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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 4, 2018 17:46:28 GMT
So to summarise our new signing who hasnt actually signed yet has been completely written off before playing a single minute based on his stats at his current club. This despite the fact they might play completely differently to how we would use him IF he signed. DC in his post match interview says he wants two 9s so assuming our new useless one signs he potentially could be a back up anyway. Is that about right ? No one is writing him off. What a lot of fans are saying is : How do we replace proven goalscorers like Bodin Matty Ellis who can score 15- 20 per season ?. Secondly: were is all the money gone ?. I think that is a fair democratic question to ask . I don't disagree the question is a fair one my point is that it's not the kid from Walsall's fault we aren't spending that money. I've seen comments such as scraping the bottom of the barrel etc which to my mind is exactly writing him off. Personally I think if he does sign he has all the attributes we're looking for. In an ideal world it would be him + a Toney/Cole type signing but fear that might not be the case.
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Post by xplosivgas on Aug 4, 2018 17:47:29 GMT
We may be light up front, but at least we can take heart in the fact we have a killer admin team
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 4, 2018 17:57:35 GMT
I can remember the comments from FGR fans regarding Taylor and the comments from Northampton fans, regarding Bodin.
He's still only 22 isn't he? As long as we bring in another number 9,I don't see the big problem.
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Post by wertongas on Aug 4, 2018 17:58:56 GMT
Bakayoko was Walsall's young player of the year a couple of seasons ago, his goal scoring record is not brilliant but he is only 22 a similar age to Telford and has a better scoring record that Telford. People were crying out for us to sign Telford yet are putting this player down before he has kicked a ball for us. I know he is a different type of player but a lot of clubs from this division and divisions above have been tracking him. We need to give him a good chance, it would be nice to sign a more experienced striker to play alongside/competition for him .
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 4, 2018 18:07:07 GMT
Talk about scraping the barrel. Well we are a 3 tier club that is over performing under DC
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 4, 2018 18:07:09 GMT
O.k fair enough that's the money from Gaff gone on a similar player for similar amount. How much of the £1 . 2 million from Bodin & Harrison going on the other number 9 ?. When you're a selling club, which we are and always have been, the maths don't work out like that in afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 18:17:30 GMT
I can remember the comments from FGR fans regarding Taylor and the comments from Northampton fans, regarding Bodin. He's still only 22 isn't he? As long as we bring in another number 9,I don't see the big problem. I remember the comments from Chester fans about Taylor, where he scored 6 in seven games or something like that. Myself i'll judge the lad when i've watched him in a few games. Hopefully we do bring in another number 9 too.
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Post by buktaboy on Aug 4, 2018 18:30:12 GMT
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Post by james246 on Aug 4, 2018 18:43:54 GMT
I am not completely against bringing Bakayoko in he has potential and is very different to what we have, could become very useful after about six months of coaching from Marcus. However we need a fourth striker one that would be close to the top of the managers list. I would have thought Cole would be the ideal choice given that he is considerably cheaper than say Doidge. The club needs a complete change of attitude at the highest level regarding strikers, if Cole is still available the club needs to go out and get him. The club appears to have spent plenty of money on administration and very little on purchasing strikers As for today a 21 goal striker starts on the bench and a 1 goal striker starts on the field - I hope this never happens again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 18:51:34 GMT
In the interests of balance, and despite the extracts posted on here, the Saddlers forum actually has a range of views on Bakayoko's likely departure. Some reflect what is recorded in this thread, but others note that he played on his own in a poor side and has potential to do well at another club. Many highlight the desire for a sell on clause, which suggests there is potential there.
I have no idea whether Bakayoko will be a success here or not. I am encouraged though by the fact that we have a management team who have a proven record of getting the best out of players that others had written off.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 4, 2018 19:04:49 GMT
How about we get behind him he hasn't even kicked a ball for us and people slaging him off. Look at bodin Taylor Harrison bang average players before DC managed them. I think you're missing the point. It's not about him. It's about the owners. Once again we have sold our best player, for circa a million. Drinks and season ticket prices are up. Yet we end up with a complete Poundland signing. When have we ever reinvested the money we get for players?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2018 19:08:49 GMT
I think you're missing the point. It's not about him. It's about the owners. Once again we have sold our best player, for circa a million. Drinks and season ticket prices are up. Yet we end up with a complete Poundland signing. When have we ever reinvested the money we get for players? Lambert after we sold Agogo.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 4, 2018 19:11:24 GMT
When have we ever reinvested the money we get for players? Lambert after we sold Agogo. So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2018 19:13:33 GMT
Lambert after we sold Agogo. So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player? I would like to see more ambition. Maybe our fans like yourself are happy with us being tinpot.
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Post by northsidegas on Aug 4, 2018 19:17:31 GMT
Good job some of you aren’t in Darrell Clarke’s shoes otherwise we would have 3 gold diggers that are past it but are well known players and the rest would be reserves because your spending 8k a week on um! Think of the bigger picture
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 4, 2018 19:17:57 GMT
So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player? I would like to see more ambition. Maybe our fans like yourself are happy with us being tinpot. Obviously not and I can't imagine there's one Rovers fan that wants to be tinpot. However I try to be realistic and not throw my toys out of the pram over everything. Losing Ellis was a big blow but now clubs know we've got money our bargaining position gets a lot harder than it would have been if Ellis was still here. This lad is 22 yet he's been completely written off by so many before he's even got here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 19:20:40 GMT
So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player? I would like to see more ambition. Maybe our fans like yourself are happy with us being tinpot. It's not about being tinpot. It's about having a club to support now and in future. It would be stupid to spend money we don't have due to the debt. Anyway, let's say we go down the ambition route. How do you suggest we find someone for say half a million or more that will be prepared to fit in with our wage structure? I'm taking it as read that you wouldn't pay one player considerably more than everyone else, given the unrest that could cause.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 4, 2018 19:20:44 GMT
Good job some of you aren’t in Darrell Clarke’s shoes otherwise we would have 3 gold diggers that are past it but are well known players and the rest would be reserves because your spending 8k a week on um! Think of the bigger picture Did I or anybody else say 3 players that were past it! No!
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Post by northsidegas on Aug 4, 2018 19:25:21 GMT
Good job some of you aren’t in Darrell Clarke’s shoes otherwise we would have 3 gold diggers that are past it but are well known players and the rest would be reserves because your spending 8k a week on um! Think of the bigger picture Did I or anybody else say 3 players that were past it! No! who said you did? What I am saying is you can’t right off a player because he isn’t a golden nugget signing he’s a Darrell Clarke sort of player a project people can’t slate him off or be disappointed before he’s even put on a shirt
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Post by axegas on Aug 4, 2018 19:27:05 GMT
Lambert after we sold Agogo. So ten years ago then. Imo we've done what most League 1&2 sides would do, sold a player for a tidy sum and then spent a bit of that bringing someone else in and the rest disappears in keeping the club afloat. Do people honestly expect us to go out and spend half a million on 1 player? We invested the Taylor money in Sercombe and Nichols. Whilst the Nichols transfer hasn’t worked out, Signing Sercs for 150k more than makes up for it, what a steal that was. We will never spend over £750,000 on a player but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect that we reinvest £400,000 of the Harrison money on a new striker.
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