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Post by South Stand Ultra on Oct 27, 2018 17:14:07 GMT
Oh, and as you're keeping score, its 3-2 South stand ultra!!!!
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 27, 2018 17:14:21 GMT
Not saying it didn't happen but let's not make up things without proof to back it up. Also if fans are indeed giving him stick then is he wrong to give it back? Players should be backed when they're on the pitch anything else creates a horrid atmosphere and makes it harder for the players to perform. TBH I don't blame fans, it's frustrating enough watching him do f all from my armchair, it was must really annoying if you've made the time and effort to actually get to the match. Makes you wonder what scouting we do before signing players as he clearly isn't what we needed to replace Harrison or Gaffney, neither was Bakayoko. Yes but from Paynes view he has just come of the pitch to a defeat thinking he has put a shift in. Whether he has or not is debatable but he will be thinking he has even if he thinks he's played poorly. So obviously if he's walking of and the fans are f-in and blinding at him he may react? Then fans act all hurt when a player does give some stick back? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 18:17:52 GMT
Sadly he's starting to prove he might have done as he doesn't seem to have a clue what he's doing now. That's 7 games w/o a "proper" goal now and one goal from open play all season. The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 27, 2018 18:26:04 GMT
The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. Yeah, pretty much the best we can do is stay in League 1. Obviously a go for the playoffs is funner than a relegation battle, but the result (League 1 football next season) is the same (provided we don't actually get relegated, which I am confident we won't). |
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Post by socrates on Oct 27, 2018 19:10:58 GMT
Sadly he's starting to prove he might have done as he doesn't seem to have a clue what he's doing now. That's 7 games w/o a "proper" goal now and one goal from open play all season. The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. League 1 ? Or 2 ? |
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Post by socrates on Oct 27, 2018 19:14:02 GMT
The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. Spot on sensible post that sums it up perfectly. |
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Post by stigofthegas on Oct 27, 2018 19:15:05 GMT
The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. What a great post. I completely agree. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 19:58:31 GMT
None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. What a great post. I completely agree. were a league 2 club having a spell in league 1,thats the real truth. |
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Post by rosssgb on Oct 27, 2018 20:49:58 GMT
The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. Best post in a while. Time Midland, 365 and the rest have a real reality check. We are where we are enjoy it while it lasts as it won’t be long until we’re back in League 2. We have one of the worst grounds in the entire football league (not only quality wise but also for cash generation etc) and have no training ground of our own. We haven’t even got a training ground confirmed for next year with our lease ending this season. We are a total shambles off the pitch, with most/all of the new board seemingly in hiding. |
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Post by Centenary Gas on Oct 27, 2018 21:12:09 GMT
The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. Every club has to sell players. We lost ours over multiple windows, and it has just highlighted how poor nearly every signing has been over multiple windows. Had DC brought ONE decent striker from the 2x£300k+ he spent (not 1 goal in 60 TN and another who is out of favour after 5 games), had he planned better before replacing players such as Brown when he had months notice, had we not had a succession of poor goalkeepers (we signed two in the summer and it took a third to get things right, and on loan). I'm not saying its all DC's making. The board have cast a cloud over the club this season. Recruitment in the conference was good. Our manager had a balanced squad of hungry pro's and played attractive football. Now he has a large failure rate in the transfer market (we may have a small budget but it's not bottom 3 or 4), plays negative football with journeyman signings, and makes bizarre decisions playing players out of position. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 27, 2018 21:50:35 GMT
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Post by islandgas on Oct 27, 2018 22:15:00 GMT
None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. Yeah, pretty much the best we can do is stay in League 1. Obviously a go for the playoffs is funner than a relegation battle, but the result (League 1 football next season) is the same (provided we don't actually get relegated, which I am confident we won't). I wish I had your confidence. Who is going to score the goals to keep us up? |
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Post by islandgas on Oct 27, 2018 22:18:36 GMT
The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. I can't agree with your conclusion. We have enough income to remain a mid table league one team. |
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Oct 27, 2018 22:24:15 GMT
I didn't go today but reading this on Barnsley forum gives me some optimistic perspective
we are fourth, unbeaten at home, a clean sheet.
