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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2018 20:10:14 GMT
So many want them out, but don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes!! Plus a lot of clubs owners are worse than ours. Are we better off than before they took over?? Yes I'm lots of ways. Team might be worse, but the budgets about 50% higher, so that's there fault obviously. More spent in a lot of areas. Better back room staff. Better medical team. Double sponsorship deals Stadium wise, we don't know what is happening, but obviously everyone thinks they do. Those same people knew about Uwe, years before everyone else I suppose as well! Let's half the budget again. Sell player's and never reinvest any of it. Put the mem back to how it was. Look to half the sponsorship and go back to the raffle. Be careful what you wish for. Although we need a new stadium etc, things can be a whole lot worse. All the ALQ's are spending on the budget is 60% of the turnover so if we do get relegated, which is now looking likely, it will be cut back to whatever NH was paying when we were last in Div 2. If we do go down most likely the back room & medical staff will be cut and the Development Squad disbanded. As far as never reinvesting any of a sold player's fees that didn't happen under either NH or the Dunfords anyway. One thing you don't mention is the massive debts the ALQ's have run up inc wasting £500K on the Chairman's & CEO's wages and an office in London, if that money had been spent on replacements for Bodin &/or Harrison I doubt we'd be stuck at the wrong end of the table. Although where are the ALQ's actually taking us now, there seems no vision/plan whats so ever.
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Post by oldgas on Nov 28, 2018 20:11:32 GMT
Bunch of charlatans. Best they f uck off before it gets nasty. It won't be long before they start getting abuse based on their ethnicity. Then the sh1t will hit the fan. Idiot , why would their ethnicity be brought into this ? What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say , this has to be the most stupid post I’ve seen on here , ever. Bit strong there old chap. Good to see you're attacking the post and not the poster...... Oh, hang on. Unfortunately, if the team continues to slide and DC goes, and there is no news on training ground or stadium replacement/enhancement, I can see there being some unpleasant comments being shouted and chanted by some elements in the crowd. that, I am afraid is a fact of life. Why do people have to immediately assume I am being, or am advocating racist behaviour? Strewth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:12:51 GMT
So many want them out, but don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes!! Plus a lot of clubs owners are worse than ours. Are we better off than before they took over?? Yes I'm lots of ways. Team might be worse, but the budgets about 50% higher, so that's there fault obviously. More spent in a lot of areas. Better back room staff. Better medical team. Double sponsorship deals Stadium wise, we don't know what is happening, but obviously everyone thinks they do. Those same people knew about Uwe, years before everyone else I suppose as well! Let's half the budget again. Sell player's and never reinvest any of it. Put the mem back to how it was. Look to half the sponsorship and go back to the raffle. Be careful what you wish for. Although we need a new stadium etc, things can be a whole lot worse. All the ALQ's are spending on the budget is 60% of the turnover so if we do get relegated, which is now looking likely, it will be cut back to whatever NH was paying when we were last in Div 2. If we do go down most likely the back room & medical staff will be cut and the Development Squad disbanded. As far as never reinvesting any of a sold player's fees that didn't happen under either NH or the Dunfords anyway. One thing you don't mention is the massive debts the ALQ's have run up inc wasting £500K on the Chairman's & CEO's wages and an office in London, if that money had been spent on replacements for Bodin &/or Harrison I doubt we'd be stuck at the wrong end of the table. Although where are the ALQ's actually taking us now, there seems no vision/plan whats so ever. They got a plan alright but not for the interests of BRFC
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Post by justin blue on Nov 28, 2018 20:13:55 GMT
