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Post by kylegas on Dec 26, 2018 19:04:18 GMT
He’s only made the obvious changes that every rovers fan would have made.. he talks a good one and I like him but I do not want him as manager personally
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 19:30:31 GMT
I have absolutely no idea why but there seems to be a feeling among some that to have backed DC to the end means that you must be disappointed we have won a couple of games now he's gone. Ridiculous. We're all Gasheads and all want to win every game we play. Darrell Clarke was possibly our greatest ever manager and we should be grateful for everything he did here. But even those such as I who backed him to the end and feel that the decision was premature, have to accept the fact that he has gone. We all have to move on. Hopefully the club will get the next appointment as right as the last one. Coughlan is certainly making a case for it and I wouldn't be upset to see him get the gig. That said, Ben Garner is still an intriguing option. What's intriguing about gambling on a coach with no previous managerial or Rovers experience, compared to GC who's managed to remotivate DC's players, when it really looked like we were heading back to Div 2 next season. Unless there's some quality candidates we don't know about then GC looks the best option at present. So far he's managed to bring out the best in Rodman, Reilly, Jakubiak and Rodman, something DC failed to do. I'd have no problem with Coughlan being given the job. He's grabbed the opportunity with both hands and has done very well. That said, two wins doesn't mean he is the only option. This is in no way a criticism of Coughlan, but the timing of THD's availability has been fortunate for him, I think. A naturally left footed player, particularly one of his quality, has given us a balance that DC wasn't able to select. That's also allowed Rodman to be selected as a natural balance to that down the right. But as I say, that's.no criticism of Coughlan who has done extremely well and been impressive. I'd be happy with him or Garner. Actually, I'd probably take anyone but Cotterill, who in my opinion would be a terrible appointment.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 26, 2018 19:32:52 GMT
What's intriguing about gambling on a coach with no previous managerial or Rovers experience, compared to GC who's managed to remotivate DC's players, when it really looked like we were heading back to Div 2 next season. Unless there's some quality candidates we don't know about then GC looks the best option at present. So far he's managed to bring out the best in Rodman, Reilly, Jakubiak and Rodman, something DC failed to do. I'd have no problem with Coughlan being given the job. He's grabbed the opportunity with both hands and has done very well. That said, two wins doesn't mean he is the only option. This is in no way a criticism of Coughlan, but the timing of THD's availability has been fortunate for him, I think. A naturally left footed player, particularly one of his quality, has given us a balance that DC wasn't able to select. That's also allowed Rodman to be selected as a natural balance to that down the right. But as I say, that's.no criticism of Coughlan who has done extremely well and been impressive. I'd be happy with him or Garner. Actually, I'd probably take anyone but Cotterill, who in my opinion would be a terrible appointment. GC is reuniting the fans better than I could imagine anybody else doing right now. Cotterill would be a disastrous appointment as he'd likely have the opposite effect.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 26, 2018 19:56:18 GMT
What's intriguing about gambling on a coach with no previous managerial or Rovers experience, compared to GC who's managed to remotivate DC's players, when it really looked like we were heading back to Div 2 next season. Unless there's some quality candidates we don't know about then GC looks the best option at present. So far he's managed to bring out the best in Rodman, Reilly, Jakubiak and Rodman, something DC failed to do. I'd have no problem with Coughlan being given the job. He's grabbed the opportunity with both hands and has done very well. That said, two wins doesn't mean he is the only option. This is in no way a criticism of Coughlan, but the timing of THD's availability has been fortunate for him, I think. A naturally left footed player, particularly one of his quality, has given us a balance that DC wasn't able to select. That's also allowed Rodman to be selected as a natural balance to that down the right. But as I say, that's.no criticism of Coughlan who has done extremely well and been impressive. I'd be happy with him or Garner. Actually, I'd probably take anyone but Cotterill, who in my opinion would be a terrible appointment. you're right in a way about this but he DC had Matthews to select at wide left midfield all season, but didn't pick him there once ! Instead he put the very ineffective Bennett there and Matthews central or on the right. He also was carrying the cross of the expensive Nichols and Payne on his back - blurring his selection of players - in-form or out-of-form. Well done the boys today - our first back to back league wins since ................. ??
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Dec 26, 2018 20:05:38 GMT
I like what he said in his post-match interview today. ‘If anyone wants the job, they’ll have to fight me for it!’
The smart move for the board is simply not to rush into anything just yet. See where we are in a couple of games. I hope GC continues the good run and gets the job but it’s impossible to predict.
