|
Post by richard on Sept 10, 2018 22:52:39 GMT
Why is this necessary? It seems some people, and it’s always the same handful, are obsessed with Nichols and literally can’t post without a dig at him. It’s boring and embarrassing. It’s not just you but like I say, it’s the same handful of posters. He was nowhere near the worst player on that pitch yesterday. Because his continued inclusion in the team could cost us our league 1 place. Smith has a handful of bad games and people want him out of the side, no one says a word. Leadbitter is out of form and people slate him.... nothing. Nichols literally does nothing for 50+ games and I'm embarrassing?? Do me a favour. So if Nichols wasn't the worse player on the pitch, who was? And why is ok for you to single out someone and not me? If my opinion was that Nichols was worse than Leads for example, am I not allowed to say so in a thread discussing the match? It’s not about discussing players in match threads, it’s the obsession that some people have with him that every topic gets a dig at Nichols thrown in. I thought I’d made that fairly clear. I don’t rate some of our players but I don’t dig at them with every post. There was a bloke stood behind me on Saturday who kept on about Nichols touching his hair too much. I find it all really, really weird. It’s way beyond his lack of goals.
|
|
irene
Reserve Team
Posts: 382
|
Post by irene on Sept 11, 2018 5:49:38 GMT
All this criticism of Tom Nichols piling more and more pressure on the lad and making it less likely that he’ll come out of this rut he’s in.For Christ’s sake give it a rest
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Sept 11, 2018 6:23:37 GMT
All this criticism of Tom Nichols piling more and more pressure on the lad and making it less likely that he’ll come out of this rut he’s in.For Christ’s sake give it a rest I think our fans have actually been incredibly patient and supportive considering his performances and goal ratio.
|
|
Marshy
Proper Gas
Posts: 14,129
|
Post by Marshy on Sept 11, 2018 6:29:55 GMT
All this criticism of Tom Nichols piling more and more pressure on the lad and making it less likely that he’ll come out of this rut he’s in.For Christ’s sake give it a rest I think our fans have actually been incredibly patient and supportive considering his performances and goal ratio. Agreed, he was getting loads of stick at Peterborough and he had scored 13 goals that year! I’m still hoping/ praying that he comes good but my patience is beginning to run out.
|
|
irene
Reserve Team
Posts: 382
|
Post by irene on Sept 11, 2018 7:10:26 GMT
I agree for the most part but criticism in unrelated threads is really counterproductive
|
|
|
Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 11, 2018 7:15:40 GMT
I agree for the most part but criticism in unrelated threads is really counterproductive Yeah, I've stopped doing that since you raised it a couple of weeks ago but I will continue to have an opinion in the relevant thread such as this one.
|
|
|
Post by William Wilson on Sept 11, 2018 7:22:49 GMT
Because his continued inclusion in the team could cost us our league 1 place. Smith has a handful of bad games and people want him out of the side, no one says a word. Leadbitter is out of form and people slate him.... nothing. Nichols literally does nothing for 50+ games and I'm embarrassing?? Do me a favour. So if Nichols wasn't the worse player on the pitch, who was? And why is ok for you to single out someone and not me? If my opinion was that Nichols was worse than Leads for example, am I not allowed to say so in a thread discussing the match? There was a bloke stood behind me on Saturday who kept on about Nichols touching his hair too much. I find it all really, really weird. It’s way beyond his lack of goals. It`s exactly because of his lack of goals. If he was putting the ball in the net once every two games, nobody would care if he sat in the centre circle at half time, while his person stylist sorted out his split ends.
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Sept 11, 2018 8:21:26 GMT
I think our fans have actually been incredibly patient and supportive considering his performances and goal ratio. Agreed, he was getting loads of stick at Peterborough and he had scored 13 goals that year! I’m still hoping/ praying that he comes good but my patience is beginning to run out. Likewise. I’m not impressed at all with him but I never shout abuse at him and to be fair I’ve even heard the thatchers end singing his name recently which is incredible support for a player who looks like he couldn’t give two shits half the time.
|
|
|
Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 11, 2018 8:27:48 GMT
There was a bloke stood behind me on Saturday who kept on about Nichols touching his hair too much. I find it all really, really weird. It’s way beyond his lack of goals. It`s exactly because of his lack of goals. If he was putting the ball in the net once every two games, nobody would care if he sat in the centre circle at half time, while his person stylist sorted out his split ends. I think you've just hit on a new form of half time entertainment. The crowd could chant for whichever style they want.
|
|
|
Post by William Wilson on Sept 11, 2018 10:03:23 GMT
It`s exactly because of his lack of goals. If he was putting the ball in the net once every two games, nobody would care if he sat in the centre circle at half time, while his person stylist sorted out his split ends. I think you've just hit on a new form of half time entertainment. The crowd could chant for whichever style they want. "You don`t know what you`re doing..."