So many want them out, but don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes!! Plus a lot of clubs owners are worse than ours. Are we better off than before they took over?? Yes I'm lots of ways. Team might be worse, but the budgets about 50% higher, so that's there fault obviously. More spent in a lot of areas. Better back room staff. Better medical team. Double sponsorship deals Stadium wise, we don't know what is happening, but obviously everyone thinks they do. Those same people knew about Uwe, years before everyone else I suppose as well! Let's half the budget again. Sell player's and never reinvest any of it. Put the mem back to how it was. Look to half the sponsorship and go back to the raffle. Be careful what you wish for. Although we need a new stadium etc, things can be a whole lot worse. Oh give it a rest. next you'll be saying we should think ourselves lucky.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2018 20:17:27 GMT
So many want them out, but don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes!! Plus a lot of clubs owners are worse than ours. Are we better off than before they took over?? Yes I'm lots of ways. Team might be worse, but the budgets about 50% higher, so that's there fault obviously. More spent in a lot of areas. Better back room staff. Better medical team. Double sponsorship deals Stadium wise, we don't know what is happening, but obviously everyone thinks they do. Those same people knew about Uwe, years before everyone else I suppose as well! Let's half the budget again. Sell player's and never reinvest any of it. Put the mem back to how it was. Look to half the sponsorship and go back to the raffle. Be careful what you wish for. Although we need a new stadium etc, things can be a whole lot worse. Oh give it a rest. next you'll be saying we should think ourselves lucky. No but we lose a few games and a lot of fans don't look at the bigger picture. Nothing had changed. We were never going to find out about a stadium this early. The only thing that has changed is our league for and some people sh** stirring.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2018 20:19:22 GMT
So many want them out, but don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes!! Plus a lot of clubs owners are worse than ours. Are we better off than before they took over?? Yes I'm lots of ways. Team might be worse, but the budgets about 50% higher, so that's there fault obviously. More spent in a lot of areas. Better back room staff. Better medical team. Double sponsorship deals Stadium wise, we don't know what is happening, but obviously everyone thinks they do. Those same people knew about Uwe, years before everyone else I suppose as well! Let's half the budget again. Sell player's and never reinvest any of it. Put the mem back to how it was. Look to half the sponsorship and go back to the raffle. Be careful what you wish for. Although we need a new stadium etc, things can be a whole lot worse. All the ALQ's are spending on the budget is 60% of the turnover so if we do get relegated, which is now looking likely, it will be cut back to whatever NH was paying when we were last in Div 2. If we do go down most likely the back room & medical staff will be cut and the Development Squad disbanded. As far as never reinvesting any of a sold player's fees that didn't happen under either NH or the Dunfords anyway. One thing you don't mention is the massive debts the ALQ's have run up inc wasting £500K on the Chairman's & CEO's wages and an office in London, if that money had been spent on replacements for Bodin &/or Harrison I doubt we'd be stuck at the wrong end of the table. Although where are the ALQ's actually taking us now, there seems no vision/plan whats so ever. 60% is playing budget. Our staff budget is a lot higher, but does not count towards the 60%. Going down to league 2 does not change the amount a lot. Could even have more of we were doing well and attendances were higher, so that's rubbish.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Nov 28, 2018 20:28:09 GMT
Santa doesn't fail to deliver either!! You can’t behave like this unless you change your name to Hugoincider 😀😀😀😀😀😀 Has anyone asked Mrs Hugo if that's ok with her?
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Post by socrates on Nov 28, 2018 20:36:21 GMT
I genuinely believe that Wael has fallen for Rovers in the same kind of way that most of us have and is doing his best to give the club what he and we all want but he’s finding it very difficult because of his family and because hes never owned a football club before. I don’t think he’s a bullshitter but I do think he hasn’t been able to do the things for our club that he said he wanted to. I’m prepared to hang on in there and see what he can do over the next year and if we’re no further to planning for a stadium or training ground then he should put the club up for sale.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:37:48 GMT
You can’t behave like this unless you change your name to Hugoincider 😀😀😀😀😀😀 Has anyone asked Mrs Hugo if that's ok with her? She probably doesn't even notice.
