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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Dec 8, 2018 19:11:17 GMT
Today I left the ground angry with yet another horrendous and negative performance at home in the pi55ing rain.
After getting home and reading/listening to the DC interview, I went from angry to fuming. Yes he admits himself he has failed with the best budget he’s ever had but the fact that after clarification at a board meeting that the budgets are being cut and nothing is happening with the stadium or training ground, I just can’t wait to see the back of WAQ, his family and Hamer.
DC is clearly struggling and is getting a lot wrong at the moment but he is still the best thing that has happened to this club in many a year and for him to be censored on our own website is frankly disgusting.
Either they were incredibly naive or incredibly stupid when they bought our beloved football club. No football team is a money making organisation and it cannot be run in the same vein as a bank etc.
I don’t for one second believe any of these takeover rumours as someone by know would have shown their hand but we are only going one way both on and off the pitch and my patience is now all but gone.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 8, 2018 19:19:41 GMT
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Post by darkbluegas on Dec 8, 2018 19:19:58 GMT
This really isn't complicated, the AQD's are custodians of the club and are trying to keep it afloat without investing any of their own money but by balancing the books. This isn't how we imagined things would turn out but until someone else pitches up with a valuation that matches theirs were stuck with them. How much would a any of us invest in the club with no guarantee of it ever being repaid.
We also have a manager so soured by the whole experience that it's effecting his performance at work.
For his own career and possibly his sanity DC needs to move on and as soon as the two parties can agree a deal I've no doubt he'll be gone.
So unless the 6000 or so faithful are willing to invest two or three grand each there appears little hope of anything changing.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 8, 2018 19:20:54 GMT
"I don’t think anyone would blame me for walking out the door, would they? I’m a fighter, my pride doesn’t let me do that. You’ve just fought all your life. I’m emotional sometimes after the game, like I was after the Gillingham game, but, for me, I want to get clarity out there. That’s where we stand as a football club, let’s try and *ing move it forward." to BP
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 8, 2018 19:22:45 GMT
"I don’t think anyone would blame me for walking out the door, would they? I’m a fighter, my pride doesn’t let me do that. You’ve just fought all your life. I’m emotional sometimes after the game, like I was after the Gillingham game, but, for me, I want to get clarity out there. That’s where we stand as a football club, let’s try and *ing move it forward." to BP Did he actually say that?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 8, 2018 19:25:00 GMT
"I don’t think anyone would blame me for walking out the door, would they? I’m a fighter, my pride doesn’t let me do that. You’ve just fought all your life. I’m emotional sometimes after the game, like I was after the Gillingham game, but, for me, I want to get clarity out there. That’s where we stand as a football club, let’s try and *ing move it forward." to BP Did he actually say that? In BP transcript but not on their video.
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Post by Slide away on Dec 8, 2018 19:33:33 GMT
Loved that interview, basically showed that supporters are being taken for granted and treated as complete idiots by the board.
We learned more about the future of the club in 2 sentences from DC than we have from the board in the previous 2 years...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:39:43 GMT
I've just listened to it and talk about telling half the story!
DC has just admitted this is the best budget he has had (although it will be cut). Come on then apologists, come and spin us a yarn about how DC being under funded even though he himself has stated it's a mid-table budget.
I feel for the guy after listening to that, but by Christ if that is a mid-table budget he hasn't half brought some sh** into this club. Strewth.
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Post by Raj Gas on Dec 8, 2018 19:39:58 GMT
I think the owners messed up big time when they bought us, the new ground, the cost of running a club etc and this strange idea that by employing all these people of the pitch is going to improve what happens on it.
If the budget needs to be cut then that's where they need to start, Chief Executive, Head of Recruitment etc etc.
