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Dec 14, 2018 11:43:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 11:43:53 GMT
Is this the past that Brexiteers dream of? How Britain stole $45 trillion from India flip.it/WbvzlX |
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Dec 14, 2018 12:16:19 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 14, 2018 12:16:19 GMT
Is this the past that Brexiteers dream of? How Britain stole $45 trillion from India flip.it/WbvzlXWhat's that got to do with anything.?? |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 14, 2018 12:31:55 GMT
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue what this has got to do with Brexit, and Brexiteers in particular?
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 14, 2018 12:56:43 GMT
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue what this has got to do with Brexit, and Brexiteers in particular? I think Oldie is trying to index all those who voted leave yearn for the days of Empire and we long to return to those times, you could argue it the other way round as it's the Commission that have been building an Empire and we're all just "subjects "!! |
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Dec 14, 2018 12:57:19 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 14, 2018 12:57:19 GMT
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue what this has got to do with Brexit, and Brexiteers in particular? I think Oldie is trying to index all those who voted leave yearn for the days of Empire and we long to return to those times, you could argue it the other way round as it's the Commission that have been building an Empire and we're all just "subjects "!! Infer not index |
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Post by jaggas on Dec 14, 2018 14:25:48 GMT
Is this the past that Brexiteers dream of? How Britain stole $45 trillion from India flip.it/WbvzlXWe have probably given them more than that back in foreign aid...😉 |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 14, 2018 14:57:29 GMT
Is this the past that Brexiteers dream of? How Britain stole $45 trillion from India flip.it/WbvzlXWe have probably given them more than that back in foreign aid...😉 I've never figured out how that works, India have their own space agency, yet we give them £Millions in aid. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 15:03:06 GMT
Is this the past that Brexiteers dream of? How Britain stole $45 trillion from India flip.it/WbvzlXTut tut Oldie. Just because you have been pulled up on your subconscious racism towards Indians on another thread. Now you are trying to balance the moral book by posting something that shows empathy towards Indians. I love this bit... "If India had been able to invest its own tax revenues and foreign exchange earnings in development - as Japan did - there's no telling how history might have turned out differently. India could very well have become an economic powerhouse. Centuries of poverty and suffering could have been prevented." It forgets that India was just a mish mash of States that spent most of their time fight with each other. India wasn't really a country. |
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Dec 14, 2018 21:11:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:11:16 GMT
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue what this has got to do with Brexit, and Brexiteers in particular? I think Oldie is trying to index all those who voted leave yearn for the days of Empire and we long to return to those times, you could argue it the other way round as it's the Commission that have been building an Empire and we're all just "subjects "!! Partly true. I am pointing out that, if true, our past is not the brilliant world leading past the Brexiteers would claim we can return to. True? Or False? |
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Dec 14, 2018 21:35:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:35:00 GMT
I think Oldie is trying to index all those who voted leave yearn for the days of Empire and we long to return to those times, you could argue it the other way round as it's the Commission that have been building an Empire and we're all just "subjects "!! Infer not index I forgot to say. Good post. I don't agree with your conclusion, the past is based upon factual events, the future is just conjecture. But, looking and reading the entirely vacuous, unquantified oponions, (You might say innumerate) can you blame me? |
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Dec 14, 2018 21:35:57 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 14, 2018 21:35:57 GMT
I think Oldie is trying to index all those who voted leave yearn for the days of Empire and we long to return to those times, you could argue it the other way round as it's the Commission that have been building an Empire and we're all just "subjects "!! Partly true. I am pointing out that, if true, our past is not the brilliant world leading past the Brexiteers would claim we can return to. True? Or False? False,I haven't heard anyone yearning for the days of Empire, when I cast my vote it was for a vision of a Country that would be free to engage with the World when and how we wanted to not when dictated to by a bunch of unelected folk in Brussels. Indeed I see it as an opportunity to be more outward looking not to be insular the majority of high growth economy's are not in Europe if anyone has a siege mentality it is the Europeans!! |
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Dec 14, 2018 21:43:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:43:51 GMT
