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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2018 13:11:02 GMT
So if Accrington who survive on gates 75% of rovers can hold their nerve why can't rovers. If DC is tone be believed the first he heard of the Ipswich bid was 2 days before the transfer so either the club aren't telling the manager of bids the manager is not telling the truth or you are grasping at straws to defend the club. Another point that the club wanted the money was revealed by Ellis when he said ms persuaded him to sign for ipswich How does Accringtons gates come into this? It was the last day of the window? Ipswich wanted him and Accrington told him that to get him or miss out they have to pay so much. Ipswich had literally zero time to move on to their next target if they even had one and so struck up the deal. With Ellis they would have been able to say thanks but no thanks, we value him at 750K and that's the most we're prepared to pay, and could have moved on to other targets because there was weeks of the window left. It's not grasping at straws it's just a bit of common sense. The club can't force another club to bid more than they want for a player. Accy also only got a fee in the region of £1M, not £2M as you suggest. Forget your reasoning, some just don't get it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:12:07 GMT
It's frustrating, on paper. Unfortunately its "on paper" that all we know. Everything else is pure speculation.
Personally not happy over the number of times we have, as a club, sold players that were good enough to enable us to compete in the Championship.
That said, during those times, our back of house was nowhere near ready. Is that being addressed? It appears so, and with that lets see what Clarke does with this squad this season. If this descends into rank mediocrity I can see him leaving
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Post by lpgas on Aug 18, 2018 13:19:59 GMT
The problem as I see it is that we have too many players, most of which are mediocre. This applies to the midfield especially. Upson, is he any better than the players we already have? Not really.The Beard, for the last few seasons he has played half a season, and to be honest he has reached his level. Speaking of which I would also say Ollie Clarke, and Clarke, have also reached their level, although Nicholls should be in Div 2, because that is his level. DC has gone for quantity rather than quality, and he is also far too loyal to some players.
For me, if DC cannot get us in to the top 8 this season then he should go. We have been here for 2 years and we should be looking up. Every year without fail we have a bad start and go out of the FA Cup at the first possible opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:22:44 GMT
Or we can be like Accrington they knocked ipswich back 3 times until they got the deal they wanted they didn't grab at the first offer and close on 2m for a 2nd division player was a great deal unlike 750k for a 1st division player.which club got it right? Oh and by the way Accrington demanded the lot up front or no deal You got any idea whatsoever about the in's and out's of buying, selling players for a 1st Division Club? More than you have |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:24:27 GMT
So if Accrington who survive on gates 75% of rovers can hold their nerve why can't rovers. If DC is tone be believed the first he heard of the Ipswich bid was 2 days before the transfer so either the club aren't telling the manager of bids the manager is not telling the truth or you are grasping at straws to defend the club. Another point that the club wanted the money was revealed by Ellis when he said ms persuaded him to sign for ipswich An expert in Player dealings, right here. Here we go again when you can't fight your corner resort to insults |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:26:16 GMT
If we lose today then D.C. has massive questions to answer re selection! Very odd!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:26:33 GMT
So if Accrington who survive on gates 75% of rovers can hold their nerve why can't rovers. If DC is tone be believed the first he heard of the Ipswich bid was 2 days before the transfer so either the club aren't telling the manager of bids the manager is not telling the truth or you are grasping at straws to defend the club. Another point that the club wanted the money was revealed by Ellis when he said ms persuaded him to sign for ipswich How does Accringtons gates come into this? It was the last day of the window? Ipswich wanted him and Accrington told him that to get him or miss out they have to pay so much. Ipswich had literally zero time to move on to their next target if they even had one and so struck up the deal. With Ellis they would have been able to say thanks but no thanks, we value him at 750K and that's the most we're prepared to pay, and could have moved on to other targets because there was weeks of the window left. It's not grasping at straws it's just a bit of common sense. The club can't force another club to bid more than they want for a player. Accy also only got a fee in the region of £1M, not £2M as you suggest. So if they don't pay what you want then don't sell. If you go into a shop and offer way below what they price a commodity will they sell it to you or say no thanks |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:48:17 GMT
If we lose today then D.C. has massive questions to answer re selection! Very odd! edit sky was horribly wrong! |
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2018 13:48:38 GMT
You got any idea whatsoever about the in's and out's of buying, selling players for a 1st Division Club? More than you have Go on then, outline your experience of Player transfer negotiations for a 1st Division Football Club. |
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2018 13:49:39 GMT
An expert in Player dealings, right here. Here we go again when you can't fight your corner resort to insults Prove me wrong then. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:54:15 GMT
Here we go again when you can't fight your corner resort to insults Prove me wrong then. I don't need to but there again not at division 1 but a higher level but maybe it is different at basement level but I bet it isn't. never mind you keep your blinkers on |
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Post by corfugas on Aug 18, 2018 13:55:00 GMT
If we lose today then D.C. has massive questions to answer re selection! Very odd! Slight exaggeration! |
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2018 13:56:43 GMT
I don't need to but there again not at division 1 but a higher level but maybe it is different at basement level but I bet it isn't. never mind you keep your blinkers on What? You've dealt with Player transfers at a higher level than Div 1? I don't wear blinkers, maybe that's why I can see right through you. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 18, 2018 14:09:29 GMT
How does Accringtons gates come into this? It was the last day of the window? Ipswich wanted him and Accrington told him that to get him or miss out they have to pay so much. Ipswich had literally zero time to move on to their next target if they even had one and so struck up the deal. With Ellis they would have been able to say thanks but no thanks, we value him at 750K and that's the most we're prepared to pay, and could have moved on to other targets because there was weeks of the window left. It's not grasping at straws it's just a bit of common sense. The club can't force another club to bid more than they want for a player. Accy also only got a fee in the region of £1M, not £2M as you suggest. So if they don't pay what you want then don't sell. If you go into a shop and offer way below what they price a commodity will they sell it to you or say no thanks Then we would have probably lost Ellis on a free and you'd have been back on here when it happened complaining about how they the board and manager let it happen |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 14:23:49 GMT
If we lose today then D.C. has massive questions to answer re selection! Very odd! Slight exaggeration! Na sky messed the team up which angered me but was a load of rubbish! |
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Post by lincsblue on Aug 18, 2018 15:05:04 GMT
Fixed it for you  Very childish when someone is trying to make a positive contribution to the forum Says the man who has "DC Out" as his avatar |
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Post by baggins on Aug 18, 2018 15:31:12 GMT
I don't need to but there again not at division 1 but a higher level but maybe it is different at basement level but I bet it isn't. never mind you keep your blinkers on Still putting you're list of Div 1 deals together? Can't wait. |
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Post by socrates on Aug 18, 2018 16:22:45 GMT
The manager has to take the praise when we win too then.
UTG
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Aug 18, 2018 16:24:22 GMT
The manager has to take the praise when we win too then. UTG Nah, apparently its because they were a poor side who just got promoted... |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 18, 2018 16:27:17 GMT
The manager has to take the praise when we win too then. UTG Nah, apparently its because they were a poor side who just got promoted... Which is what we were 2 years ago when DC got us to 10th. But apparently his level is L2 |
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