That said I think DC is doing himself no favours with the current owners or his future prospects by ranting every week after all he has been supported by the owners financially.The problem is that like most people he thought the owners were going to spend what they clearly don't have and don't intend spending on BRFC and in his case probably a lot of false promises to boot!.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 8, 2018 19:43:04 GMT
I think the owners messed up big time when they bought us, the new ground, the cost of running a club etc and this strange idea that by employing all these people of the pitch is going to improve what happens on it. If the budget needs to be cut then that's where they need to start, Chief Executive, Head of Recruitment etc etc. That said I think DC is doing himself no favours with the current owners or his future prospects by ranting every week after all he has been supported by the owners financially.The problem is that like most people he thought the owners were going to spend what they clearly don't have and don't intend spending on BRFC and in his case probably a lot of false promises to boot!. yep. Not a smart move by them clearly. I wouldn't trust their bank with my money!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:47:58 GMT
I think the owners messed up big time when they bought us, the new ground, the cost of running a club etc and this strange idea that by employing all these people of the pitch is going to improve what happens on it. If the budget needs to be cut then that's where they need to start, Chief Executive, Head of Recruitment etc etc. That said I think DC is doing himself no favours with the current owners or his future prospects by ranting every week after all he has been supported by the owners financially.The problem is that like most people he thought the owners were going to spend what they clearly don't have and don't intend spending on BRFC and in his case probably a lot of false promises to boot!. Absolutely! Get shot of that bloody office in London for a start. How you can cut the manager's budget in a relegation battle whilst paying 250k oer annum for a poxy office beggars belief. Although saying that if this season's budget is the best ever then I probably couldn't blame them if their reduction in spending is because they have no faith left in DC to spend it wisely yet can't afford to sack him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 19:50:59 GMT
I've just listened to it and talk about telling half the story! DC has just admitted this is the best budget he has had (although it will be cut). Come on then apologists, come and spin us a yarn about how DC being under funded even though he himself has stated it's a mid-table budget. I feel for the guy after listening to that, but by Christ if that is a mid-table budget he hasn't half brought some sh** into this club. Strewth. The fact remains that we have sold all the goals out of the side over the last couple of years and replaced them at a fraction of their value. I'm not saying this is wrong as it is the lot of almost every lower league manager that you have to sell your best players and make a profit in the transfer market. But that doesn't take away the likelihood that it will in the end catch up with you. That's why it is very rare for a small club to progress and then maintain their new found status. That is what is happening to us now. Darrell has said that his signings this summer haven't been good enough. He has said that he is underperforming based on his budget. I'm not sure how much more honesty anyone wants from him.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 8, 2018 19:52:54 GMT
Has anyone stopped to consider that this might be a Ferguson-esque masterclass in diverting attention from the result? The best way to bury bad news is to create even worse news and, as BBc BRistol have said themselves, start chatting some 'explosive' stuff. Look what's happened- he's had a go at the owners and all of a sudden on here the mood has changed and everyone is behind Clarke again. A decent attempt at mind games. You obviously fail to understand DC then. A council estate kid, brought up by nan, in ex mining town. Has ok lower league football career as a grafter. Honest and laddish. Likes the dressing room. Calls a spade a spade. Passionate. Moral. No bullshit.
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Post by swissgas on Dec 8, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
I think the owners messed up big time when they bought us, the new ground, the cost of running a club etc and this strange idea that by employing all these people of the pitch is going to improve what happens on it. If the budget needs to be cut then that's where they need to start, Chief Executive, Head of Recruitment etc etc. That said I think DC is doing himself no favours with the current owners or his future prospects by ranting every week after all he has been supported by the owners financially.The problem is that like most people he thought the owners were going to spend what they clearly don't have and don't intend spending on BRFC and in his case probably a lot of false promises to boot!. yep. Not a smart move by them clearly. I wouldn't trust their bank with my money! I would ! What more could you want from a bank than a reasonable rate of interest on your deposit and 100% security that you will get your money back. " To answer your previous question, "could they sell the Mem to get repayment ?, yes they certainly could and I think when the time is right for them they will.
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Post by utg12 on Dec 8, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
Just a bit of balance to add in, it probably wasn't our owners who made the call to cut Darrell's comments. I expect someone wary of attaching their name to the comments may have done it, whoever is in charge of the Youtube videos for example. That said, I certainly wouldn't rule out someone like Hamer making the call. Martyn Starnes doesn't seem to do anything so I wouldn't imagine it was him... Some truth to that but if you have a sh**, dictatorial system, which encourages go-getters and a well paid Chair rather than loyal clubmen you get lies, insecurity and politics. The truth shall set you free.