We were very lucky but you make your own luck, teams at the top get the greater share of it than those at the bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 22:26:25 GMT
None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. I can't agree with your conclusion. We have enough income to remain a mid table league one team. Maybe. But we make it harder when we keep selling our best goalscorers. I'm not saying it is wrong to do so as economics and player ambition are naturally key factors too, but the reality is you can't keep finding goalscorers to replace them time after time. Eventually the supply dries up. It happened to Ollie and it's happening to DC. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 27, 2018 22:28:20 GMT
The promotions weren't lucky but every manager has their level and I think DC has found his. None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. Good post that sums the situation up. Until someone comes in with real intent to push us on with serious plans for what the current owners were suggesting with the new ground and training facility we will do well to stay in League 1. UTG! |
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Post by socrates on Oct 28, 2018 1:20:05 GMT
None of us know if DC has found his level or not. Personally, I think he is an ambitious young manager who has four promotions under his belt already and I believe that he can and will go further. What I AM sure about though is that Bristol Rovers have reached their level. When I started watching in 1977, and for the years until relegation in 2001, we were a yo-yo second/third tier team at best, spending most of our time in the third. Since returning to Bristol in 1996 however, the club has gone backwards off the pitch. Successive boards have failed completely to build upon the opportunity we had when returning and whilst I applaud the current regime for starting to put in some improvements that frankly should have been done under Dunford and Higgs, even a 'rose tinter' like myself is starting to doubt their commitment to the long term cause. Largely as a result of this lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, I think Rovers are now a yo-yo third/fourth tier club who are destined to spend more time in the fourth. We are currently over-achieving in the third due to having had that magic blend of a brilliant manager who has got the best out of a committed group of players. However, even the best can't keep on replacing the quality of strikers such as those we've lost by having considerably less to spend on their replacements. As someone else pointed out, you ain't going to get a Taylor for £300k, a Bodin for £400k and a Harrison for £750k...and our manager can't spend even that much. We were having the same debate last season when some people's sights were on the Championship. It's not the manager that is the problem here. It's that the club is nowhere near ready to progress forward. And when you have to accept that the best you can do is stand still, it's inevitable that you will go backwards as others improve. Every club has to sell players. We lost ours over multiple windows, and it has just highlighted how poor nearly every signing has been over multiple windows. Had DC brought ONE decent striker from the 2x£300k+ he spent (not 1 goal in 60 TN and another who is out of favour after 5 games), had he planned better before replacing players such as Brown when he had months notice, had we not had a succession of poor goalkeepers (we signed two in the summer and it took a third to get things right, and on loan). I'm not saying its all DC's making. The board have cast a cloud over the club this season. Recruitment in the conference was good. Our manager had a balanced squad of hungry pro's and played attractive football. Now he has a large failure rate in the transfer market (we may have a small budget but it's not bottom 3 or 4), plays negative football with journeyman signings, and makes bizarre decisions playing players out of position. I agree with 1970 s post but your also right . At rovers it’s always been a case of losing our best players after promotions but sometimes we replace them with other good players and stay up and other times we don’t get it right and get relegated . Seems we may be heading for the latter this season or might just stay up because the replacement players for Bodin Harrison Gafney Taylor and brown have been no where near as good as any of those players. None of those positions have yet been filled by a signing who we can honestly say has been a good signing , if we’d had two or three we’d probably be 6 points better off and not feeling too bad about it but they’ve all been somewhere between pretty poor and crap. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 28, 2018 9:07:21 GMT
Everyone moaning after yesterday...losing 1-0 away to Barnsley is actually a fair result. They are going to be up there and maybe even go up. The situation we are in is sh** but this result on it's own was not a bad result and doesn't sound like we did too bad.
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 28, 2018 9:19:42 GMT
Everyone moaning after yesterday...losing 1-0 away to Barnsley is actually a fair result. They are going to be up there and maybe even go up. The situation we are in is sh** but this result on it's own was not a bad result and doesn't sound like we did too bad. It didn't sound too bad but yet again we had ONE shot on target. I've no doubt we'll be the first "Not too bad" side to be relegated to the Fourth Division. Someone needs to get a grip pretty damn quickly |
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 3, 2018 16:49:37 GMT
Forget everything thus far.....season starts at Blackpool. You heard it here first......👍 Hope you got your bets on......  |
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