Partly true. I am pointing out that, if true, our past is not the brilliant world leading past the Brexiteers would claim we can return to. True? Or False? False,I haven't heard anyone yearning for the days of Empire, when I cast my vote it was for a vision of a Country that would be free to engage with the World when and how we wanted to not when dictated to by a bunch of unelected folk in Brussels. Indeed I see it as an opportunity to be more outward looking not to be insular the majority of high growth economy's are not in Europe if anyone has a siege mentality it is the Europeans!! Ok. I would want that as well. So, taking Europe out of the equation, what are we left with. China...good luck with that as they do not accept an international rule based trading arrangement, other than lip service. Russia...really? America..of course...but Trump? India? Really? Capital controls and ownership? Albeit changing, I accept. Where are we going after that..? |
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Dec 14, 2018 21:49:48 GMT
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 14, 2018 21:49:48 GMT
False,I haven't heard anyone yearning for the days of Empire, when I cast my vote it was for a vision of a Country that would be free to engage with the World when and how we wanted to not when dictated to by a bunch of unelected folk in Brussels. Indeed I see it as an opportunity to be more outward looking not to be insular the majority of high growth economy's are not in Europe if anyone has a siege mentality it is the Europeans!! Ok. I would want that as well. So, taking Europe out of the equation, what are we left with. China...good luck with that as they do not accept an international rule based trading arrangement, other than lip service. Russia...really? America..of course...but Trump? India? Really? Capital controls and ownership? Albeit changing, I accept. Where are we going after that..? I think it's relatively easy to pick Countries that may have barriers but nothing is forever and I'm not excluding trade with the EU just on a different basis,the bottom line is that if it is mutually beneficial then logic suggests that trade etc will happen,even Trump won't be there for long going by current events. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:49:54 GMT
It's the EU that are looking at the 'Empire options'..... We need a European Empire
"The European Union should become “a peaceful empire” in order to stand up to China and the US, Le Maire argued. And although thanks to their wartime history, some Germans may find his talk of empire unattractive, Le Maire explains that, “I am using this phrase because, in tomorrow’s world, it’s going to be all about power ... technological power, economic, financial, monetary, cultural power – all will be decisive. Europe cannot be shy any longer about using its power.”" I think we are best off out of that nonsense. |
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Dec 14, 2018 21:57:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 21:57:48 GMT
Ok. I would want that as well. So, taking Europe out of the equation, what are we left with. China...good luck with that as they do not accept an international rule based trading arrangement, other than lip service. Russia...really? America..of course...but Trump? India? Really? Capital controls and ownership? Albeit changing, I accept. Where are we going after that..? I think it's relatively easy to pick Countries that may have barriers but nothing is forever and I'm not excluding trade with the EU just on a different basis,the bottom line is that if it is mutually beneficial then logic suggests that trade etc will happen,even Trump won't be there for long going by current events. I agree. But my points are not aimed at rational people who say what you say (regardless of the fact we may or may not disagree). I argue for reality, and whether in fact our trade treaties are better than we have, or not. |
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Dec 15, 2018 16:53:19 GMT
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Post by jaggas on Dec 15, 2018 16:53:19 GMT
The treaties we have through the EU with other countries will still be applicable with the advantage they can be tweaked mutually to everyones benefit easily as the treaties will not require the consent of 27 other nations with differing economies and industries.
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Dec 15, 2018 17:02:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 17:02:32 GMT
The treaties we have through the EU with other countries will still be applicable with the advantage they can be tweaked mutually to everyones benefit easily as the treaties will not require the consent of 27 other nations with differing economies and industries. Conjecture, ignorance and a complete avoidance of fact. |
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Dec 15, 2018 17:09:20 GMT
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 15, 2018 17:09:20 GMT
The treaties we have through the EU with other countries will still be applicable with the advantage they can be tweaked mutually to everyones benefit easily as the treaties will not require the consent of 27 other nations with differing economies and industries. Conjecture, ignorance and a complete avoidance of fact. Was how remain tried selling the referendum. Hence why they lost.  |
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Dec 15, 2018 20:44:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 20:44:17 GMT
Conjecture, ignorance and a complete avoidance of fact. Was how remain tried selling the referendum. Hence why they lost. You think? |
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Dec 16, 2018 8:23:37 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 16, 2018 8:23:37 GMT
We have probably given them more than that back in foreign aid...😉 I've never figured out how that works, India have their own space agency, yet we give them £Millions in aid. I'm not one for telling other countries how to spend their money but that is an absolute water take. We should suspend payments until they stop wasting money on that sh**e. |
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