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Post by tbonegas on Dec 8, 2018 20:01:13 GMT
Has anyone stopped to consider that this might be a Ferguson-esque masterclass in diverting attention from the result? The best way to bury bad news is to create even worse news and, as BBc BRistol have said themselves, start chatting some 'explosive' stuff. Look what's happened- he's had a go at the owners and all of a sudden on here the mood has changed and everyone is behind Clarke again. A decent attempt at mind games. You obviously fail to understand DC then. A council estate kid, brought up by nan, in ex mining town. Has ok lower league football career as a grafter. Honest and laddish. Likes the dressing room. Calls a spade a spade. Passionate. Moral. No bullshit. No bullshit? That made me laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 20:04:28 GMT
I've just listened to it and talk about telling half the story! DC has just admitted this is the best budget he has had (although it will be cut). Come on then apologists, come and spin us a yarn about how DC being under funded even though he himself has stated it's a mid-table budget. I feel for the guy after listening to that, but by Christ if that is a mid-table budget he hasn't half brought some sh** into this club. Strewth. The fact remains that we have sold all the goals out of the side over the last couple of years and replaced them at a fraction of their value. I'm not saying this is wrong as it is the lot of almost every lower league manager that you have to sell your best players and make a profit in the transfer market. But that doesn't take away the likelihood that it will in the end catch up with you. That's why it is very rare for a small club to progress and then maintain their new found status. That is what is happening to us now. Darrell has said that his signings this summer haven't been good enough. He has said that he is underperforming based on his budget. I'm not sure how much more honesty anyone wants from him. He is being as honest as he can be, but my issue is not with him- it just seems to be a consistent refrain on these boards that he hasn't been backed properly and is therefore blameless. If he has a mid-table budget and we are in the relegation zone then I think we can put to be the idea that he has done the best job he can so far this season. He has ballsed it right up to an incredible degree. On that evidence could you blame the board for being wary of giving him more in January?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 20:06:27 GMT
Just a bit of balance to add in, it probably wasn't our owners who made the call to cut Darrell's comments. I expect someone wary of attaching their name to the comments may have done it, whoever is in charge of the Youtube videos for example. That said, I certainly wouldn't rule out someone like Hamer making the call. Martyn Starnes doesn't seem to do anything so I wouldn't imagine it was him... Some truth to that but if you have a sh**, dictatorial system, which encourages go-getters and a well paid Chair rather than loyal clubmen you get lies, insecurity and politics. The truth shall set you free. But the mob running the club before were utter rubbish so whats the difference?
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Post by Gas-Ed on Dec 8, 2018 20:10:03 GMT
Some truth to that but if you have a sh**, dictatorial system, which encourages go-getters and a well paid Chair rather than loyal clubmen you get lies, insecurity and politics. The truth shall set you free. But the mob running the club before were utter rubbish so whats the difference? At least we had hope under the old regime. It’s the hope that keeps us going. Now, the truth is out, we don’t even have that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 20:17:16 GMT
The fact remains that we have sold all the goals out of the side over the last couple of years and replaced them at a fraction of their value. I'm not saying this is wrong as it is the lot of almost every lower league manager that you have to sell your best players and make a profit in the transfer market. But that doesn't take away the likelihood that it will in the end catch up with you. That's why it is very rare for a small club to progress and then maintain their new found status. That is what is happening to us now. Darrell has said that his signings this summer haven't been good enough. He has said that he is underperforming based on his budget. I'm not sure how much more honesty anyone wants from him. He is being as honest as he can be, but my issue is not with him- it just seems to be a consistent refrain on these boards that he hasn't been backed properly and is therefore blameless. If he has a mid-table budget and we are in the relegation zone then I think we can put to be the idea that he has done the best job he can so far this season. He has ballsed it right up to an incredible degree. On that evidence could you blame the board for being wary of giving him more in January? I agree he has made mistakes this season. One of two of the signings have been poor to say the least and some of the selections on the pitch have been questionable too. So yes, he has underperformed this season. But this is the first time we can ever say that about him and it's fair to say that he has overperformed every season until this one. Should we cut him loose on the back of that? Not for me. As for backing him in January, I don't understand enough about the FFP rules to know if they can or not. Personally, I'm not one of those wanting huge investment in the playing side, whoever is manager, unless the club can afford it, which we clearly can't. He will have to make do with the 'one out, one in' policy I suspect, however unless he unearths a diamond we are likely to go down. I guess it's then a question of how big a 'disaster'is that to this club at the moment.
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