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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 4, 2018 21:35:57 GMT
Just Like Sir Ricky when he arrived Absolute nonsense. He was signed off the back of a 22 goal and 15 assist season. Anyone with any football knowledge could see Lambert’s class from day one. His touch and vision was above anything I had seen. He just needed to get sharp. Once he did, there was no looking back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 21:37:48 GMT
Good comment - what's not to like. 9 goals in 91 games? Poor in the air?? Struggles to hold the ball up very well??? You and the other scout poster told us bennett was rubbish so you might just be wrong again with the walsall lad?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 4, 2018 21:37:55 GMT
We invested the Taylor money in Sercombe and Nichols. Whilst the Nichols transfer hasn’t worked out, Signing Sercs for 150k more than makes up for it, what a steal that was. We will never spend over £750,000 on a player but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect that we reinvest £400,000 of the Harrison money on a new striker. A £400k player would potentially upset our wage structure, so it isn't as easy as a lot of people think. Why would it upset our pay structure? If I was say Lines and I had the option of playing alongside Nichols on £2K per week or Coles on £3K per week I'd know who I'd choose! Anyway just give the newcomer a big signing on fee and stick to the £2K per week if need be. The truth is the ALQ's want £500K or so back from the transfer fees it's nothing to do with wage structures etc.
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Post by xplosivgas on Aug 4, 2018 21:55:00 GMT
We may be light up front, but at least we can take heart in the fact we have a killer admin team and with out them you would have no club to support Dont tell me, you're an administrator? So for a club our size, you don't think we have too many pen pushers and too few goal scorers?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 21:56:55 GMT
A £400k player would potentially upset our wage structure, so it isn't as easy as a lot of people think. Why would it upset our pay structure? If I was say Lines and I had the option of playing alongside Nichols on £2K per week or Coles on £3K per week I'd know who I'd choose! Anyway just give the newcomer a big signing on fee and stick to the £2K per week if need be. The truth is the ALQ's want £500K or so back from the transfer fees it's nothing to do with wage structures etc. Until the goals dry up from your big money, big wages signing. That's when you get disharmony in the ranks, removing at a stroke one if the biggest reasons we've come so far so quickly.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 4, 2018 22:12:03 GMT
and with out them you would have no club to support Dont tell me, you're an administrator? So for a club our size, you don't think we have too many pen pushers and too few goal scorers? We have plenty of goal scorers, just getting the ball to them is the problem, still people Love Lines so nothing will change.. Just look at our Red friends and see how many "backroom" staff they have and look how much their debt has reduced. A good backroom staff, and we have one, will make a packet for our club. Just look at the main shirt sponsor deal...
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 4, 2018 22:20:10 GMT
Absolutely right. 9 goals in 93 games. But it’s not just about looking at previous goal records when signing a player? You look at what attributes they will bring to the team and their age, height ect. Some players thrive in the right environment, take Jack Marriott for example. Oi stop trying to fool the forum with your science & modern tomfoolery. You'll be looking at assists, km ran, fitness, lifestyle, and character next. He's a wizard I tell thee.
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 4, 2018 22:25:20 GMT
I wonder what forum fans would of made of signing Devon White back in the day ? And we didn't even have the word omni-shambles in those days, or clusterfuck 😮😂
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Post by socrates on Aug 4, 2018 22:25:27 GMT
you telling me you’d rather have Nichols than any of the above? I’d rather have most of them Than Nichols but that doesn’t mean Nichols is the answer or that they are.
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 4, 2018 22:30:25 GMT
Lambert after we sold Agogo. So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player? I know Andy tillson a bit and he's amazed he's still our record signing. Over 25 years later.
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Post by pirate on Aug 4, 2018 22:34:24 GMT
So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player? I know Andy tillson a bit and he's amazed he's still our record signing. Over 25 years later. No chance of that changing anytime soon.