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Post by althepirate on Dec 26, 2018 20:12:32 GMT
I would be worried if GC got the job without an experienced DOF to help him. PS. The greatest managers for me were Bert Tann(50's) and Gerry Francis (to get us into the now Championship at Twerton Park was an amazing achievement)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 20:13:10 GMT
I'd have no problem with Coughlan being given the job. He's grabbed the opportunity with both hands and has done very well. That said, two wins doesn't mean he is the only option. This is in no way a criticism of Coughlan, but the timing of THD's availability has been fortunate for him, I think. A naturally left footed player, particularly one of his quality, has given us a balance that DC wasn't able to select. That's also allowed Rodman to be selected as a natural balance to that down the right. But as I say, that's.no criticism of Coughlan who has done extremely well and been impressive. I'd be happy with him or Garner. Actually, I'd probably take anyone but Cotterill, who in my opinion would be a terrible appointment. you're right in a way about this but he DC had Matthews to select at wide left midfield all season, but didn't pick him there once ! Instead he put the very ineffective Bennett there and Matthews central or on the right. He also was carrying the cross of the expensive Nichols and Payne on his back - blurring his selection of players - in-form or out-of-form. Well done the boys today - our first back to back league wins since ................. ?? I think Bennett's problem this season is that he's not had a Lee Brown to provide the width and create space for him to go inside. As it is, he's run into traffic so often. I think he's had a poor season, although do wonder if he'd scored half of the chances he's put againt the woodwork whether I'd be saying differently! Fine margins. I though the same as you with Matthews and it may be rhat DC missed a trick there. However, when he came on against Fleetwood on the left, he cut inside every single time! (To be fair though, that was only a 20 minute cameo). I'm still not sure what his best position is, although he clearly has talent. Either way, hopefully the emergence of THD, who looks to be a really good player, will resolve the issue.
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Post by badengas on Dec 26, 2018 20:20:29 GMT
He’s only made the obvious changes that every rovers fan would have made.. he talks a good one and I like him but I do not want him as manager personally So he's doing what you want and saying things you like, sounds like at least Mr Right Now if not Mr Right.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 26, 2018 20:46:59 GMT
you're right in a way about this but he DC had Matthews to select at wide left midfield all season, but didn't pick him there once ! Instead he put the very ineffective Bennett there and Matthews central or on the right. He also was carrying the cross of the expensive Nichols and Payne on his back - blurring his selection of players - in-form or out-of-form. Well done the boys today - our first back to back league wins since ................. ?? I think Bennett's problem this season is that he's not had a Lee Brown to provide the width and create space for him to go inside. As it is, he's run into traffic so often. I think he's had a poor season, although do wonder if he'd scored half of the chances he's put againt the woodwork whether I'd be saying differently! Fine margins. I though the same as you with Matthews and it may be rhat DC missed a trick there. However, when he came on against Fleetwood on the left, he cut inside every single time! (To be fair though, that was only a 20 minute cameo). I'm still not sure what his best position is, although he clearly has talent. Either way, hopefully the emergence of THD, who looks to be a really good player, will resolve the issue. Bennett's final ball let's him down massively.
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Post by kylegas on Dec 26, 2018 20:49:22 GMT
He’s only made the obvious changes that every rovers fan would have made.. he talks a good one and I like him but I do not want him as manager personally So he's doing what you want and saying things you like, sounds like at least Mr Right Now if not Mr Right. Absolutely, but I’m not a believer in ‘right now’ being the answer, as there’s a lot more to the job than just making a few obvious changes, I like the guy but when it comes to matters of the transfer market and the ‘big decisions’ I’d rather have an experienced man in charge. Just my opinion
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 26, 2018 21:19:31 GMT
If we win on Saturday and get a draw or win against burton they have to give him til the end of the season... You can see why the players are liking him as he seems very honest and straight forward.. That’s 3 games we’ve played very well in and 2 results we wouldn’t have got with dc I’ve already lost the fear of looking at the team sheet at 2pm now as I know he’s gonna pick his winning team and that’s all we wanted. It was sickening seeing no consistent team selections and formations every week and being beat then hear the same bolllocks talked saying we’ll just train harder.. That was never the answer...a high percentage of a successful team is being man managed very well, I think not giving GC a crack at it til the end of the season would be harsh, he shows a lot of fight and passion and already knows everyone so stupid not too, But I wouldn’t be surprised the board wasting money on paying off a club to take a chance on someone else
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 26, 2018 21:21:55 GMT
So he's doing what you want and saying things you like, sounds like at least Mr Right Now if not Mr Right. Absolutely, but I’m not a believer in ‘right now’ being the answer, as there’s a lot more to the job than just making a few obvious changes, I like the guy but when it comes to matters of the transfer market and the ‘big decisions’ I’d rather have an experienced man in charge. Just my opinion To be fair using experienced men got us in to a pretty bad mess last time. You can cycle the long list of out of work managers on the football manager merrygoround and if you're lucky you might find one that does ok. You'll never find a gem though. Experience is good to a point but as one of my old lecturers used to say, you can have 30 years experience or you can have 1 years experience repeated 30 times. DC will be one of those gems that learns and goes on to continue to be successful but he didn't come with a lot of what most refer to as experience. Cotteril on the other hand is experienced but hes experienced at being mediocre at best. As long as we are winning why change anything? If we stop winning I'd much rather be up for a gamble on an up and coming manager than trying to find mediocrity in a vat of sh** and failure.