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Sept 11, 2018 10:56:13 GMT
It`s exactly because of his lack of goals. If he was putting the ball in the net once every two games, nobody would care if he sat in the centre circle at half time, while his person stylist sorted out his split ends. I think you've just hit on a new form of half time entertainment. The crowd could chant for whichever style they want. I think his team mates should shave his hair off and tell him he’s not growing it back until he scores.
|
|
|
Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 11, 2018 20:07:39 GMT
All the Nichols references have been mightily honest and truthful.
Most of the negativity has actually been acknowledged by the player himself and DC.
As unpalatable as it may be, as counterproductive as it may be, it's the truth.
I see it's a dreadful waste of time playing him now..... we're 50 games down the line waiting for him to start and even the most patient on here are still willing to give him more time...... that's an honest opinion......I prefer to stick with he's a waste of space and every minute that goes by he's on the pitch, it's another minute wasted someone else could be gelling with Payne (Watford fella scored today.... much like Telford last season, ring any bells?). And then you look to see we're not scoring enough and the consequence is we are in a relegation battle.
How much longer are you going to accept it without comments?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 2:21:53 GMT
In a way tom nichols represents the turning point on the playing field of darrell clarkes bristol rovers. Hes like the stalingrad of darrell clarkes march to glory in that after we signed him we were never quite the same boldly optimistic new rovers. In fact we have slowly crept into doubt and lost some identity. He does have nice hair though[tom].
|
|
|
Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 12, 2018 5:15:30 GMT
Actually, I think Luke James was something of a turning point for me.
His continued inclusion in the team was the first time I started to doubt DC.
To have persisted so long with a player that contributes even less than James makes me doubt DCs judgement even further.
I don't like it.
|
|
|
Post by blueridge on Sept 12, 2018 5:18:13 GMT
All the Nichols references have been mightily honest and truthful. Most of the negativity has actually been acknowledged by the player himself and DC. As unpalatable as it may be, as counterproductive as it may be, it's the truth. I see it's a dreadful waste of time playing him now..... we're 50 games down the line waiting for him to start and even the most patient on here are still willing to give him more time...... that's an honest opinion......I prefer to stick with he's a waste of space and every minute that goes by he's on the pitch, it's another minute wasted someone else could be gelling with Payne (Watford fella scored today.... much like Telford last season, ring any bells?). And then you look to see we're not scoring enough and the consequence is we are in a relegation battle. How much longer are you going to accept it without comments? Early days I know but I feel that Stefan Payne is not going to be the answer to the big problems we have up front - scoring goals! Payne to me is not particularly strong in the air and does not 'lead the line' well despite his size and apart from his first game has shown little since to suggest to me he's going to score the 15+ goals we are going to need from him as a minimum. His goal scoring scoring record in the EFL is poor. Around £500k spent on two 'strikers' that seemingly will not produce the goods does not bode well and I tend to agree we are IMO in a "relegation battle" already this season. I hope DC at least gives an extended run to the Watford player and Reilly as a combination - they can't do any worse can they? But it's not just the pairing of the front two - we have problems all over the pitch - and who to play where in whatever combination - hopefully at least, he may have sorted one position.
|
|
|
Post by neilv93 on Sept 12, 2018 6:53:13 GMT
All the Nichols references have been mightily honest and truthful. Most of the negativity has actually been acknowledged by the player himself and DC. As unpalatable as it may be, as counterproductive as it may be, it's the truth. I see it's a dreadful waste of time playing him now..... we're 50 games down the line waiting for him to start and even the most patient on here are still willing to give him more time...... that's an honest opinion......I prefer to stick with he's a waste of space and every minute that goes by he's on the pitch, it's another minute wasted someone else could be gelling with Payne (Watford fella scored today.... much like Telford last season, ring any bells?). And then you look to see we're not scoring enough and the consequence is we are in a relegation battle. How much longer are you going to accept it without comments? Early days I know but I feel that Stefan Payne is not going to be the answer to the big problems we have up front - scoring goals! Payne to me is not particularly strong in the air and does not 'lead the line' well despite his size and apart from his first game has shown little since to suggest to me he's going to score the 15+ goals we are going to need from him as a minimum. His goal scoring scoring record in the EFL is poor. Around £500k spent on two 'strikers' that seemingly will not produce the goods does not bode well and I tend to agree we are IMO in a "relegation battle" already this season. I hope DC at least gives an extended run to the Watford player and Reilly as a combination - they can't do any worse can they? But it's not just the pairing of the front two - we have problems all over the pitch - and who to play where in whatever combination - hopefully at least, he may have sorted one position. Agreed. Willing to give Payne a chance and I'm certainly not bashing him but he's hardly hitting the heights (or winning aerial battles against his centre-back counterpart for that matter)... if we say Nichols doesn't deserve to start (fair enough) then how long do we give Payne? Only problem is we have no other 'target man-like' option, meaning Stef's place is under little threat/competition (and that worries me), so I can't see him being dropped anytime soon. But other than the debut header and a penalty, can't say he's contributed that much more than the others per-minute over his eight games. Just my two cents!