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Post by james246 on Aug 4, 2018 22:37:31 GMT
I am not completely against bringing Bakayoko in he has potential and is very different to what we have, could become very useful after about six months of coaching from Marcus. However we need a fourth striker one that would be close to the top of the managers list. I would have thought Cole would be the ideal choice given that he is considerably cheaper than say Doidge. The club needs a complete change of attitude at the highest level regarding strikers, if Cole is still available the club needs to go out and get him. The club appears to have spent plenty of money on administration and very little on purchasing strikers As for today a 21 goal striker starts on the bench and a 1 goal striker starts on the field - I hope this never happens again. Reilly scored 21 goals in a league one below where Clarkson scored 7 or 8 in consecutive games after he left us, not 21 goals in a similar league to Nichols. Anyway back to the OP as ever we'll support who ever wares the quarters next week at the Mem, the issue is where the hell as the £800K+ gone from Harrison's & Gaffney's deals to pay off debts? If so, how can evolution ever work if all we do when we sell our best players is to use the money to pay off debts, rather than reinvest it new players.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 4, 2018 22:39:20 GMT
I know Andy tillson a bit and he's amazed he's still our record signing. Over 25 years later. No chance of that changing anytime soon. Spending Money and success don't go hand in hand, just look at our red friends south of the river developing players to a better standard is the way to go and make the club more sustainable. I would argue that selling the likes of Taylor/Bodin/Harrison/Gaffers have made our club a lot more sustainable for the future
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Post by nailseagashead on Aug 4, 2018 22:46:36 GMT
No chance of that changing anytime soon. Spending Money and success don't go hand in hand, just look at our red friends south of the river developing players to a better standard is the way to go and make the club more sustainable. I would argue that selling the likes of Taylor/Bodin/Harrison/Gaffers have made our club a lot more sustainable for the future I know it was a while ago now infact around 9 years ago but it's funny to think that Lambert only cost £250K more than Ellis.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 4, 2018 22:48:41 GMT
Spending Money and success don't go hand in hand, just look at our red friends south of the river developing players to a better standard is the way to go and make the club more sustainable. I would argue that selling the likes of Taylor/Bodin/Harrison/Gaffers have made our club a lot more sustainable for the future I know it was a while ago now infact around 9 years ago but it's funny to think that Lambert only cost £250K more than Ellis. and we all know who the better player is. Ellis has had one maybe two GOOD seasons so far, Sir Ricky had a fantastic time in the game
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 4, 2018 22:49:58 GMT
A £400k player would potentially upset our wage structure, so it isn't as easy as a lot of people think. Why would it upset our pay structure? If I was say Lines and I had the option of playing alongside Nichols on £2K per week or Coles on £3K per week I'd know who I'd choose! Anyway just give the newcomer a big signing on fee and stick to the £2K per week if need be. The truth is the ALQ's want £500K or so back from the transfer fees it's nothing to do with wage structures etc. Can you back any of those figures up, or did you just pluck them out of the air to make your point?
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Post by james246 on Aug 4, 2018 22:52:16 GMT
Reilly scored 21 goals in a league one below where Clarkson scored 7 or 8 in consecutive games after he left us, not 21 goals in a similar league to Nichols. Anyway back to the OP as ever we'll support who ever wares the quarters next week at the Mem, the issue is where the hell as the £800K+ gone from Harrison's & Gaffney's deals to pay off debts? If so, how can evolution ever work if all we do when we sell our best players is to use the money to pay off debts, rather than reinvest it new players. Comparing Clarkson with Reilly is like comparing apples with oranges. Clarkson was a clever player but slow and had low energy and fitness. In 10 yard sprints (yes speed in the first 10 yards is important particularly for strikers) Reilly is the fastest player in the club, though when fully fit DL might be up there with him. Reilly has a one touch finish that Clarkson didn't show with much consistency. Still would like to see Coles join the club, since he could play with any of our strikers
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Post by pirate on Aug 4, 2018 22:57:47 GMT
No chance of that changing anytime soon. Spending Money and success don't go hand in hand, just look at our red friends south of the river developing players to a better standard is the way to go and make the club more sustainable. I would argue that selling the likes of Taylor/Bodin/Harrison/Gaffers have made our club a lot more sustainable for the future Spending money, within reason, on decent players obviously gives you a better chance. If you are talking about selling players on for a profit to make the club more sustainable then you have picked the wrong club with the sh** because they have bought Kodjia for £2.7mil and sold him for £12mil (rising to £15mil), Hordur Magnusson was signed for £1.9mil and sold for £2.5mil, Aden Flint cost 300k and sold for £7.2mil and Bobby Reid was developed through their academy and was sold on for £10.2mil.
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Post by pirate on Aug 4, 2018 22:58:37 GMT
Spending Money and success don't go hand in hand, just look at our red friends south of the river developing players to a better standard is the way to go and make the club more sustainable. I would argue that selling the likes of Taylor/Bodin/Harrison/Gaffers have made our club a lot more sustainable for the future I know it was a while ago now infact around 9 years ago but it's funny to think that Lambert only cost £250K more than Ellis. Eh?
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Post by nailseagashead on Aug 4, 2018 23:00:06 GMT
Comparing Clarkson with Reilly is like comparing apples with oranges. Clarkson was a clever player but slow and had low energy and fitness. In 10 yard sprints (yes speed in the first 10 yards is important particularly for strikers) Reilly is the fastest player in the club, though when fully fit DL might be up there with him. Reilly has a one touch finish that Clarkson didn't show with much consistency. Still would like to see Coles join the club, since he could play with any of our strikers Danny Coles? Make-shift striker?
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