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 26, 2018 21:22:53 GMT
What's intriguing about gambling on a coach with no previous managerial or Rovers experience, compared to GC who's managed to remotivate DC's players, when it really looked like we were heading back to Div 2 next season. Unless there's some quality candidates we don't know about then GC looks the best option at present. So far he's managed to bring out the best in Rodman, Reilly, Jakubiak and Rodman, something DC failed to do. I'd have no problem with Coughlan being given the job. He's grabbed the opportunity with both hands and has done very well. That said, two wins doesn't mean he is the only option. This is in no way a criticism of Coughlan, but the timing of THD's availability has been fortunate for him, I think. A naturally left footed player, particularly one of his quality, has given us a balance that DC wasn't able to select. That's also allowed Rodman to be selected as a natural balance to that down the right. But as I say, that's.no criticism of Coughlan who has done extremely well and been impressive. I'd be happy with him or Garner. Actually, I'd probably take anyone but Cotterill, who in my opinion would be a terrible appointment. I think THD would be played at left back if dc was still in charge and Bennett on the left and rodman still on the bench... Plus he’s completely changed their mentality and he’s not happy with how much we give it away which seemed to just go unpunished before hand
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 26, 2018 21:24:18 GMT
2 games and 15 minutes is all I need after the shower of sh** we had to put up with for the last year! Give that man the job! I’ve got my rovers back!!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙 Very fair opinion. But credit has to go to the board in that case as someone must have had not just the vision to do or try this but the authority. Because DC out and GC temp in was not a mistake.
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Post by Russgas on Dec 26, 2018 21:30:04 GMT
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Post by axegas on Dec 26, 2018 21:31:22 GMT
It feels like the players are happy to play under Coughlan as they seem to be playing with a lot more freedom and expression than they did under DC. Ultimately, we need to get a manager that the players are happy playing for and if we have found that with Coughlan then I would look no further. He's been a revelation since he first came in and is making a pretty good case for himself as long as the results keep going in our favour.
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 26, 2018 21:46:47 GMT
2 games and 15 minutes is all I need after the shower of sh** we had to put up with for the last year! Give that man the job! I’ve got my rovers back!!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙 Very fair opinion. But credit has to go to the board in that case as someone must have had not just the vision to do or try this but the authority. Because DC out and GC temp in was not a mistake. I’d say GC was at least on the succession plan, who we have to thank for that is anyone’s guess. But my sense was DC had lost ability to see his own weaknesses and got too frustrated to see a way out, but what has been built is fundamentally sound. Regardless of whether it’s GC or a new hire, we need to be careful to not rip it up and start again. Let’s use DC’s legacy as a start point and continue to build. GC seems like a good custodian of that for now
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Post by kylegas on Dec 26, 2018 22:06:24 GMT
Absolutely, but I’m not a believer in ‘right now’ being the answer, as there’s a lot more to the job than just making a few obvious changes, I like the guy but when it comes to matters of the transfer market and the ‘big decisions’ I’d rather have an experienced man in charge. Just my opinion To be fair using experienced men got us in to a pretty bad mess last time. You can cycle the long list of out of work managers on the football manager merrygoround and if you're lucky you might find one that does ok. You'll never find a gem though. Experience is good to a point but as one of my old lecturers used to say, you can have 30 years experience or you can have 1 years experience repeated 30 times. DC will be one of those gems that learns and goes on to continue to be successful but he didn't come with a lot of what most refer to as experience. Cotteril on the other hand is experienced but hes experienced at being mediocre at best. As long as we are winning why change anything? If we stop winning I'd much rather be up for a gamble on an up and coming manager than trying to find mediocrity in a vat of sh** and failure. As I said it’s just my opinion so we just agree to disagree, it’s not like our opinions count for anything anyway haha
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Post by socrates on Dec 26, 2018 22:11:15 GMT
He’s only made the obvious changes that every rovers fan would have made.. he talks a good one and I like him but I do not want him as manager personally Not sure every Rovers fan would have made those changes to be honest mate. Most on here had their preferred line ups for Sunderland with bennet on the left and Mathews on the right. Easy to say these things in hindsight.
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Post by socrates on Dec 26, 2018 22:17:43 GMT
A new manager could come in like the look of bennet and Mathews ask them where they’re most comfortable and we’d be playing narrow easy to defend again sh**e.
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