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Post by justin blue on Nov 28, 2018 20:39:46 GMT
Oh give it a rest. next you'll be saying we should think ourselves lucky. No but we lose a few games and a lot of fans don't look at the bigger picture. Nothing had changed. We were never going to find out about a stadium this early. The only thing that has changed is our league for and some people sh** stirring. This isn't about a few games it's about the way this club has been run. We don't know what the bigger picture is because we have not been told, we only know what we have at present which is a rubbish team and crap facilities. I just think it's a bit of an insult to say after all that this club has been through that it could be worst.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:47:50 GMT
im with you but rkn he’s got something up his sleeve and I don’t mean his Rolex watch Must be a reason for his silence,he always messages my son about the football and my son asked him why he hasn’t spent any money and he replied what do you mean haven’t seen the new tents 😂so he’s got a sense of humour...would you joke about that if something wasn’t happening Unless he’s just a water taking lady garden,I think he loves the club and is trying really hard to push something through Hamer I’m not keen on he just thinks every fan is thick as sh** that believes his bolox,bellend Welcome to Team Wael. BELIEVE!! can we ban a mod?
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2018 20:51:15 GMT
No but we lose a few games and a lot of fans don't look at the bigger picture. Nothing had changed. We were never going to find out about a stadium this early. The only thing that has changed is our league for and some people sh** stirring. This isn't about a few games it's about the way this club has been run. We don't know what the bigger picture is because we have not been told, we only know what we have at present which is a rubbish team and crap facilities. I just think it's a bit of an insult to say after all that this club has been through that it could be worst. We have been told loads of times. Fans choose not to believe them though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:59:11 GMT
My natural inclination on their performance so far would be 'out', however I haven't voted as it's too easy to say out without a credible alternative.
I so wanted to believe in the Al-Qadi's and I still do believe that Wael wants to succeed. Some improvements have been made and there are aspects of the club that are in a better shape than they were before.
However, good leaders don't hide when the going gets tough. Good leaders don't say one thing to their most prized asset and then fail to deliver on it. Good leaders have a plan to progress their business. Good leaders don't ignore and subsequently alienate their customers. Good leaders don't leave one employee to front up and take all the crap.
For these reasons, IF there genuinely is someone out there who is able take over and has a credible plan to take this club forward, I implore Wael and his family to sell up. Thank you for what you have done, but good riddance for the broken promises and complete lack of leadership. If there genuinely is no-one, it doesn't matter what we think as they will go nowhere.
And if their lack of leadership and communication forces DC out (and I fear it will), then I will be convinced that they are no longer the right people to lead our club and I will be joining the 'sack the board' crowd.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2018 21:06:52 GMT
This isn't about a few games it's about the way this club has been run. We don't know what the bigger picture is because we have not been told, we only know what we have at present which is a rubbish team and crap facilities. I just think it's a bit of an insult to say after all that this club has been through that it could be worst. We have been told loads of times. Fans choose not to believe them though. What have we been told? We've employed a CEO who we haven't a clue what he does, we were told a large TV screen was being installed but that's never arrived. Plus Wael hinted talks were taking place in his last interview but since then has gone offline whilst the club slowly sinks. Meanwhile we had DC last night suggesting he wants answers, so clearly he's as much in the dark as the rest of us. I know your an ALQ fanboy but surely even you are concerned by the fact we're likely to be playing back in Div 2 next season with debts far greater than we've ever had before with only Wael of the 4 owners seemingly still interested in the club.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Nov 28, 2018 21:53:05 GMT
I feel for DC. Sounds like false promises kept him from going to one of the biggest clubs in the country. I feel utterly let down. No investment, no stadium, no training ground and no hope.
