or at best downplayed. I think he also suffered from Ellis' upturn in form. Not sure we "let him go" as much as him wanting the move though. DC practically said he couldn’t say no to non league salfords financial offer. Thats all part of my frustration with look out for new striker. None of us were necessarily expecting Ellis to leave so if u get that unplanned, un budgeted fee (atound 750k), you surely spend atleast half?! but not if it goes straight into the owners pockets it seems.
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Post by tylerdunnell03 on Aug 4, 2018 21:05:35 GMT
Need to go in for Cole. Not even in the squad for wigan and clearly surplus to requirements there. Will be a loan though probably.
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