|
|
|
Post by William Wilson on Sept 12, 2018 7:02:52 GMT
All the Nichols references have been mightily honest and truthful. Most of the negativity has actually been acknowledged by the player himself and DC. As unpalatable as it may be, as counterproductive as it may be, it's the truth. I see it's a dreadful waste of time playing him now..... we're 50 games down the line waiting for him to start and even the most patient on here are still willing to give him more time...... that's an honest opinion......I prefer to stick with he's a waste of space and every minute that goes by he's on the pitch, it's another minute wasted someone else could be gelling with Payne (Watford fella scored today.... much like Telford last season, ring any bells?). And then you look to see we're not scoring enough and the consequence is we are in a relegation battle. How much longer are you going to accept it without comments? Early days I know but I feel that Stefan Payne is not going to be the answer to the big problems we have up front - scoring goals! Payne to me is not particularly strong in the air and does not 'lead the line' well despite his size and apart from his first game has shown little since to suggest to me he's going to score the 15+ goals we are going to need from him as a minimum. His goal scoring scoring record in the EFL is poor. Around £500k spent on two 'strikers' that seemingly will not produce the goods does not bode well and I tend to agree we are IMO in a "relegation battle" already this season. I hope DC at least gives an extended run to the Watford player and Reilly as a combination - they can't do any worse can they? But it's not just the pairing of the front two - we have problems all over the pitch - and who to play where in whatever combination - hopefully at least, he may have sorted one position. Kelly at left back? I don`t know what to make of Payne. The first couple of home games, I thought he was a really fit guy ( in a cardiovascular sense ); he never stopped running and causing problems for the opposition defences. I thought he might make a decent fist of replacing Ellis.
But against Plymuff, I was actually quite shocked by his lack of effort. He won a couple of flick ons, but that was pretty much it. He looked like he had the flu.
Like you say, "Early days." Hopefully he will come good.
|
|
|
Post by richard on Sept 12, 2018 9:39:13 GMT
Actually, I think Luke James was something of a turning point for me. His continued inclusion in the team was the first time I started to doubt DC. To have persisted so long with a player that contributes even less than James makes me doubt DCs judgement even further. I don't like it.
Your opinion is that he contributes less than James.
My opinion is he links the midfield and attack, has an excellent touch, good vision and should start.
His goal scoring record is poor and he doesn't get into enough goal scoring areas for me but he does contribute to the team. He was excellent against Wycombe away and Portsmouth at home for example - probably our two best performances of the season. Even this season he's been in and out of the team - just give him ten games up front without chopping and changing - he hasn't had that since he joined.
|
|
|
Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 12, 2018 9:55:41 GMT
Actually, I think Luke James was something of a turning point for me. His continued inclusion in the team was the first time I started to doubt DC. To have persisted so long with a player that contributes even less than James makes me doubt DCs judgement even further. I don't like it.
Your opinion is that he contributes less than James.
My opinion is he links the midfield and attack, has an excellent touch, good vision and should start.
His goal scoring record is poor and he doesn't get into enough goal scoring areas for me but he does contribute to the team. He was excellent against Wycombe away and Portsmouth at home for example - probably our two best performances of the season. Even this season he's been in and out of the team - just give him ten games up front without chopping and changing - he hasn't had that since he joined.
None of our players have had a settled side to play in to be fair!! I agree Nichols did have a good game against Portsmouth.
|
|
|
Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 12, 2018 10:59:57 GMT
Your opinion is that he contributes less than James.
My opinion is he links the midfield and attack, has an excellent touch, good vision and should start.
His goal scoring record is poor and he doesn't get into enough goal scoring areas for me but he does contribute to the team. He was excellent against Wycombe away and Portsmouth at home for example - probably our two best performances of the season. Even this season he's been in and out of the team - just give him ten games up front without chopping and changing - he hasn't had that since he joined.
None of our players have had a settled side to play in to be fair!! I agree Nichols did have a good game against Portsmouth. Broken clock syndrome until proven otherwise.
|
|