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Post by orgasmic on Nov 28, 2018 22:03:49 GMT
All the ALQ's are spending on the budget is 60% of the turnover so if we do get relegated, which is now looking likely, it will be cut back to whatever NH was paying when we were last in Div 2. If we do go down most likely the back room & medical staff will be cut and the Development Squad disbanded. As far as never reinvesting any of a sold player's fees that didn't happen under either NH or the Dunfords anyway. One thing you don't mention is the massive debts the ALQ's have run up inc wasting £500K on the Chairman's & CEO's wages and an office in London, if that money had been spent on replacements for Bodin &/or Harrison I doubt we'd be stuck at the wrong end of the table. Although where are the ALQ's actually taking us now, there seems no vision/plan whats so ever. 60% is playing budget. Our staff budget is a lot higher, but does not count towards the 60%. Going down to league 2 does not change the amount a lot. Could even have more of we were doing well and attendances were higher, so that's rubbish. If you don't pay for pointless staff you could gift the difference to add to the turnover. Ditto the London office.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 28, 2018 22:07:00 GMT
I genuinely believe that Wael has fallen for Rovers in the same kind of way that most of us have and is doing his best to give the club what he and we all want but he’s finding it very difficult because of his family and because hes never owned a football club before. I don’t think he’s a bullshitter but I do think he hasn’t been able to do the things for our club that he said he wanted to. I’m prepared to hang on in there and see what he can do over the next year and if we’re no further to planning for a stadium or training ground then he should put the club up for sale. We will be in league 2 in a years time. ALQ if still here need to give DC and the head of recruitment some cash in January. If DC then fail then you could argue DC was given a chance. But as it stand, club morale is low, we can't buy a win and look league 2 bound, 18 months on from UWE collapse still no plan and they own an empty field which we should be using for Training already. It's a shambles.
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Post by Okebournegas on Nov 28, 2018 22:38:48 GMT
Idiot , why would their ethnicity be brought into this ? What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say , this has to be the most stupid post I’ve seen on here , ever. Bit strong there old chap. Good to see you're attacking the post and not the poster...... Oh, hang on. Unfortunately, if the team continues to slide and DC goes, and there is no news on training ground or stadium replacement/enhancement, I can see there being some unpleasant comments being shouted and chanted by some elements in the crowd. that, I am afraid is a fact of life. Why do people have to immediately assume I am being, or am advocating racist behaviour? Strewth. I’m not saying anything of the sort , I don’t know why you would bring it up that’s all ? It’s totally irrelevant what ethnicity he is , hence why I think your post is a load of old bollox, no gashead I know would aim anything of the sort at the owners, ‘ fact of life ‘ perhaps if you’re still living in the dark ages and with an outlook that , perhaps you are. I’m not attacking you in any shape or form , your post is idiotic and I will not change my stance on it , apologies if you think I’m being personal I just think what you posted was unjustified.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2018 22:48:03 GMT
We have been told loads of times. Fans choose not to believe them though. What have we been told? We've employed a CEO who we haven't a clue what he does, we were told a large TV screen was being installed but that's never arrived. Plus Wael hinted talks were taking place in his last interview but since then has gone offline whilst the club slowly sinks. Meanwhile we had DC last night suggesting he wants answers, so clearly he's as much in the dark as the rest of us. I know your an ALQ fanboy but surely even you are concerned by the fact we're likely to be playing back in Div 2 next season with debts far greater than we've ever had before with only Wael of the 4 owners seemingly still interested in the club. We were told they are looking into multiple options. Big screen is in the country, they have been waiting for it to be installed. Hoping it will be installed in December. I'm 50/50 on the board, I'm not a big fan boy. But the point is, we don't know what is happening, as they can't say. You could spend the most and still go down, if the manager waists the money.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2018 22:50:08 GMT
60% is playing budget. Our staff budget is a lot higher, but does not count towards the 60%. Going down to league 2 does not change the amount a lot. Could even have more of we were doing well and attendances were higher, so that's rubbish. If you don't pay for pointless staff you could gift the difference to add to the turnover. Ditto the London office. Do you know what those staff are doing then?? So you can't say if they are pointless. If they don't waste money, they wouldn't employ them to do nothing surely?? To me, it points to they are king to into our options. We all want it to happen sooner though, which is the problem.
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